Happening Right in front of our eyes

[opti mist]

The total dismantling of one of MLB's historic franchises.

This has to be deliberate.

I can only guess this is in preparation for an anticipated long-term lockout once the CBA expires on December 31, 2026.

Opti

[11WSChamps]

The total dismantling of one of MLB's historic franchises.

This has to be deliberate.

I can only guess this is in preparation for an anticipated long-term lockout once the CBA expires on December 31, 2026.

Opti

Yeah been going on for a few years now.

Hopefully we'll be spared the 2027 season with a work stoppage.

[janb526]

It's an old owner with memory issues letting his son run the business into the ground. Dewitt's are only interested in the all mighty dollar, not putting a quality product on the field. Ballpark village was the start and it goes on and on. Until, the team is sold, it doesn't matter who the new GM is because their hands will be tied with this group. Once a franchise that was feared and players wanted to play for. Now, a team and manager that no established players want to be dealt or sign a contract to play for.

[jusdayzed]

Has anyone here been in Ballpark Village lately? Or are there more people in there than in the ballpark? From the start I refused to go in. It was obvious the money was going there and the condos and not the talent.

[11WSChamps]

Has anyone here been in Ballpark Village lately? Or are there more people in there than in the ballpark? From the start I refused to go in. It was obvious the money was going there and the condos and not the talent.

Never been there and don't intend too.

When the first shovel of dirt hit the ground for BPV the product on the field was doomed.

[Ozziesfan41]

The total dismantling of one of MLB's historic franchises.

This has to be deliberate.

I can only guess this is in preparation for an anticipated long-term lockout once the CBA expires on December 31, 2026.

Opti

Sadly the past few years have been mo trying to win lol it’s not deliberate

[desertrat23]

There's a common refrain from some old-timers around here:
"Remember the '70s?"
"The '70s were worse!"
Or the snobby version:
"Clearly none of you were around for the 70s."

The Cardinals' winning percentage from 2023-now is .485 assuming they lose today. (That jumps to .507 if you add in 2022.) The winning percentage from 1971-74? .501. 1974-77? .499. 1978-81? .498.

Empty stadiums? Mediocre baseball? No chance in October? (Although a couple of years in the 70s they missed out on the division by a game or two.) No stars? (At least the 70s had Gibson and/or Brock every year.)

Look around you, friends. Welcome to the 70s.

Edit: The late 80s-early 90s were actually worse than the 70s. 1998-91 winning percentage: .488. 1992-95? .487.

[TopofthePerch]

I know they are professionals but with all the turmoil in a game that is very mental the players are likely either exhausted or have checked out.

[Carp4Cy]

There's a common refrain from some old-timers around here:
"Remember the '70s?"
"The '70s were worse!"
Or the snobby version:
"Clearly none of you were around for the 70s."

The Cardinals' winning percentage from 2023-now is .485 assuming they lose today. (That jumps to .507 if you add in 2022.) The winning percentage from 1971-74? .501. 1974-77? .499. 1978-81? .498.

Empty stadiums? Mediocre baseball? No chance in October? (Although a couple of years in the 70s they missed out on the division by a game or two.) No stars? (At least the 70s had Gibson and/or Brock every year.)

Look around you, friends. Welcome to the 70s.

Edit: The late 80s-early 90s were actually worse than the 70s. 1998-91 winning percentage: .488. 1992-95? .487.

did fans clamor for the bad teams to trade Brock and Gibson for prospects and rebuild?

[desertrat23]

There's a common refrain from some old-timers around here:
"Remember the '70s?"
"The '70s were worse!"
Or the snobby version:
"Clearly none of you were around for the 70s."

The Cardinals' winning percentage from 2023-now is .485 assuming they lose today. (That jumps to .507 if you add in 2022.) The winning percentage from 1971-74? .501. 1974-77? .499. 1978-81? .498.

Empty stadiums? Mediocre baseball? No chance in October? (Although a couple of years in the 70s they missed out on the division by a game or two.) No stars? (At least the 70s had Gibson and/or Brock every year.)

Look around you, friends. Welcome to the 70s.

Edit: The late 80s-early 90s were actually worse than the 70s. 1998-91 winning percentage: .488. 1992-95? .487.

did fans clamor for the bad teams to trade Brock and Gibson for prospects and rebuild?

That might have been a smart thing to do. If nothing else they were guys you’d want to drive downtown to see. There’s none of that today.

[Strummer Jones]

I was at the game today. "Sucked" probably doesn't describe it well enough.

[45s]

There's a common refrain from some old-timers around here:
"Remember the '70s?"
"The '70s were worse!"
Or the snobby version:
"Clearly none of you were around for the 70s."

The Cardinals' winning percentage from 2023-now is .485 assuming they lose today. (That jumps to .507 if you add in 2022.) The winning percentage from 1971-74? .501. 1974-77? .499. 1978-81? .498.

Empty stadiums? Mediocre baseball? No chance in October? (Although a couple of years in the 70s they missed out on the division by a game or two.) No stars? (At least the 70s had Gibson and/or Brock every year.)

Look around you, friends. Welcome to the 70s.

Edit: The late 80s-early 90s were actually worse than the 70s. 1998-91 winning percentage: .488. 1992-95? .487.

did fans clamor for the bad teams to trade Brock and Gibson for prospects and rebuild?

Maybe they should have…

Gibson finished his career mopping up out of the bullpen…

[Hoosier59]

When Ball Park was first built, I was excited, because I ( Stupidly ) thought it would give the Cardinals an additional revenue source to help compete with the Dodger, and other big spenders. From what I gather, none of that money is used that way. It’s just another way for the DeWitts to line their over stuffed pockets! Yippee, good for them!