Would DeWitt sell the Cardinals to Stan Kroenke?

[thetank2]

The St. Louis Cardinals will NEVER, EVER be moved.

On this I can even give it a 100% chance of NEVER HAPPENING.

Never say never. Always avoid always. Remember that.

NEVER, EVER ever will the Cardinals leave St. Louis nor would MLB allow one of it's crown jewel franchise to leave what has been dubbed "The best baseball city in America" (although Mo has done his best to e f f that up lately).

With dumb[ash] Rob Manfred as commissioner, anything is possible. History and tradition mean nothing to that weasel. Its all about $$$.

If it’s all about the $$$, and I agree with you that it is, then the value of a city like Nashville is in expansion, not relocation. And if they deem expansion not an option, they aren’t moving from St Louis before they relocate the Florida teams.

Manfred has been extremely clear, and on multiple occasions, that MLB does not want the Rays to move out of the Tampa Bay region. The probable new ownership group has also stated they strongly prefer to stay in the area. They are highly likely to "relocate" all of 25 miles from downtown St. Pete to Ybor City (Tampa) or somewhere close to Ybor.

Guess what. I doubt the taxpayers come up with the money for a new stadium in Tampa area.

[rockondlouie]

The St. Louis Cardinals will NEVER, EVER be moved.

On this I can even give it a 100% chance of NEVER HAPPENING.

Never say never. Always avoid always. Remember that.

NEVER, EVER ever will the Cardinals leave St. Louis nor would MLB allow one of it's crown jewel franchise to leave what has been dubbed "The best baseball city in America" (although Mo has done his best to e f f that up lately).

With dumb[ash] Rob Manfred as commissioner, anything is possible. History and tradition mean nothing to that weasel. Its all about $$$.

Nope, 100% never happening.

But I agree Manford is a total a z z wipe.

[JuanAgosto]

The St. Louis Cardinals will NEVER, EVER be moved.

On this I can even give it a 100% chance of NEVER HAPPENING.

Never say never. Always avoid always. Remember that.

NEVER, EVER ever will the Cardinals leave St. Louis nor would MLB allow one of it's crown jewel franchise to leave what has been dubbed "The best baseball city in America" (although Mo has done his best to e f f that up lately).

With dumb[ash] Rob Manfred as commissioner, anything is possible. History and tradition mean nothing to that weasel. Its all about $$$.

Nope, 100% never happening.

But I agree Manford is a total a z z wipe.

Hope you are right.

[rockondlouie]

The St. Louis Cardinals will NEVER, EVER be moved.

On this I can even give it a 100% chance of NEVER HAPPENING.

Never say never. Always avoid always. Remember that.

NEVER, EVER ever will the Cardinals leave St. Louis nor would MLB allow one of it's crown jewel franchise to leave what has been dubbed "The best baseball city in America" (although Mo has done his best to e f f that up lately).

With dumb[ash] Rob Manfred as commissioner, anything is possible. History and tradition mean nothing to that weasel. Its all about $$$.

Nope, 100% never happening.

But I agree Manford is a total a z z wipe.

Hope you are right.

On this I'd bet the house

MLB will never, ever allow the Cardinals to leave St. Louis.

We've seen darker times than these (re: 1970's).

With Mo gone, hopefully Oli too, we're entering a new era of Cardinals baseball and actually have some hope!

[RunSup]

I’ve actually have been thinking about this
Stanley Enos Kroenke could redeem himself in his home state…….Rams were never really a Stl team, it was as transplant from LA. Anyone can admit the Dome was a sterile chit hole to watch a game…..so he returns and saves the beloved STL. Cardinals Baseball Team and perhaps the City of STL
Most likely fantasy, but he controls the largest Sports Team conglomerate….so

Oh Lord. I can't. I can't. I can't. No. No. No. No. No! Please not Kroenke.

Aiiiiiieeeeee!

[Hazelwood72]

I’ve actually have been thinking about this
Stanley Enos Kroenke could redeem himself in his home state…….Rams were never really a Stl team, it was as transplant from LA. Anyone can admit the Dome was a sterile chit hole to watch a game…..so he returns and saves the beloved STL. Cardinals Baseball Team and perhaps the City of STL
Most likely fantasy, but he controls the largest Sports Team conglomerate….so

Stan has lot of irons in the fire related to sports. He is planning and NHL/NBA arena in San Diego. He is planning a new giant Rams practice facility in LA.

If Stan wants to help STL, he should work towards getting an NFL franchise in STL either through expansion or relocation. STL could focus the remainder of the Rams/NFL money toward MAJOR improvements to the dome facility as a place for the team to play. That would redeem him in STL. Let the DeWitts continue to manage the Cardinals and get through this current down period.

Don't think STL has a shot at an NFL team again. I think any expansion goes to a foreign market.

The only viable foreign market is Toronto. Huge metro area (just behind Chicago) and wealthy. An NFL franchise in Toronto would be a money printing press.

[RunSup]

I’ve actually have been thinking about this
Stanley Enos Kroenke could redeem himself in his home state…….Rams were never really a Stl team, it was as transplant from LA. Anyone can admit the Dome was a sterile chit hole to watch a game…..so he returns and saves the beloved STL. Cardinals Baseball Team and perhaps the City of STL
Most likely fantasy, but he controls the largest Sports Team conglomerate….so

Oh Lord. I can't. I can't. I can't. No. No. No. No. No! Please not Kroenke.

Aiiiiiieeeeee!

Well.
Could Arsenal come to St. Louis and play a match every so often?
Can we get a World Cup set of games here?

I am past Denial and Anger. Now deep into Bargaining. That was surprisingly quick.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

That would be a disaster. Stanley Enos Kroenke is a rat.

[PadsFS07]

Dropping attendance in a city with population decline. If wealthy buyers wanted to purchase the team contingent on a move to a new market? You bet Manfred and the greedy owners would be interested.

St. Louis metro area last year saw its largest increase in population in 15 years.

St. Louis metro has 600,000 more people than Nashville.

Thank you. It drives me crazy when people reference population and don't consider metro area. Nashville is a consolidated city with an area 5x larger than St. Louis. Metro areas are around the same size though and more relevant to the discussion.

Charlotte and Orlando are actually the two largest metro areas without an MLB team, both the same size as St Louis. Next up is San Antonio, Austin, Portland, and Sacramento in the 2.5M people range. Then you hit the smaller market MLB teams like Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cleveland, Milwaukee and now Las Vegas. This is where Nashville falls in, along with Indianapolis, Columbus, and Jacksonville.

[MrPostman01]

Bill Gates is the right choice. He will put competents in charge. The city can let him refurbish the Arch and call it Bill Gatesway Arch.

[woofy25]

The St. Louis Cardinals will NEVER, EVER be moved.

On this I can even give it a 100% chance of NEVER HAPPENING.

Never say never. Always avoid always. Remember that.

NEVER, EVER ever will the Cardinals leave St. Louis nor would MLB allow one of it's crown jewel franchise to leave what has been dubbed "The best baseball city in America" (although Mo has done his best to e f f that up lately).

With dumb[ash] Rob Manfred as commissioner, anything is possible. History and tradition mean nothing to that weasel. Its all about $$$.

If it’s all about the $$$, and I agree with you that it is, then the value of a city like Nashville is in expansion, not relocation. And if they deem expansion not an option, they aren’t moving from St Louis before they relocate the Florida teams.

Manfred has been extremely clear, and on multiple occasions, that MLB does not want the Rays to move out of the Tampa Bay region. The probable new ownership group has also stated they strongly prefer to stay in the area. They are highly likely to "relocate" all of 25 miles from downtown St. Pete to Ybor City (Tampa) or somewhere close to Ybor.

Guess what. I doubt the taxpayers come up with the money for a new stadium in Tampa area.

Guess what. St. Pete and Pinellas County already did come up with the money, $650M. The rays backed out after the two hurricanes hit last year, which was a completely [nonsense] reason, but they did. and both the city and county said the deal would still be considered with the new ownership group of which while the main guy is from Jacksonville, many of the minority owners are from the Tampa Bay region. Tampa and Hillsborough County have some issues bc they’re going to need substantial upgrades soon to the Bucs stadium, and I’m sure the Glazers won’t be paying for it all themselves. I do expect that Tampa will figure it out with the new ownership group. I’d also expect the new owners would have to feel confident about a stadium before they close on the purchase.

[RunSup]

Bill Gates is the right choice. He will put competents in charge. The city can let him refurbish the Arch and call it Bill Gatesway Arch.

[RunSup]

Can we start to consider transitioning ownership to a publicly held non-profit organization. Like the Green Bay Packers.

The Dewitt's might have to gift some ownership capital to seed this.

There are a bit more than 5M shares of Packers stock. The last public offering was for $300 a share. If you could raise that much finances it comes to $1.5B

https://www.packers.com/community/shareholders

We can complain about ownership and the FO or just become the owners ourselves. Then we can just complain about each other, which we already do pretty well on CT.

Let's do it!

[YNWA2016]

Kroenke? no way not ever happening.

I would even prefer to sell to Saudi's over him.. we need oil money so the Cards can dominate again

I have wanted the Cards ownership to sell up for over 5 years now.. if they ever do I will be pretty mad if they ever sell to Kroenke

Can we get a World Cup set of games here?

not possible.. where at? we don't even have a proper world cup stadium and or pitch in St. Louis. you can't play World cup matches at City park. too small of a venue.

and turning busch stadium into a pitch is not good enough either as that is utter dog chit and dangerous for the players. so NO not even possible.

[Shadowseeker]

If the right owner came along and a certain prez put in his two cents worth,I do believe the cards would stand a good chance of leaving.It would not be a given but there is a chance.

[Shadowseeker]

If the right owner came along and a certain prez put in his two cents worth,I do believe the cards would stand a good chance of leaving.It would not be a given but there is a chance.I would think if the DeWitts did sell they would have something that the new owner could not move the team atleast for a number of years.