swatski wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
Not sure it was the best idea to publicly acknowledge how understaffed the organization was developmentally before this season. Imagine you’re a struggling young player and you’re really trying hard to listen to the coaches and instructors throughout the system only to be told you may have been adversely affected by this organization.
I can’t imagine you wouldn’t be questioning whether you might be better off somewhere else before you lose your career. I think we might be seeing some of that showing thru in the lack of focus in the ABs from the prospects.
Now imagine having Oli as your manager and Mo as the GM.
Not as bewildering as the reason. Who was fired for creating that model? The Cardinals say that those cuts were to use the $ on the MLB payroll. If that is the case then the Cardinals need new ownership. Furthermore with the influx of $50m from last off season we should have the best farm in baseball by now. Follow the $. Dewitt lies to the fans as an excuse.
No one lies to anyone.
Just your opinion.
Acknowledged. Just like it’s an opinion when a post accuses BDW of lying.
Anyone with 1/2 of a brain could see this team has not been honest with the fans the last off season. Their motive was strictly cost cutting, not a rebuild as they were selling.
That’s your opinion, and you have every right to it.
Others have a different opinion.
So Cranny after TLR left and even the REASON Walt was fired is that BDW/MO was going a different direction——-HOME GROWN TALENT…..churning and burning and making that minor league produce the talent……same story line as today.
And AFTER TLR……BDW guts the minor league system.
Any good explanation for this??? And why is today any different???
swatski wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
Not sure it was the best idea to publicly acknowledge how understaffed the organization was developmentally before this season. Imagine you’re a struggling young player and you’re really trying hard to listen to the coaches and instructors throughout the system only to be told you may have been adversely affected by this organization.
I can’t imagine you wouldn’t be questioning whether you might be better off somewhere else before you lose your career. I think we might be seeing some of that showing thru in the lack of focus in the ABs from the prospects.
Now imagine having Oli as your manager and Mo as the GM.
Not as bewildering as the reason. Who was fired for creating that model? The Cardinals say that those cuts were to use the $ on the MLB payroll. If that is the case then the Cardinals need new ownership. Furthermore with the influx of $50m from last off season we should have the best farm in baseball by now. Follow the $. Dewitt lies to the fans as an excuse.
No one lies to anyone.
Just your opinion.
Acknowledged. Just like it’s an opinion when a post accuses BDW of lying.
Anyone with 1/2 of a brain could see this team has not been honest with the fans the last off season. Their motive was strictly cost cutting, not a rebuild as they were selling.
That’s your opinion, and you have every right to it.
Others have a different opinion.
So Cranny after TLR left and even the REASON Walt was fired is that BDW/MO was going a different direction——-HOME GROWN TALENT…..churning and burning and making that minor league produce the talent……same story line as today.
And AFTER TLR……BDW guts the minor league system.
Any good explanation for this??? And why is today any different???
Personal opinion? Gary LaRocque had done a very good job for the Mets and the Cardinals over a long career. But the industry had passed him up as far a technology, specialty coaches, etc. They were slow in letting him go because of the loyalty factor. Younger guys should have been brought in a number of years ago. It’s the younger guys like Bloom and and Cerfolio who can modernize development.
Not 70 year old Gary LaRocque.
swatski wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
Not sure it was the best idea to publicly acknowledge how understaffed the organization was developmentally before this season. Imagine you’re a struggling young player and you’re really trying hard to listen to the coaches and instructors throughout the system only to be told you may have been adversely affected by this organization.
I can’t imagine you wouldn’t be questioning whether you might be better off somewhere else before you lose your career. I think we might be seeing some of that showing thru in the lack of focus in the ABs from the prospects.
Now imagine having Oli as your manager and Mo as the GM.
Not as bewildering as the reason. Who was fired for creating that model? The Cardinals say that those cuts were to use the $ on the MLB payroll. If that is the case then the Cardinals need new ownership. Furthermore with the influx of $50m from last off season we should have the best farm in baseball by now. Follow the $. Dewitt lies to the fans as an excuse.
No one lies to anyone.
Just your opinion.
Acknowledged. Just like it’s an opinion when a post accuses BDW of lying.
Anyone with 1/2 of a brain could see this team has not been honest with the fans the last off season. Their motive was strictly cost cutting, not a rebuild as they were selling.
That’s your opinion, and you have every right to it.
Others have a different opinion.
So Cranny after TLR left and even the REASON Walt was fired is that BDW/MO was going a different direction——-HOME GROWN TALENT…..churning and burning and making that minor league produce the talent……same story line as today.
And AFTER TLR……BDW guts the minor league system.
Any good explanation for this??? And why is today any different???
Personal opinion? Gary LaRocque had done a very good job for the Mets and the Cardinals over a long career. But the industry had passed him up as far a technology, specialty coaches, etc. They were slow in letting him go because of the loyalty factor. Younger guys should have been brought in a number of years ago. It’s the younger guys like Bloom and and Cerfolio who can modernize development.
Not 70 year old Gary LaRocque.
That doesn’t answer not funding Player Development……MO is over this he couldn’t see this deficiency??? And how is that possible that the MAIN route to producing future…..as stated Over and Over was internally and they went cheap and are at the bottom of league??
This LaRocque fall guy story line doesn’t add up
swatski wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
Not sure it was the best idea to publicly acknowledge how understaffed the organization was developmentally before this season. Imagine you’re a struggling young player and you’re really trying hard to listen to the coaches and instructors throughout the system only to be told you may have been adversely affected by this organization.
I can’t imagine you wouldn’t be questioning whether you might be better off somewhere else before you lose your career. I think we might be seeing some of that showing thru in the lack of focus in the ABs from the prospects.
Now imagine having Oli as your manager and Mo as the GM.
Not as bewildering as the reason. Who was fired for creating that model? The Cardinals say that those cuts were to use the $ on the MLB payroll. If that is the case then the Cardinals need new ownership. Furthermore with the influx of $50m from last off season we should have the best farm in baseball by now. Follow the $. Dewitt lies to the fans as an excuse.
No one lies to anyone.
Just your opinion.
Acknowledged. Just like it’s an opinion when a post accuses BDW of lying.
Anyone with 1/2 of a brain could see this team has not been honest with the fans the last off season. Their motive was strictly cost cutting, not a rebuild as they were selling.
That’s your opinion, and you have every right to it.
Others have a different opinion.
So Cranny after TLR left and even the REASON Walt was fired is that BDW/MO was going a different direction——-HOME GROWN TALENT…..churning and burning and making that minor league produce the talent……same story line as today.
And AFTER TLR……BDW guts the minor league system.
Any good explanation for this??? And why is today any different???
Personal opinion? Gary LaRocque had done a very good job for the Mets and the Cardinals over a long career. But the industry had passed him up as far a technology, specialty coaches, etc. They were slow in letting him go because of the loyalty factor. Younger guys should have been brought in a number of years ago. It’s the younger guys like Bloom and and Cerfolio who can modernize development.
Not 70 year old Gary LaRocque.
That doesn’t answer not funding Player Development……MO is over this he couldn’t see this deficiency??? And how is that possible that the MAIN route to producing future…..as stated Over and Over was internally and they went cheap and are at the bottom of league??
This LaRocque fall guy story line doesn’t add up
Of course it does. Gary had done a good job for many years for the Cardinals and produced some fine players through the system. If you don’t know him, you won’t understand. I know him and saw the whole thing develop.
swatski wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
Not sure it was the best idea to publicly acknowledge how understaffed the organization was developmentally before this season. Imagine you’re a struggling young player and you’re really trying hard to listen to the coaches and instructors throughout the system only to be told you may have been adversely affected by this organization.
I can’t imagine you wouldn’t be questioning whether you might be better off somewhere else before you lose your career. I think we might be seeing some of that showing thru in the lack of focus in the ABs from the prospects.
Now imagine having Oli as your manager and Mo as the GM.
Not as bewildering as the reason. Who was fired for creating that model? The Cardinals say that those cuts were to use the $ on the MLB payroll. If that is the case then the Cardinals need new ownership. Furthermore with the influx of $50m from last off season we should have the best farm in baseball by now. Follow the $. Dewitt lies to the fans as an excuse.
No one lies to anyone.
Just your opinion.
Acknowledged. Just like it’s an opinion when a post accuses BDW of lying.
Anyone with 1/2 of a brain could see this team has not been honest with the fans the last off season. Their motive was strictly cost cutting, not a rebuild as they were selling.
That’s your opinion, and you have every right to it.
Others have a different opinion.
So Cranny after TLR left and even the REASON Walt was fired is that BDW/MO was going a different direction——-HOME GROWN TALENT…..churning and burning and making that minor league produce the talent……same story line as today.
And AFTER TLR……BDW guts the minor league system.
Any good explanation for this??? And why is today any different???
Personal opinion? Gary LaRocque had done a very good job for the Mets and the Cardinals over a long career. But the industry had passed him up as far a technology, specialty coaches, etc. They were slow in letting him go because of the loyalty factor. Younger guys should have been brought in a number of years ago. It’s the younger guys like Bloom and and Cerfolio who can modernize development.
Not 70 year old Gary LaRocque.
That doesn’t answer not funding Player Development……MO is over this he couldn’t see this deficiency??? And how is that possible that the MAIN route to producing future…..as stated Over and Over was internally and they went cheap and are at the bottom of league??
This LaRocque fall guy story line doesn’t add up
Of course it does. Gary had done a good job for many years for the Cardinals and produced some fine players through the system. If you don’t know him, you won’t understand. I know him and saw the whole thing develop.
AGAIN BDW cut funding to the bottom of league level current dysfunctional minor league system……so you’re saying LaRocque told MO and BDW that they could produce top of the league talent on the cheap and didn’t require any tech or staffs of coaches like all the other top minor league systems??
This is what LaRocque mandated and BDW/MO just went right along??? This is the story??
CCard wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 23:49 pm
More of that coaches bull[shirt]? Really? Every (drat) one of these players has played the game and watched the game being played their whole lives. Please, stop with the coaches bull[shirt]. That was an obvious ploy by ownership to cut payroll and make excuses for it.
Amen. These aren't kids coming out of high school. At this stage in their career, they're either good players, or they're not. Put the bat on the ball, and make solid contact. This is the MLB. Its roster construction, period. The teams leader in HRs has 12. Thats not a result of incompetent instructional teaching. Its lack of talent. They cant steal bases. Lack of talent. Can't pitch consistently. Lack of talent. The best coaches in the world cant change that.
Indeed. Anyone that says you can't buy championships is demented.
swatski wrote: ↑19 Jul 2025 22:03 pm
Not sure it was the best idea to publicly acknowledge how understaffed the organization was developmentally before this season. Imagine you’re a struggling young player and you’re really trying hard to listen to the coaches and instructors throughout the system only to be told you may have been adversely affected by this organization.
I can’t imagine you wouldn’t be questioning whether you might be better off somewhere else before you lose your career. I think we might be seeing some of that showing thru in the lack of focus in the ABs from the prospects.
Now imagine having Oli as your manager and Mo as the GM.
Not as bewildering as the reason. Who was fired for creating that model? The Cardinals say that those cuts were to use the $ on the MLB payroll. If that is the case then the Cardinals need new ownership. Furthermore with the influx of $50m from last off season we should have the best farm in baseball by now. Follow the $. Dewitt lies to the fans as an excuse.
No one lies to anyone.
We are going to “Give the youth some runway” but McGreevy is in AAA and Mikolas and Fedde keep starting. There are so many examples.
