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Would Arenado waive his NTC to divisional contender ?

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He ( Nado ) has thus far has shown no indication he would waive his NTC.
It is rarely that intra-divisional trades are made in baseball. (Of course, Cardinals most famous one was P Ernio Broglio for Cubs OF Lou Brock in 1964 )

I posed the title question as Arenado's name was mentioned in this article published today . The Athletic Jim Bowden Note: Bowden comes up with some wild stuff that often do not happen but thought I would pass this along as it came out today .
Copy and paste of Bowden's blurb of trade deadline :

3. Milwaukee Brewers (59-40)
The Brewers are focused on improving the left side of their infield, either at shortstop or third base, with an impact bat. They are among the teams who could be in play for the Diamondbacks’ Eugenio Suárez, along with the Rockies’ Ryan McMahon and even the Cardinals’ Nolan Arenado, who has a full no-trade clause. They would like an offensive upgrade at shortstop, where Joey Ortiz has struggled, and they’ve been linked to two speedy Marlins infielders, Xavier Edwards and Otto Lopez.

Note: Suarez HR weekend may change D'Backs mind about putting him on the market . Brewers, Yankees , and others were rumored to be interested in him. So Rockies McMahon was mentioned and Arenado . Brewers don't have a natural 3rd baseman and the vet just may be someone they would like to have for the stretch run .
Two questions though ..1) Would Arenado want to go to Brewers ? They certainly are playing great ball right now. and 2) If Arenado said YES I would accept a trade to Milwaukee, would Mo trade him within the division ? That would be a very bold move and unlike him to do that . On plus side for MO is that the Brewers do have a very good farm system and might be able to get a good prospect or two for Nado.
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Re: Would Arenado waive his NTC to divisional contender ?

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I’d be afraid to deal with Brewers. They seem a little smarter than our guys. No offense to the front office lovers, but the results seem to speak for themselves.
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I'd bet he wouldn't waive for the Brewers (or Cubs) both of who are being linked to E. Suarez.

100% he'd waive for the Dodgers

Maybe for the Yankees or Red Sox?
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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 21 Jul 2025 12:53 pm I’d be afraid to deal with Brewers. They seem a little smarter than our guys. No offense to the front office lovers, but the results seem to speak for themselves.
Good point ! GM Matt Arnold was named Exec. of the Year in 2024. He has done very well . Of course in a deal for Arenado, it is obvious that Cardinals would have to pick up a big chunk of Nado's $$$. Brewers have a lower payroll but I guess if Arnold could get a big portion picked up by the Cardianls it may make financial sense for Milwaukee. Brewers have not been shy about blockbuster deals .. Traded top closer Josh Hader ,let ace P Corbin Burnes leave, SS Willy Adames, traded closer Devin Williams to NYY. The guy wheels and deals no doubt about that .
Arnold surprises each year with his moves .
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ramfandan wrote: 21 Jul 2025 12:58 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 21 Jul 2025 12:53 pm I’d be afraid to deal with Brewers. They seem a little smarter than our guys. No offense to the front office lovers, but the results seem to speak for themselves.
Good point ! GM Matt Arnold was named Exec. of the Year in 2024. He has done very well . Of course in a deal for Arenado, it is obvious that Cardinals would have to pick up a big chunk of Nado's $$$. Brewers have a lower payroll but I guess if Arnold could get a big portion picked up by the Cardianls it may make financial sense for Milwaukee. Brewers have not been shy about blockbuster deals .. Traded top closer Josh Hader ,let ace P Corbin Burnes leave, SS Willy Adames, traded closer Devin Williams to NYY. The guy wheels and deals no doubt about that .
Arnold surprises each year with his moves .
No doubt on Cards picking up salary, especially if they want a good prospect return. Just don’t see them sending anyone our way that isn’t greatly flawed in their view. Arnold might be EOTY again.
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rockondlouie wrote: 21 Jul 2025 12:57 pm I'd bet he wouldn't waive for the Brewers (or Cubs) both of who are being linked to E. Suarez.

100% he'd waive for the Dodgers

Maybe for the Yankees or Red Sox?
Of course for Dodgers .. that's his home area so no brainer for that team. As you said Yankees/ Red Sox maybe sure .

Tell me though , if Suarez is NOT traded or traded to a team other than Brewers, is there any other reason you think Nado would not consider the Brewers ? Geography ? small market ? If it is a 'winning ' club on the field , he would be going to a team with several top starting pitchers .
Without any big star type names on the club (Yelich probably most known nationally ), he would be a 'name' player on the club.
and for sure , the fans would embrace him big time..a future Hall of Famer who still plays excellent defense. The fans there have not seen a 3rd baseman like that since Eddie Matthews 60 70 years ago . His plays would wow the fans !

PS after thought .. remember a series there two years ago when Nado was interviewed about his career very good batting average at that park . Nado commented , 'it's kinda a smaller park to me and the ball really carries well here . ' Even with his diminished power , he could still hit a few more balls out there that are caught at Busch Stadium . From a 'hitting' standpoint, he couldn't have a much better hitters park to play in the last couple years of his career.
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ramfandan wrote: 21 Jul 2025 13:07 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 21 Jul 2025 12:57 pm I'd bet he wouldn't waive for the Brewers (or Cubs) both of who are being linked to E. Suarez.

100% he'd waive for the Dodgers

Maybe for the Yankees or Red Sox?
Of course for Dodgers .. that's his home area so no brainer for that team. As you said Yankees/ Red Sox maybe sure .

Tell me though , if Suarez is NOT traded or traded to a team other than Brewers, is there any other reason you think Nado would not consider the Brewers ? Geography ? small market ? If it is a 'winning ' club on the field , he would be going to a team with several top starting pitchers .
Without any big star type names on the club (Yelich probably most known nationally ), he would be a 'name' player on the club.
and for sure , the fans would embrace him big time..a future Hall of Famer who still plays excellent defense. The fans there have not seen a 3rd baseman like that since Eddie Matthews 60 70 years ago . His plays would wow the fans !

PS after thought .. remember a series there two years ago when Nado was interviewed about his career very good batting average at that park . Nado commented , 'it's kinda a smaller park to me and the ball really carries well here . ' Even with his diminished power , he could still hit a few more balls out there that are caught at Busch Stadium . From a 'hitting' standpoint, he couldn't have a much better hitters park to play in the last couple years of his career.
He turned down the stros' who've won WS titles recently and are going to the playoffs again, I don't see him wanting to play for the Brewers who reek in the playoffs (2 -10 since 2019).

I'd bet a buck he'd say 'No way" to going to Milwaukee.
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IF he'd waive his NTC to go to the Yankees, wonder what the Cards could get from the NYY for a package of Arenado, Fedde and Helsley.
I think the NYY are our best chance currently before the deadline.
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He doesn't like Mo,and wants to stick it to him,so ,he's not going anywhere,folks.
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