question about Doyle plan and what the rotation looks like next season

[ScotchMIrish]

College baseball isn't even low minors level.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... yle-001lia

He clearly has a big arm with the K numbers but 4.13 ERA in college is not the dominant number you would see for a pitcher who is close to MLB level. At minimum I'd say he is 2 or 3 years away if he stays healthy unless he was getting poor coaching at several schools and the Cardinals can do a quick fix.

[craviduce]

College baseball isn't even low minors level.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... yle-001lia

He clearly has a big arm with the K numbers but 4.13 ERA in college is not the dominant number you would see for a pitcher who is close to MLB level. At minimum I'd say he is 2 or 3 years away if he stays healthy unless he was getting poor coaching at several schools and the Cardinals can do a quick fix.

he was literally two different pitchers between Ole Miss and Tennessee. They either fixed something or changed something last fall during scrims/practice. What you got this season was a result of that work. This lends credence to how much of a genius the Vols Coach is...including his staff. The legend grows

Yes...you can total up the 3 college years at 3 different institutions, but you should seek out the context.

[ScotchMIrish]

College baseball isn't even low minors level.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... yle-001lia

He clearly has a big arm with the K numbers but 4.13 ERA in college is not the dominant number you would see for a pitcher who is close to MLB level. At minimum I'd say he is 2 or 3 years away if he stays healthy unless he was getting poor coaching at several schools and the Cardinals can do a quick fix.

he was literally two different pitchers between Ole Miss and Tennessee. They either fixed something or changed something last fall during scrims/practice. What you got this season was a result of that work. This lends credence to how much of a genius the Vols Coach is...including his staff. The legend grows

Yes...you can total up the 3 college years at 3 different institutions, but you should seek out the context.

3.20 ERA in Tennessee. Other bb/9 k/9 and h/9 were great. Perhaps some goofy stadiums like the one in Como which sits atop a large hill are a factor in the era. I've seen popups leave the ballpark at Taylor Stadium when the wind is blowing.

I'd still be surprised if he is up right away. The lowest level pro teams would beat any college team.

[craviduce]

College baseball isn't even low minors level.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... yle-001lia

He clearly has a big arm with the K numbers but 4.13 ERA in college is not the dominant number you would see for a pitcher who is close to MLB level. At minimum I'd say he is 2 or 3 years away if he stays healthy unless he was getting poor coaching at several schools and the Cardinals can do a quick fix.

he was literally two different pitchers between Ole Miss and Tennessee. They either fixed something or changed something last fall during scrims/practice. What you got this season was a result of that work. This lends credence to how much of a genius the Vols Coach is...including his staff. The legend grows

Yes...you can total up the 3 college years at 3 different institutions, but you should seek out the context.

3.20 ERA in Tennessee. Other bb/9 k/9 and h/9 were great. Perhaps some goofy stadiums like the one in Como which sits atop a large hill are a factor in the era. I've seen popups leave the ballpark at Taylor Stadium when the wind is blowing.

I'd still be surprised if he is up right away. The lowest level pro teams would beat any college team.

SEC and ACC ball is the equivalent of AA.

He starts High A or AA...depending on what the Cards believe he needs to work on. Right now and this Winter (his throwing program build up to February reporting in Jupiter), are the key to where he starts.

If he starts out in Low A Palm Beach...then I've lost all faith in Bloom.

[WaltsSuccessor]

We know BDWJr is not going to pay up to sign a Cease or Valdez. It's also clear the #1 best way to upgrade this roster and chances to compete is to bring in a FOTR starter.

The Twins basically blew up their whole team at the deadline. I'd be shocked if Joe Ryan isn't made available this offseason. Under control for 2026 and 2027. Next year he'll be entering his age 30 season.

Going to cost a bunch, but we have the prospects and players to make it happen. Even without including JJ. I'd look really hard at that.

Plan B - Trade to bring back Sandy depending on how motivated the Marlins are to move him. Pitchers usually take a full season post TJS to return to form. We can assume the whole contract to reduce the trade package.

[ScotchMIrish]

College baseball isn't even low minors level.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/regi ... yle-001lia

He clearly has a big arm with the K numbers but 4.13 ERA in college is not the dominant number you would see for a pitcher who is close to MLB level. At minimum I'd say he is 2 or 3 years away if he stays healthy unless he was getting poor coaching at several schools and the Cardinals can do a quick fix.

he was literally two different pitchers between Ole Miss and Tennessee. They either fixed something or changed something last fall during scrims/practice. What you got this season was a result of that work. This lends credence to how much of a genius the Vols Coach is...including his staff. The legend grows

Yes...you can total up the 3 college years at 3 different institutions, but you should seek out the context.

3.20 ERA in Tennessee. Other bb/9 k/9 and h/9 were great. Perhaps some goofy stadiums like the one in Como which sits atop a large hill are a factor in the era. I've seen popups leave the ballpark at Taylor Stadium when the wind is blowing.

I'd still be surprised if he is up right away. The lowest level pro teams would beat any college team.

SEC and ACC ball is the equivalent of AA.

Not even close.

750 players at AA. SEC had 100 players drafted. About 6 or 7 players per school. Most will never get drafted. Of those who do get drafted most will start at low level and perhaps move up - perhaps not. Perhaps enough good players in the 16 school SEC to make up 1 AA roster. Maybe 2. Zero chance the average SEC school is AA level.