Cards' Trade Deadline plans 'fluid' as they continue crucial stretch

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

https://www.mlb.com/news/john-mozeliak- ... e-deadline

Mozeliak described the Cardinals’ plans as “fluid,” saying a hot stretch in the coming days against the Rockies and Padres could shift the thinking. Mozeliak said he had yet to talk with veterans Nolan Arenado, Sonny Gray, Willson Contreras and Miles Mikolas -- all owners of no-trade clauses in their contracts -- about whether they want to remain in St. Louis or seek trades that would drop them into World Series-contending situations. Arenado sought such a move in the offseason, but he used his no-trade clause to squash a potential deal to the Astros.

I don’t think he is looking to trade for or away players. Sounds like he is in a classic Moe holding pattern.

[peterman'srealitytour]

So the report from Goold yesterday indicated Mozeliak had moved to sellers mode. The outcome of upcoming games wouldn’t change that thinking. Now we are back to “fluid” based on games with Rocks and Pads?

I really hope they are selling and Bloom is heavily involved with who we get back in these deals.

[Jobu's Rum]

Same ole mediocre Moe, the deadline is little over a week away and there is a lot of work to be done.

Get off your lazy [ash] and do something. Even with a hot streak this team isn't gonna do jack, same ole pattern every year. A sweep or won series against the record breaking awful Rockies changes nothing

So ready for him to be done this year

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

So the report from Goold yesterday indicated Mozeliak had moved to sellers mode. The outcome of upcoming games wouldn’t change that thinking. Now we are back to “fluid” based on games with Rocks and Pads?

I really hope they are selling and Bloom is heavily involved with who we get back in these deals.

I’ve read some newer reports as well but the article specifically called out the rocks and pads so I’m not sure what to believe. I tend to think if we win today and sweep the series they are back to wait and see. No way IMO Moe sells coming off a sweep even if it’s against the Rox.

It’s his last season he wants to go all in to save face and his legacy. Depending on how you are wired it makes a lot of sense. Next year Cardinals don’t mean squat to him….

[sdaltons]

So the report from Goold yesterday indicated Mozeliak had moved to sellers mode. The outcome of upcoming games wouldn’t change that thinking. Now we are back to “fluid” based on games with Rocks and Pads?

I really hope they are selling and Bloom is heavily involved with who we get back in these deals.

Your last sentence is crucial. If Mo is still running point and Bloom is not able to give much input, I'd just as soon stand pat at the deadline. I do not trust Mo to bring back appropriate value for the few attractive pieces we have.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

The Cardinals' greatest area of power and depth with which to deal from is their bullpen, where top performers Ryan Helsley, Phil Maton and Steven Matz all have expiring contracts and figure to bring the top returns. Demand for one of those players, such as with Helsley in a market where proven closers are hot commodities, could sway the direction the Cardinals head at the Deadline.
“If there’s something that seems too good to be true or something that makes so much sense, obviously we would pursue that,” Mozeliak said.

Reading the tea leaves the only way a trade is made is if something obscenely in the Cards favor comes to fruition.

Note not something that makes sense but something that makes so much sense which imo means nothing.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

So the report from Goold yesterday indicated Mozeliak had moved to sellers mode. The outcome of upcoming games wouldn’t change that thinking. Now we are back to “fluid” based on games with Rocks and Pads?

I really hope they are selling and Bloom is heavily involved with who we get back in these deals.

Your last sentence is crucial. If Mo is still running point and Bloom is not able to give much input, I'd just as soon stand pat at the deadline. I do not trust Mo to bring back appropriate value for the few attractive pieces we have.

“This is where it all started for me, so it’s cool, but there’s a lot going on right now in the game of baseball, so it’s hard for me to reflect on being back in Denver,” said Mozeliak, who is planning to cede his current role to Chaim Bloom after the season.

I’ve read nothing conclusive that Chaim has much say. It’s Moe show from what I’ve read. I posted another piece of the article above.

[RichieRichSTL]

The Cardinals' greatest area of power and depth with which to deal from is their bullpen, where top performers Ryan Helsley, Phil Maton and Steven Matz all have expiring contracts and figure to bring the top returns. Demand for one of those players, such as with Helsley in a market where proven closers are hot commodities, could sway the direction the Cardinals head at the Deadline.
“If there’s something that seems too good to be true or something that makes so much sense, obviously we would pursue that,” Mozeliak said.

Reading the tea leaves the only way a trade is made is if something obscenely in the Cards favor comes to fruition.

Note not something that makes sense but something that makes so much sense which imo means nothing.

If Mo basically does nothing at the trade deadline and this team fails to make the playoffs, the 'reset' will have been an excuse for not replacing free agent veterans.

[45s]

His strategy will be influenced by games against Colorado?

Really?

[82birds]

Same ole mediocre Moe, the deadline is little over a week away and there is a lot of work to be done.

Get off your lazy [ash] and do something. Even with a hot streak this team isn't gonna do jack, same ole pattern every year. A sweep or won series against the record breaking awful Rockies changes nothing

So ready for him to be done this year

+ 10,000,000

[Clubmaker2]

this way, by not publicly admitting any goal, where ever they land, he can say they decided to be there, not that they couldnt get things done they should have.

[Alex Reyes Cy Young]

The Cardinals' greatest area of power and depth with which to deal from is their bullpen, where top performers Ryan Helsley, Phil Maton and Steven Matz all have expiring contracts and figure to bring the top returns. Demand for one of those players, such as with Helsley in a market where proven closers are hot commodities, could sway the direction the Cardinals head at the Deadline.
“If there’s something that seems too good to be true or something that makes so much sense, obviously we would pursue that,” Mozeliak said.

Reading the tea leaves the only way a trade is made is if something obscenely in the Cards favor comes to fruition.

Note not something that makes sense but something that makes so much sense which imo means nothing.

If Mo basically does nothing at the trade deadline and this team fails to make the playoffs, the 'reset' will have been an excuse for not replacing free agent veterans.

Not sure if their motives it seems that Chaim and Moe have competing interest. I think Moe is all in on this seasons whereas Chaim is more long termed vision.

[Jatalk]

Fluid = I don’t have a clue what to do

[2ninr]

I don't bother to read this stuff anymore. I would be shocked if anything happens.

[Bomber1]

https://www.mlb.com/news/john-mozeliak- ... e-deadline

Mozeliak described the Cardinals’ plans as “fluid,” saying a hot stretch in the coming days against the Rockies and Padres could shift the thinking. Mozeliak said he had yet to talk with veterans Nolan Arenado, Sonny Gray, Willson Contreras and Miles Mikolas -- all owners of no-trade clauses in their contracts -- about whether they want to remain in St. Louis or seek trades that would drop them into World Series-contending situations. Arenado sought such a move in the offseason, but he used his no-trade clause to squash a potential deal to the Astros.

I don’t think he is looking to trade for or away players. Sounds like he is in a classic Moe holding pattern.

The one thing at which John Mozeliak excels is
Procrastination.

[An Old Friend]

https://www.mlb.com/news/john-mozeliak- ... e-deadline

Mozeliak described the Cardinals’ plans as “fluid,” saying a hot stretch in the coming days against the Rockies and Padres could shift the thinking. Mozeliak said he had yet to talk with veterans Nolan Arenado, Sonny Gray, Willson Contreras and Miles Mikolas -- all owners of no-trade clauses in their contracts -- about whether they want to remain in St. Louis or seek trades that would drop them into World Series-contending situations. Arenado sought such a move in the offseason, but he used his no-trade clause to squash a potential deal to the Astros.

I don’t think he is looking to trade for or away players. Sounds like he is in a classic Moe holding pattern.

“ If something were to make sense that allows us to feel like we’re improving for the future, then it might be worth a conversation,” Mozeliak said. “I don’t want to put ourselves in a situation where we don’t want to explore anything.”