In the middle of a heat wave? Duh.cardsrmyteam wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 11:49 am It would be interesting to get a picture of the stadium from Mo's first day on the job (hired on 10/3/2007, so it would be opening day 2008) versus what it will look like 9/28.
I'm pretty sure it's a stark difference.
20,510
Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Cards Talk Moderators
Re: 20,510
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 168
- Joined: 27 May 2024 23:12 pm
Re: 20,510
20,510 tickets sold means there were less attendees at the game. This has a negative effect on concessions and sale of Cardinals merchandise.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 4114
- Joined: 05 May 2020 14:17 pm
Re: 20,510
2007 was a losing season and I bet the average attendance was double that of 2025. lolcardsrmyteam wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 11:49 am It would be interesting to get a picture of the stadium from Mo's first day on the job (hired on 10/3/2007, so it would be opening day 2008) versus what it will look like 9/28.
I'm pretty sure it's a stark difference.
It's a chitshow to be sure.
Re: 20,510
No doubt...I share season tickets in Section 148.and there has been a steady drop in attendance in the last few years...but this year it has been obvious that fans are (upset) at Mo-ran's incompetence...fans will show up for an exciting team, with stars, regardless of the weather.cardsrmyteam wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 11:49 am It would be interesting to get a picture of the stadium from Mo's first day on the job (hired on 10/3/2007, so it would be opening day 2008) versus what it will look like 9/28.
I'm pretty sure it's a stark difference.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 1451
- Joined: 28 May 2024 18:12 pm
Re: 20,510
Heat waves don’t keep people away when the team is worth watching.Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 12:25 pmIn the middle of a heat wave? Duh.cardsrmyteam wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 11:49 am It would be interesting to get a picture of the stadium from Mo's first day on the job (hired on 10/3/2007, so it would be opening day 2008) versus what it will look like 9/28.
I'm pretty sure it's a stark difference.
Re: 20,510
Really? Is that a fact? You don’t think a heat index of 108 has anything to do with it?desertrat23 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:19 pmHeat waves don’t keep people away when the team is worth watching.Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 12:25 pmIn the middle of a heat wave? Duh.cardsrmyteam wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 11:49 am It would be interesting to get a picture of the stadium from Mo's first day on the job (hired on 10/3/2007, so it would be opening day 2008) versus what it will look like 9/28.
I'm pretty sure it's a stark difference.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 1291
- Joined: 23 May 2024 12:58 pm
Re: 20,510
I was at a game at Busch 3 about 15 years ago when the temperature was 100*. Brutal.George Zipp wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 07:09 am Not making excuses because the product sucks. But who in their right mind is going to a game in this Saudi Arabian heat? Add in Monday night,Marlins and the previously mentioned suck and I’m surprised there were 57 people there.
35,000 people thought so, too.
Capiche?
Re: 20,510
I went to a concert last night in Portland with a Cards hat. The beer man saw that and he was talking to his other beer man about seeing the crowd in St. Lou and he couldn’t believe he was watching a Cardinal game, the the fan base is pisssed. I chimed in of course and said something about the GM. He mentioned Mo by name. Surprised he would know so much, but of course I totally agreed with him. Pretty funny, if not sad.desertrat23 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2025 23:16 pm Second-lowest non-COVID crowd in Busch III history.
Bill, Bill, Mo… at least you saved some money, eh?
Re: 20,510
Was it ‘66 All-star game……cleats melting on ASTROTURF……but its never been hot in STL before….Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:51 pmReally? Is that a fact? You don’t think a heat index of 108 has anything to do with it?desertrat23 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:19 pmHeat waves don’t keep people away when the team is worth watching.Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 12:25 pmIn the middle of a heat wave? Duh.cardsrmyteam wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 11:49 am It would be interesting to get a picture of the stadium from Mo's first day on the job (hired on 10/3/2007, so it would be opening day 2008) versus what it will look like 9/28.
I'm pretty sure it's a stark difference.


Re: 20,510
Of course it's been hot. And it hurt attendance. It's unhealthy, especially for older people, to sit in that heat.Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:24 pmWas it ‘66 All-star game……cleats melting on ASTROTURF……but its never been hot in STL before….Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:51 pmReally? Is that a fact? You don’t think a heat index of 108 has anything to do with it?desertrat23 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:19 pmHeat waves don’t keep people away when the team is worth watching.Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 12:25 pmIn the middle of a heat wave? Duh.cardsrmyteam wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 11:49 am It would be interesting to get a picture of the stadium from Mo's first day on the job (hired on 10/3/2007, so it would be opening day 2008) versus what it will look like 9/28.
I'm pretty sure it's a stark difference.![]()
![]()
Re: 20,510
How about 81 bobblehead nights to pack em in? 

Re: 20,510
Casey Stengel: “The park holds the heat well.”Goldfan wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 17:24 pmWas it ‘66 All-star game……cleats melting on ASTROTURF……but its never been hot in STL before….Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:51 pmReally? Is that a fact? You don’t think a heat index of 108 has anything to do with it?desertrat23 wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 16:19 pmHeat waves don’t keep people away when the team is worth watching.Cranny wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 12:25 pmIn the middle of a heat wave? Duh.cardsrmyteam wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 11:49 am It would be interesting to get a picture of the stadium from Mo's first day on the job (hired on 10/3/2007, so it would be opening day 2008) versus what it will look like 9/28.
I'm pretty sure it's a stark difference.![]()
![]()
Re: 20,510
As you well know , the number announced is always PAID attendance . Some no shows come from fans who purchased their tix earlier this season and aren't thrilled with the play so they 'ate' the ticket , some are vacationers who come to St.Louis and planned to go to a Cardinal game during their stay ( with 108 index type stuff they said No Way I will stay in AC somewhere for my entertainment ) . Sitting outdoors in sweltering heat isn't everybody's cup of tea especially 100+ stuff. This isn't normal St. Louis July weather.
-
- Forum User
- Posts: 467
- Joined: 29 May 2024 12:46 pm
Re: 20,510
I hear ya. Now go make a tee time in Vegas or Dubai this time of year about noon and see how that goesRed Bird Classic wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 10:42 amIn Saudi Arabia it's a dry heat, not like the St. Louis swelter box.George Zipp wrote: ↑29 Jul 2025 07:09 am Not making excuses because the product sucks. But who in their right mind is going to a game in this Saudi Arabian heat? Add in Monday night,Marlins and the previously mentioned suck and I’m surprised there were 57 people there.![]()

-
- Forum User
- Posts: 11676
- Joined: 23 May 2024 12:41 pm
Re: 20,510
Announced paid has been that way forever.ramfandan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2025 06:24 amAs you well know , the number announced is always PAID attendance . Some no shows come from fans who purchased their tix earlier this season and aren't thrilled with the play so they 'ate' the ticket , some are vacationers who come to St.Louis and planned to go to a Cardinal game during their stay ( with 108 index type stuff they said No Way I will stay in AC somewhere for my entertainment ) . Sitting outdoors in sweltering heat isn't everybody's cup of tea especially 100+ stuff. This isn't normal St. Louis July weather.
St. Louis is always miserable in July/August and before last year there would be 35-40,000 there.