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Re: Fedde DFAd

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AnExParrot wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:16 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:31 am
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:24 am I screamed from the top of my lungs to trade this fool's gold in the offseason. There was a huge back and forth. Mo does what Mo does best, now we will get nothing for him. Mo sucking at being GM proven once again.
What did you think they would get for him in a trade? :roll:
You see brock here knows more than the other 29 GMs/POBOs in MLB - those guys had no idea, not even an inkling that Fedde was what brock saw, so we would have got a straight up HAUL of prospects.

:wink:
The fact is that had they even received one mid-level prospect, that would have been a better return than now.

Mozeliak is a completely incompetent buffoon.

Only the willfully blind think otherwise.
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hugeCardfan wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:41 pm
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:24 am I screamed from the top of my lungs to trade this fool's gold in the offseason. There was a huge back and forth. Mo does what Mo does best, now we will get nothing for him. Mo sucking at being GM proven once again.
I know dude. I insisted they trade him for Gilbert. They ignored the hell out of us.
You’re right.

Your hero Mozeliak handled it perfectly!
:roll:
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Re: Fedde DFAd

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Red Bird Classic wrote: 23 Jul 2025 13:56 pm
Jobu's Rum wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:05 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:55 am I remember well how many here were thrilled to trade Tommy for Fedde.

Now everyone is excited to be rid of him. :roll:

I remember when you fwere the main person that wanted Fedde
Even though it's not true, it's still funny.

I never wanted Fedde. I'm still an Edman fan although his recent injuries have really limited his contributions.
I remember you stating you did not like the trade.

Jobu has you confused with somebody else.
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 14:19 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 23 Jul 2025 14:18 pm
gghhamr wrote: 23 Jul 2025 14:13 pm If the club still had Edmond, world he be dfa’d?
His name is Edman. And the answer is no.
Not making a ridiculous 70 million he wouldn’t
What does his current contract have to do with him still being on the Cardinals?

After the 2024 season he signed a 2-year deal with the Birds.

So he would be here with 1 year left (2026) after which he would become a FA.

And no he would not have been DFA’d.
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Re: Fedde DFAd

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sdaltons wrote: 23 Jul 2025 14:56 pm
woofy25 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 14:32 pm
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 14:26 pm
renostl wrote: 23 Jul 2025 13:51 pm
RichieRichSTL wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:26 pm
AnExParrot wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:16 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:31 am
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:24 am I screamed from the top of my lungs to trade this fool's gold in the offseason. There was a huge back and forth. Mo does what Mo does best, now we will get nothing for him. Mo sucking at being GM proven once again.
What did you think they would get for him in a trade? :roll:
You see brock here knows more than the other 29 GMs/POBOs in MLB - those guys had no idea, not even an inkling that Fedde was what brock saw, so we would have got a straight up HAUL of prospects.

:wink:
Nobody is saying that. He was an inexpensive risk. If he pitches close to what he had done, he's a steal. At worst, he is a limited risk. He flames out and you have only 3M left and no years left. Thats enough to toss a mid level team prospect and maybe a lottery ticket at.
That's most of the reality.

The Cards are extremely thin with SP. There's McGreevy, Matz, then a couple others and it's not like Libs, Pallante, or Miles
are some absolute knowns quantities. They have also been extremely fortunate to this point with health. Extremely.

Fedde, even with the hindsight POV, brought developmental time to the organization for those pitchers. He looks less valuable
now because he wasn't needed so much when no injuries occurred. He was probably going to be gone in a week anyway.
The miss with Fedde is whatever prospect he'd bring back a maybe something vs nothing.
But this was a wasted season from the start. They wanted to see what the young guys could do. The GM needs to sell guys ay their highest value which was this offseason for Fedde. Fedde wasn't really in their plans for the future. It doesn't really matter who takes his innings..McGreevy probably could be starting all year, Matz could take his place, or just sign a Gibson type off the scrap heap for nothing because we had no intention of putting a winning team out there. Just cut payroll and let the youngsters sink or swim. Now not only did we get nothing whatsoever for him now we are paying him to do nothing but scratch his balls.
Yes, that was the October plan, only to go into the season with, I believe, the oldest pitching staff in baseball. Then, they decide to give real runway to Victor Scott, b/c I guess ST performance is more important that a garbage minor league season. That move then prevented the Cardinals from giving one of the main guys they were referring to in October for runway playing time, in Gorman. Comically stupid roster management on multiple levels. Also, just let Herrera catch. Pages is no good. We all know that. We also know that Herrera is not the long-term Catcher, but in a season of runway, that would have been a good choice in order to free up playing time for guys who actually might be part of their future. I could go on.
Continue to be baffled by the Herrera thing. Makes no sense. Or if they are just going to bail on him at C, why not stick him in LF?

Guess it makes sense for the org that suddenly decided Contreras would be a 1B and Walker would be a RF.

All reeks of a front office with no real plan.
There hasn’t been a competent plan in place since at least the 2015 deadline.
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Re: Fedde DFAd

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Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 08:59 am
AnExParrot wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:16 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:31 am
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:24 am I screamed from the top of my lungs to trade this fool's gold in the offseason. There was a huge back and forth. Mo does what Mo does best, now we will get nothing for him. Mo sucking at being GM proven once again.
What did you think they would get for him in a trade? :roll:
You see brock here knows more than the other 29 GMs/POBOs in MLB - those guys had no idea, not even an inkling that Fedde was what brock saw, so we would have got a straight up HAUL of prospects.

:wink:
The fact is that had they even received one mid-level prospect, that would have been a better return than now.

Mozeliak is a completely incompetent buffoon.

Only the willfully blind think otherwise.
Again, it wasn't just brock here who thought Fedde was fool's gold - plenty of GMs across the league obviously thought the same. You think Mo wouldn't have traded him, while trying desperately trying to lower payroll, if a mid-tier prospect was offered?
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Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:10 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 14:19 pm
Red Bird Classic wrote: 23 Jul 2025 14:18 pm
gghhamr wrote: 23 Jul 2025 14:13 pm If the club still had Edmond, world he be dfa’d?
His name is Edman. And the answer is no.
Not making a ridiculous 70 million he wouldn’t
What does his current contract have to do with him still being on the Cardinals?

After the 2024 season he signed a 2-year deal with the Birds.

So he would be here with 1 year left (2026) after which he would become a FA.

And no he would not have been DFA’d.
Sorry I was mistaken.

Edman signed his 2-year deal at end of 2023, so if he hadn’t been traded, he would be here and become a FA at end of this year.
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AnExParrot wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:20 am
Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 08:59 am
AnExParrot wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:16 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:31 am
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:24 am I screamed from the top of my lungs to trade this fool's gold in the offseason. There was a huge back and forth. Mo does what Mo does best, now we will get nothing for him. Mo sucking at being GM proven once again.
What did you think they would get for him in a trade? :roll:
You see brock here knows more than the other 29 GMs/POBOs in MLB - those guys had no idea, not even an inkling that Fedde was what brock saw, so we would have got a straight up HAUL of prospects.

:wink:
The fact is that had they even received one mid-level prospect, that would have been a better return than now.

Mozeliak is a completely incompetent buffoon.

Only the willfully blind think otherwise.
Again, it wasn't just brock here who thought Fedde was fool's gold - plenty of GMs across the league obviously thought the same. You think Mo wouldn't have traded him, while trying desperately trying to lower payroll, if a mid-tier prospect was offered?
No I don’t.

I think Mozeliak got cute, thought Fedde was worth more than the prospect or prospects he was offered and thought he could get more at this year’s deadline.

And as usual Mozeliak was wrong.

The best day for this organization for at least 10 years will be the day Mozeliak leaves.
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I think Mo was convinced he would get a second lightning in a bottle situation just like Mikolas for a short time after coming back from Asia.

Because that's how he likes to acquire players. Find the guys no one else is really looking at and have them hit so he looks super clever.

But it's more like a blind squirrel finding a nut situation.
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sdaltons wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:46 am I think Mo was convinced he would get a second lightning in a bottle situation just like Mikolas for a short time after coming back from Asia.

Because that's how he likes to acquire players. Find the guys no one else is really looking at and have them hit so he looks super clever.

But it's more like a blind squirrel finding a nut situation.
Agree.
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Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 10:00 am
sdaltons wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:46 am I think Mo was convinced he would get a second lightning in a bottle situation just like Mikolas for a short time after coming back from Asia.

Because that's how he likes to acquire players. Find the guys no one else is really looking at and have them hit so he looks super clever.

But it's more like a blind squirrel finding a nut situation.
Agree.
Agree to agree.
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Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:33 am
AnExParrot wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:20 am
Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 08:59 am
AnExParrot wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:16 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:31 am
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:24 am I screamed from the top of my lungs to trade this fool's gold in the offseason. There was a huge back and forth. Mo does what Mo does best, now we will get nothing for him. Mo sucking at being GM proven once again.
What did you think they would get for him in a trade? :roll:
You see brock here knows more than the other 29 GMs/POBOs in MLB - those guys had no idea, not even an inkling that Fedde was what brock saw, so we would have got a straight up HAUL of prospects.

:wink:
The fact is that had they even received one mid-level prospect, that would have been a better return than now.

Mozeliak is a completely incompetent buffoon.

Only the willfully blind think otherwise.
Again, it wasn't just brock here who thought Fedde was fool's gold - plenty of GMs across the league obviously thought the same. You think Mo wouldn't have traded him, while trying desperately trying to lower payroll, if a mid-tier prospect was offered?
No I don’t.

I think Mozeliak got cute, thought Fedde was worth more than the prospect or prospects he was offered and thought he could get more at this year’s deadline.

And as usual Mozeliak was wrong.

The best day for this organization for at least 10 years will be the day Mozeliak leaves.
Mel thought the same thing said keeping Fedde was easy obvious correct lol
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 10:31 am
Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:33 am
AnExParrot wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:20 am
Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 08:59 am
AnExParrot wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:16 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:31 am
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:24 am I screamed from the top of my lungs to trade this fool's gold in the offseason. There was a huge back and forth. Mo does what Mo does best, now we will get nothing for him. Mo sucking at being GM proven once again.
What did you think they would get for him in a trade? :roll:
You see brock here knows more than the other 29 GMs/POBOs in MLB - those guys had no idea, not even an inkling that Fedde was what brock saw, so we would have got a straight up HAUL of prospects.

:wink:
The fact is that had they even received one mid-level prospect, that would have been a better return than now.

Mozeliak is a completely incompetent buffoon.

Only the willfully blind think otherwise.
Again, it wasn't just brock here who thought Fedde was fool's gold - plenty of GMs across the league obviously thought the same. You think Mo wouldn't have traded him, while trying desperately trying to lower payroll, if a mid-tier prospect was offered?
No I don’t.

I think Mozeliak got cute, thought Fedde was worth more than the prospect or prospects he was offered and thought he could get more at this year’s deadline.

And as usual Mozeliak was wrong.

The best day for this organization for at least 10 years will be the day Mozeliak leaves.
Mel thought the same thing said keeping Fedde was easy obvious correct lol
lol any causal fan knew the only intelligent play was to flip Hells and Fedde. Heck 90% of this forum wa saying the same thing. Ha
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Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:01 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:41 pm
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:24 am I screamed from the top of my lungs to trade this fool's gold in the offseason. There was a huge back and forth. Mo does what Mo does best, now we will get nothing for him. Mo sucking at being GM proven once again.
I know dude. I insisted they trade him for Gilbert. They ignored the hell out of us.
You’re right.

Your hero Mozeliak handled it perfectly!
:roll:
Oh, you have me confused with someone who cares what you have to say.
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hugeCardfan wrote: 24 Jul 2025 11:14 am
Bomber1 wrote: 24 Jul 2025 09:01 am
hugeCardfan wrote: 23 Jul 2025 12:41 pm
brock118 wrote: 23 Jul 2025 11:24 am I screamed from the top of my lungs to trade this fool's gold in the offseason. There was a huge back and forth. Mo does what Mo does best, now we will get nothing for him. Mo sucking at being GM proven once again.
I know dude. I insisted they trade him for Gilbert. They ignored the hell out of us.
You’re right.

Your hero Mozeliak handled it perfectly!
:roll:
Oh, you have me confused with someone who cares what you have to say.
That’s cute, thanks.

But it doesn’t change the fact that your idol effed up the situation with Fedde.
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