This Weeks Jordan Kyrou rumor

[theograce]

Yes.....he loves to hammer "the epic loss".

And since you’re following me, what would you call it

[SRV1990]

He is a Berube type player

Is Kyrou a Monty type player?

He had his best year under Monty, so maybe. We need another year's data point. We moved Bolduc. I don't think we should move Kyrou unless we are getting a bonafide RHD which they are first going to try to envision within Mailloux. Even if Mailloux can't be the player the Blues need they aren't going to conclude that right away so I just don't see him being moved.

I just hate seeing that atoi in big games. If it happens again next year we will know the real answer

Kyrou is a complementary weapon who could be on a winner if 5-6 other guys drive the bus, but he is not a core piece on a winner IMO. 21-22 and 22-23 Buch was the superior player but 24-25 Kyrou was better, I think the pressure is on Kyrou and Buchnevich going forward to produce prime caliber years because Holloway, Snuggy, Neighbours and Carbs are up and coming gamers who play more Blues style hockey. Kyrou doesn't strike me as someone who'd turn down a trade to a reasonable situation but Buch does.

Buchy had 25 points in his last 22 games. He was a PPG in playoffs. He's going to be just fine. He's been one of the best players for the Blues since they acquired him and had a slump to start the season when he was playing a different position and then got slightly banged up. Frustrating start for the guy but he finished the way I expect the next 3-4 years to go.

I recall throughout 22-23 my partner overhearing Blues goals and so often it was Buchnevich scoring a key goal. "Buchnevich! The only one keeping the [shirt] show together!" was her mantra. He was a solid asset and the trade was seen as a steal. It still is because the cost of adding him was so small, but the year after his performance dipped a little bit, noticeably, and last year he was not at the level of two seasons prior either. If we get the player of the past two seasons going forward, that player is ok but I don't know about a driver of a Cup caliber team. He's in his prime and his brand new prime contract starts this season so I hope his production validates the spot he holds in the core of a hopefully improving team. I'm waiting and seeing.

everyone can reserve the right to expect more out of a player, but I'll leave you with this to put Buchy in perspective. He has 2 playoff appearances for the Blues, and he is a PPG in both of them. During the Regular season for the 4 seasons we have had him he produces points at .90%. Meaning he is good for 9 points in 10 games during the regular season. In his "down years" he's at .75 .78. And in those years he's still a + player performer going +3 and +10.

He is a 2 way forward who plays hard minutes for the Blues averaging over 19 a game. Only Thomas averages more minutes per game as a forward. the next closest are 2 minutes behind him. Buchy is a really really good player right now. Elite? No, but really good. Probably dangling around the Top 50 forward group somewhere in the 40-60 range. And he's seen himself in the top 30 before.

Excellent breakdown showing his consistency over entire seasons. Very good player indeed!

[seattleblue]

When people talk up the benefits Buchnevich brings, I get it.

Nevertheless, I am not wrong about his performance relative to his own performance, it has dropped a little. All I am saying is he is fully in his hockey prime for as long as he can hold onto it and his big contract is supposed to reflect production. I see some warning signs, and in context of five other Blues property wingers (Kyrou, Holloway, Neighbours, Snuggy and Carbonneau) who are all younger and mostly cheaper it's something to pay attention to.

[Harry York 37]

When people talk up the benefits Buchnevich brings, I get it.

Nevertheless, I am not wrong about his performance relative to his own performance, it has dropped a little. All I am saying is he is fully in his hockey prime for as long as he can hold onto it and his big contract is supposed to reflect production. I see some warning signs, and in context of five other Blues property wingers (Kyrou, Holloway, Neighbours, Snuggy and Carbonneau) who are all younger and mostly cheaper it's something to pay attention to.

I give him a good deal of slack the last half of 23/24 and the first half of last year when he took one for the sake of the team and became a second line center.
Buch on the wing is worth the money.

[theograce]

Buch on the wing is worth the money.

Goals in 2 of 27 playoff games.

Is that good?

[theograce]

Buch on the wing is worth the money.

Goals in 2 of 27 playoff games.

Is that good?

Nathan Walker has scored in 2 of 12 playoff games

[callitwhatyouwant]

When people talk up the benefits Buchnevich brings, I get it.

Nevertheless, I am not wrong about his performance relative to his own performance, it has dropped a little. All I am saying is he is fully in his hockey prime for as long as he can hold onto it and his big contract is supposed to reflect production. I see some warning signs, and in context of five other Blues property wingers (Kyrou, Holloway, Neighbours, Snuggy and Carbonneau) who are all younger and mostly cheaper it's something to pay attention to.

something to pay attention to if it becomes a trend, not something to fret over now. And Buchy plays a much different role than the one they expect out of Kyrou and Snuggy. Those guys are out there to produce points and are supposed to be elite at it. Buchy goes out against the other teams best players. Neighbours is also cut from that cloth. Holloway showed off his skill in this regard too last year. I don't know if there was a better 2 way forward last year for the Blues at hounding the puck than Hollywood. He opened some eyes.

Buchy is really good, Holloway if he can repeat last year is ELITE, and Kyrou is very good. Let's hope we can hold Snuggy and Carbs into the same conversation. Then we will be really cooking.

[MiamiLaw]

He is a Berube type player

Is Kyrou a Monty type player?

He had his best year under Monty, so maybe. We need another year's data point. We moved Bolduc. I don't think we should move Kyrou unless we are getting a bonafide RHD which they are first going to try to envision within Mailloux. Even if Mailloux can't be the player the Blues need they aren't going to conclude that right away so I just don't see him being moved.

Yea now that they traded Bolduc for LM, it is hard for me to imagine them trading Kyrou unless someone blows them away with an offer that is an almost guaranteed win (which ain't happening). They would be losing too much offense then and creating a hole to plug another. I don't love Kyrou but now that the NTC has kicked in, I see no reason to go searching to move him.

[DawgDad]

He is a Berube type player

Is Kyrou a Monty type player?

He had his best year under Monty, so maybe. We need another year's data point. We moved Bolduc. I don't think we should move Kyrou unless we are getting a bonafide RHD which they are first going to try to envision within Mailloux. Even if Mailloux can't be the player the Blues need they aren't going to conclude that right away so I just don't see him being moved.

Yea now that they traded Bolduc for LM, it is hard for me to imagine them trading Kyrou unless someone blows them away with an offer that is an almost guaranteed win (which ain't happening). They would be losing too much offense then and creating a hole to plug another. I don't love Kyrou but now that the NTC has kicked in, I see no reason to go searching to move him.

All should keep in mind the Blues took a big step forward last season and now the Owners, GMs (plural?), Coaches, Players, and Fans have realistic expectations they are competing not for 2027 and 2028 but to make some noise in 25-26. The team is ahead of many of their prospects in this regard. Kyrou's production and expected term of productivity cannot just be traded away for futures without p***ing off a lot of people, he's a huge part of what is expected to get them back into the playoffs. It generally benefits the current players when their team makes the playoffs, many will leverage the success and accomplishments.

I don't expect the Blues to go "all-in" but I do expect them to do what they believe is reasonable and prudent to make the playoffs. If the team is trending north of 100 points everyone will be happy except some green prospect who is told to wait his turn, we're not selling off vets to give you a spot. The Dvorsky situation last season.

[dhsux]

He is a Berube type player

Is Kyrou a Monty type player?

He had his best year under Monty, so maybe. We need another year's data point. We moved Bolduc. I don't think we should move Kyrou unless we are getting a bonafide RHD which they are first going to try to envision within Mailloux. Even if Mailloux can't be the player the Blues need they aren't going to conclude that right away so I just don't see him being moved.

Yea now that they traded Bolduc for LM, it is hard for me to imagine them trading Kyrou unless someone blows them away with an offer that is an almost guaranteed win (which ain't happening). They would be losing too much offense then and creating a hole to plug another. I don't love Kyrou but now that the NTC has kicked in, I see no reason to go searching to move him.

All should keep in mind the Blues took a big step forward last season and now the Owners, GMs (plural?), Coaches, Players, and Fans have realistic expectations they are competing not for 2027 and 2028 but to make some noise in 25-26. The team is ahead of many of their prospects in this regard. Kyrou's production and expected term of productivity cannot just be traded away for futures without p***ing off a lot of people, he's a huge part of what is expected to get them back into the playoffs. It generally benefits the current players when their team makes the playoffs, many will leverage the success and accomplishments.

I don't expect the Blues to go "all-in" but I do expect them to do what they believe is reasonable and prudent to make the playoffs. If the team is trending north of 100 points everyone will be happy except some green prospect who is told to wait his turn, we're not selling off vets to give you a spot. The Dvorsky situation last season.

I tend to agree with you about their earnest plan to compete for the coming season, all the while looking forward.

In my mind, this would have to mean they expect Mailloux to be on the ice and contributing to achieve their goal.

And I like that.

[Russdv14]

Some person or organization called the Bruins Insider, posted again as late as July 22 that the Bruins want Kyrou because they need offense. I can’t think of one player from them that I would want other than the big guy., Pasternak, and they won’t part with him

This is the third time that that “insider” has proposed that Kyrou was going to Boston. It gets old to read trade rumors.

[Nublues69]

Some person or organization called the Bruins Insider, posted again as late as July 22 that the Bruins want Kyrou because they need offense. I can’t think of one player from them that I would want other than the big guy., Pasternak, and they won’t part with him

This is the third time that that “insider” has proposed that Kyrou was going to Boston. It gets old to read trade rumors.

yes it does, funny how none of the blues insiders have said anything other than what if about the rumors alreadymade.

Kyrou is here for the long haul. One of many analyst from MTL stated that Army asked for Hage and reinbacher and they wouldnt trade those.

[ManitobaBlues]

Some person or organization called the Bruins Insider, posted again as late as July 22 that the Bruins want Kyrou because they need offense. I can’t think of one player from them that I would want other than the big guy., Pasternak, and they won’t part with him

This is the third time that that “insider” has proposed that Kyrou was going to Boston. It gets old to read trade rumors.

yes it does, funny how none of the blues insiders have said anything other than what if about the rumors alreadymade.

Kyrou is here for the long haul. One of many analyst from MTL stated that Army asked for Hage and reinbacher and they wouldnt trade those.

Do you have the link to that story? There’s no way the Habs were even considering that deal. No chance in hell they’d give up those two players for Kyrou. It’s either Armstrong trying to fleece them, or he’s seriously delusional if he thinks Kyrou is that valuable.

[Nublues69]

Some person or organization called the Bruins Insider, posted again as late as July 22 that the Bruins want Kyrou because they need offense. I can’t think of one player from them that I would want other than the big guy., Pasternak, and they won’t part with him

This is the third time that that “insider” has proposed that Kyrou was going to Boston. It gets old to read trade rumors.

yes it does, funny how none of the blues insiders have said anything other than what if about the rumors alreadymade.

Kyrou is here for the long haul. One of many analyst from MTL stated that Army asked for Hage and reinbacher and they wouldnt trade those.

Do you have the link to that story? There’s no way the Habs were even considering that deal. No chance in hell they’d give up those two players for Kyrou. It’s either Armstrong trying to fleece them, or he’s seriously delusional if he thinks Kyrou is that valuable.

first and foremost two 1st round prospects is a high ask but 37 goal scorer 70 point winger signed for 6 more years holds that value. He isnt a rental. LOL. I will look for the story but after this you all need to find this sheet on your own.

this is just one of many youcan google this all yourselves for more

https://www.habsfanatics.com/nhl/trades ... clude-them

[moose-and-squirrel]

Some person or organization called the Bruins Insider, posted again as late as July 22 that the Bruins want Kyrou because they need offense. I can’t think of one player from them that I would want other than the big guy., Pasternak, and they won’t part with him

This is the third time that that “insider” has proposed that Kyrou was going to Boston. It gets old to read trade rumors.

yes it does, funny how none of the blues insiders have said anything other than what if about the rumors alreadymade.

Kyrou is here for the long haul. One of many analyst from MTL stated that Army asked for Hage and reinbacher and they wouldnt trade those.

Do you have the link to that story? There’s no way the Habs were even considering that deal. No chance in hell they’d give up those two players for Kyrou. It’s either Armstrong trying to fleece them, or he’s seriously delusional if he thinks Kyrou is that valuable.

first and foremost two 1st round prospects is a high ask but 37 goal scorer 70 point winger signed for 6 more years holds that value. He isnt a rental. LOL. I will look for the story but after this you all need to find this sheet on your own.

this is just one of many youcan google this all yourselves for more

https://www.habsfanatics.com/nhl/trades ... clude-them

yeah.. it seems Army isn't shopping JK, but other teams are calling on him. So Army says give me X and Y.. other teams say no thanks, and end of conversation

not sure why that's so hard to understand for some folks

[bud white]

Some person or organization called the Bruins Insider, posted again as late as July 22 that the Bruins want Kyrou because they need offense. I can’t think of one player from them that I would want other than the big guy., Pasternak, and they won’t part with him

This is the third time that that “insider” has proposed that Kyrou was going to Boston. It gets old to read trade rumors.

yes it does, funny how none of the blues insiders have said anything other than what if about the rumors alreadymade.

Kyrou is here for the long haul. One of many analyst from MTL stated that Army asked for Hage and reinbacher and they wouldnt trade those.

Do you have the link to that story? There’s no way the Habs were even considering that deal. No chance in hell they’d give up those two players for Kyrou. It’s either Armstrong trying to fleece them, or he’s seriously delusional if he thinks Kyrou is that valuable.

Actually, it's the fan boys fabricating the rumors who believe Kyrou is that valuable. I'll side with Elliot Friedman and the TSN folks before a one of those outlets.