Renewed interest for Arenado could shake up Thursday deadline

[ramfandan]

1. I do not doubt that Mo has re-addressed the NTCs with Arenado & Gray.

2. Time will tell if either has changed their minds.

3. Goold should be investigating this with sources other than Mo.

Since Mo addressed the NTC with both players, it seems only logical that the reports that Cardinals are 'listening to offers' on both players indicated that probably BOTH have indicated to Mo they are open to be traded.
If Sonny Gray had said absolutely NOT , then no reason for Mo to be 'listening to offers' this week. Now it doesn't mean that Gray or Nado would just go to any team, but I would guess that Sonny Gray has told Mo that he would be open to a change of scenery for next year. Sure Mo explained to Sonny that they will be trading expiring contracts this year and that they have no plans to sign any big free agent types this offseason so the team will b e even younger in 2026 as the ' rebuild ' is ON. Sonny is now at that point in his career where he has just a couple years left and may want to have fun on a winnng contending type team now.

In a logical situation, you are absolutely right. But this is Johnny bow ties Mozeliak we are talking about. He's probably doing this (donkey) backwards. Knowing that putz, he's probably wasting time engineering trades before talking to either player.

There was an article today on this very topic on mlbtraderumors.com. They said the Gray didn't want to waive his NTC, but Mo was doing the footwork to find out what teams wanted him so that he could at least tell him what the situation was.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/07/ ... lause.html

That makes sense. Plus just because Gray (and/or Arenado ) could nix any trade this week does not necessarily mean that either or both would accept a trade this December after the season. Both players would A. know which players the team traded away and any new guys coming in for 2026 B. the players also have more time to sit down in offseason with wife/family to take a long range look what they wish for their final couple years . A NO at deadline could be a YES in December when Bloom is at the Winter Meetings.

[peterman'srealitytour]

There is no point in trading Arenado or Gray.

We aren't in a payroll crunch. We won't get any sort of return back prospect-wise. They aren't going to re-invested the saved money in new free agents. I mean, with Gray and Arenado, our 2026 payroll is $70M below where we were in 2024. Also, there really isn't much of a logjam that trading them would open up at this time.

Trading Arenado for someone not on the 40 man roster absolutely relieves a logjam. Could play Donovan, Saggese or Gorman at 3b and another at 2B.

[rockondlouie]

All it takes is

1- NADO waiving

2- BDWJr swalling hard and eating $20M

Return will be minimal but opens 3rd base for 2026.

Mo would throw in Helsley to save money.

And DeWallet would give him a bonus!

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

There is no point in trading Arenado or Gray.

We aren't in a payroll crunch. We won't get any sort of return back prospect-wise. They aren't going to re-invested the saved money in new free agents. I mean, with Gray and Arenado, our 2026 payroll is $70M below where we were in 2024. Also, there really isn't much of a logjam that trading them would open up at this time.

I completely agree with this post. They should be looking to groom the roster trading duplicative players for ones that fill gaps that are needed and or minor league talent that can have an impact down the road.

[boulanger]

There is no point in trading Arenado or Gray.

We aren't in a payroll crunch. We won't get any sort of return back prospect-wise. They aren't going to re-invested the saved money in new free agents. I mean, with Gray and Arenado, our 2026 payroll is $70M below where we were in 2024. Also, there really isn't much of a logjam that trading them would open up at this time.

Trading Arenado for someone not on the 40 man roster absolutely relieves a logjam. Could play Donovan, Saggese or Gorman at 3b and another at 2B.

the problem is that none of those guys have shown themselves to be good 3rd basemen

[peterman'srealitytour]

There is no point in trading Arenado or Gray.

We aren't in a payroll crunch. We won't get any sort of return back prospect-wise. They aren't going to re-invested the saved money in new free agents. I mean, with Gray and Arenado, our 2026 payroll is $70M below where we were in 2024. Also, there really isn't much of a logjam that trading them would open up at this time.

Trading Arenado for someone not on the 40 man roster absolutely relieves a logjam. Could play Donovan, Saggese or Gorman at 3b and another at 2B.

the problem is that none of those guys have shown themselves to be good 3rd basemen

If you’re looking for someone that can play defense like Arenado, then yes all of those guys fall short.

Unless something has changed since the offseason, one of those guys was pegged to play 3B this year. I mean Mozeliak spent all of the offseason trying to trade Arenado. They planned to play insert one them as a regular.

[PadsFS07]

Trading Arenado for someone not on the 40 man roster absolutely relieves a logjam. Could play Donovan, Saggese or Gorman at 3b and another at 2B.

I can kind of see it with Arenado, but like the other poster said, none of them have proven to deserve more time than they've already gotten in 2025. Donovan can play OF. Gorman can play at DH (also he is injured anyway). Wetherholt needs some more time at AAA. Saggese isn't someone I'd be trying to move mountains to get into the lineup.

You'd also likely be eating salary to move Arenado. Are those guys' playing time worth the $10-15M in sunk cost you'd be paying....when you have a capable 3bman on the roster as is?

Strongly disagree with Arenado. Moving him perhaps keep the Cards from trading away Donovan or Winn while helping to open up the infield for Wetherholt, and even if you have to send $20M with NA for a team to take him, it still saves the Cards payroll over the next 2 years.

Trading Donovan or Winn would also mean they'd actually bring back a top prospect or two. Since Wetherholt is probably most valuable as a SS and Donovan at 2B, I would rather they optimize our best players than try to fit them in all over the place.