Walker's improvement

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Re: Walker's improvement

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82birds wrote: 28 Jul 2025 10:59 am they are saying he/they figured something out at AA.

does that tell you/me that the coaching is better at Springfield than at Memphis?
We’ve heard this over and over again with Walker.
Until he starts driving the ball and showing power, he hasn’t figured anything out.
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 28 Jul 2025 11:20 am
82birds wrote: 28 Jul 2025 10:59 am they are saying he/they figured something out at AA.

does that tell you/me that the coaching is better at Springfield than at Memphis?
No. This to shall pass
He's got to do it over the next two months before I bite too.
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Re: Walker's improvement

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I posted a video recently of Ted Williams saying when he was in the minors he asked Lefty O'Doul for advice and Lefty told him "don't ever let anybody change your swing".

Perhaps the change is go back to swinging the way you used to.
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Just because the player talent level at AAA is better than AA that doesn’t necessarily mean a coach at AAA has to be better than coach at AA .

A batting coach at AA could be a better fit for Walker than AAA
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:56 pm I posted a video recently of Ted Williams saying when he was in the minors he asked Lefty O'Doul for advice and Lefty told him "don't ever let anybody change your swing".

Perhaps the change is go back to swinging the way you used to.
Along those lines I was wondering about them messing with his swing?
To me the obsession with hitting 30+ HR’s is out of whack.
Let the kid flat out hit and take the HR’s as they come!
I hope they don’t eff with Wetherholt.
Let the kid hit 15/20 HR’s but be a great gap to gap doubles hitter!
How many more games would we win if someone ripped a double instead of popping up?????
I have higher hopes for Walker than Gorman.
Nothing against Gorman but I don’t think he’s the sharpest tool in the shed???
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:56 pm I posted a video recently of Ted Williams saying when he was in the minors he asked Lefty O'Doul for advice and Lefty told him "don't ever let anybody change your swing".

Perhaps the change is go back to swinging the way you used to.
Would ol' Lefty had said the same thing if he has talking to Jordan?
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renostl wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:30 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:56 pm I posted a video recently of Ted Williams saying when he was in the minors he asked Lefty O'Doul for advice and Lefty told him "don't ever let anybody change your swing".

Perhaps the change is go back to swinging the way you used to.
Would ol' Lefty had said the same thing if he has talking to Jordan?
No. Lefty would have said, "JW, You can't hit anything with that stupid stance."
Ted had a beautiful swing. But he, like all great big-bodied hitters, had knees bent and crouched. (See below.)
Note - He turned out to be a bad manager (273-364) and hitting coach. Some of the greats were just that - natural-born hitters.


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82birds wrote: 28 Jul 2025 10:59 am they are saying he/they figured something out at AA.

does that tell you/me that the coaching is better at Springfield than at Memphis?
Maybe the coaching is better at Springfield than St. Louis.
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Re: Walker's improvement

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renostl wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:30 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:56 pm I posted a video recently of Ted Williams saying when he was in the minors he asked Lefty O'Doul for advice and Lefty told him "don't ever let anybody change your swing".

Perhaps the change is go back to swinging the way you used to.
Would ol' Lefty had said the same thing if he has talking to Jordan?
We'll never know but Willie McGee at Shannon's once said something similar. When he first arrived in St Louis a coach came to him and wanted to change his swing. Dave Ricketts intervened and told the coach to leave him alone. Willie was thankful for that. Pete Rose in a video said the same thing. Never change your swing.

It appears the Cards sent Walker to the minors in his rookie season to do exactly that because they wanted him to hit more home runs.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:56 pm I posted a video recently of Ted Williams saying when he was in the minors he asked Lefty O'Doul for advice and Lefty told him "don't ever let anybody change your swing".

Perhaps the change is go back to swinging the way you used to.
:roll: Jesus, [fork]ing anecdotes about Ted Williams.

Yeah, Just Worthless is Ted freaking Williams
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Walker is more Mendoza than Williams
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:49 pm
renostl wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:30 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:56 pm I posted a video recently of Ted Williams saying when he was in the minors he asked Lefty O'Doul for advice and Lefty told him "don't ever let anybody change your swing".

Perhaps the change is go back to swinging the way you used to.
Would ol' Lefty had said the same thing if he has talking to Jordan?
We'll never know but Willie McGee at Shannon's once said something similar. When he first arrived in St Louis a coach came to him and wanted to change his swing. Dave Ricketts intervened and told the coach to leave him alone. Willie was thankful for that. Pete Rose in a video said the same thing. Never change your swing.

It appears the Cards sent Walker to the minors in his rookie season to do exactly that because they wanted him to hit more home runs.
Mostly a tongue in cheek comment from myself.
Obviously, I am just a toad with a keyboard

I have always thought that Walker needed to adjust his balance and his approach. Not necessarily
his swing. Those two things are what led to a "bad" swing. He is far more balanced in his latest edition
again opinion. IF he stays there he is hindered to chase especially low and away where those bad swings
occur most often. Makes the plate smaller. JW had a 23" plate. Approach, pitch recognition hopefully comes
easier when a pitcher has to throw strikes.

My assumptions of the work have always been along the lines. Probably because of my very own bias. Players
can outperform flaws. Totally agree. Cleaning up flaws early, vs late or never each are individual. But JW should
benefit from making pitchers come to him and being balanced when they do.
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I am not ready to draw any conclusions about AA hitting coaching vs AAA or MLB. I do believe the old saying that when the student is ready, the teacher appears. Painting with a broad brush around snapshots like this usually make a mess.

GO JORDAN!!!
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Re: Walker's improvement

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renostl wrote: 28 Jul 2025 14:30 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:49 pm
renostl wrote: 28 Jul 2025 13:30 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 28 Jul 2025 12:56 pm I posted a video recently of Ted Williams saying when he was in the minors he asked Lefty O'Doul for advice and Lefty told him "don't ever let anybody change your swing".

Perhaps the change is go back to swinging the way you used to.
Would ol' Lefty had said the same thing if he has talking to Jordan?
We'll never know but Willie McGee at Shannon's once said something similar. When he first arrived in St Louis a coach came to him and wanted to change his swing. Dave Ricketts intervened and told the coach to leave him alone. Willie was thankful for that. Pete Rose in a video said the same thing. Never change your swing.

It appears the Cards sent Walker to the minors in his rookie season to do exactly that because they wanted him to hit more home runs.
Mostly a tongue in cheek comment from myself.
Obviously, I am just a toad with a keyboard

I have always thought that Walker needed to adjust his balance and his approach. Not necessarily
his swing. Those two things are what led to a "bad" swing. He is far more balanced in his latest edition
again opinion. IF he stays there he is hindered to chase especially low and away where those bad swings
occur most often. Makes the plate smaller. JW had a 23" plate. Approach, pitch recognition hopefully comes
easier when a pitcher has to throw strikes.

My assumptions of the work have always been along the lines. Probably because of my very own bias. Players
can outperform flaws. Totally agree. Cleaning up flaws early, vs late or never each are individual. But JW should
benefit from making pitchers come to him and being balanced when they do.
Pete Rose - never change your swing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB5HLxmMT00
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Half of Walker’s hits (6 of 12) since returning from the IL have been doubles. It is the most doubles he has had in an 11 game stretch in his MLB career so far. That is a very positive sign.

He’s hitting .308/.372/.462 over 11 games/43 PAs since returning.
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Re: Walker's improvement

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When he smacked that double off the LF gap last night, his left foot was straight toward the pitcher. This is the biggest reason he has started to hit better. Previously he was stepping toward third base when he swung, AKA stepping in the bucket.
He has also closed his stance somewhat.
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