The Crazies who said bring up JJ Soon

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Re: The Crazies who said bring up JJ Soon

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Omg. One game. Revolt! Let him grow and come up next season. It’s not rocket science
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Absolut wrote: 19 Jul 2025 16:15 pm Omg. One game. Revolt! Let him grow and come up next season. It’s not rocket science
Actually 4 games at AAA

8for16 3 doubles, 1triple, 1 HR
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Re: The Crazies who said bring up JJ Soon

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Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 14:36 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 19 Jul 2025 13:06 pm
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 12:54 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 19 Jul 2025 11:53 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:45 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:36 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:34 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:31 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:29 pm I wanted him up to start the year 8O
That would have been dumb
Nope. JW on the team is pathetic. They are the same age, except one was a college stud
They’ve hopefully learned their lesson about rushing players to the majors it’s dumb
How is a proven college stud being rushed when he's the same age as JW is now, who came from high school. 6 of his fellow draft mates are in MLB.

:lol:
The problem is they now have JW Gorman Burelson Nootbar and Donovan all trying to get playing time between 2B RF and LF. DH is locked with Herrera. So locking 2B with Wetherholt means Donovan is your must play everyday LF. The. Burleson will be in RF. What do you propose for Noot JW and Gorman?
Great points!
Look...I’m psyched to see JJ but for the balance of the season you have a numbers crunch that needs to be sorted out.
Now there certainly could be deadline moves to alleviate some of that but most likely the deadline will involve pending FA’s and possibly Arenado?
Gorman and Walker are on the clock for 2025.
Heck....you don’t even have room to look at Saggese much less JJ!
Saggese should absolutely Not be looked at before JJW. He's already had some looks this year and pretty well flopped. And his fielding at 3b isn't going to magically start resembling Arenado's if we are just "patient". He's a backup at best right now but we don't need that backup. He's Not our future. The rest of that group - well, if we are in the playoff hunt in Sept, then its probably because we made a great trade involving Gorman or Donovan or someone and can fit JJW in. And if we aren't, then there's no harm in benching one of the starters to give JJW playing time in Sept. Sept callups have worked this way since forever with top prospects. Get them some experience before they have to start a full season from scratch.
September certainly possible
That would be the smart move. He’s not going to be a guy who comes up and leads the cardinals to the post season this season he’s not a pitcher. Wait until September call him so he will retain his rookie status for next season win rookie of the year and get a draft pick. Bringing him up now would only make some fans happy who a lot of which will be the same ones who turn on him as soon as he slumps
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Re: The Crazies who said bring up JJ Soon

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Goldfan wrote: 19 Jul 2025 16:48 pm
Absolut wrote: 19 Jul 2025 16:15 pm Omg. One game. Revolt! Let him grow and come up next season. It’s not rocket science
Actually 4 games at AAA

8for16 3 doubles, 1triple, 1 HR
I change my tune!

Op was focused on his 4-5 game
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Re: The Crazies who said bring up JJ Soon

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Goldfan wrote: 19 Jul 2025 16:48 pm
Absolut wrote: 19 Jul 2025 16:15 pm Omg. One game. Revolt! Let him grow and come up next season. It’s not rocket science
Actually 4 games at AAA

8for16 3 doubles, 1triple, 1 HR
That's a little impressive 8)
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Re: The Crazies who said bring up JJ Soon

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 19 Jul 2025 16:52 pm
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 14:36 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: 19 Jul 2025 13:06 pm
Cusecards wrote: 19 Jul 2025 12:54 pm
Youboughtit wrote: 19 Jul 2025 11:53 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:45 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:36 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:34 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:31 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Jul 2025 22:29 pm I wanted him up to start the year 8O
That would have been dumb
Nope. JW on the team is pathetic. They are the same age, except one was a college stud
They’ve hopefully learned their lesson about rushing players to the majors it’s dumb
How is a proven college stud being rushed when he's the same age as JW is now, who came from high school. 6 of his fellow draft mates are in MLB.

:lol:
The problem is they now have JW Gorman Burelson Nootbar and Donovan all trying to get playing time between 2B RF and LF. DH is locked with Herrera. So locking 2B with Wetherholt means Donovan is your must play everyday LF. The. Burleson will be in RF. What do you propose for Noot JW and Gorman?
Great points!
Look...I’m psyched to see JJ but for the balance of the season you have a numbers crunch that needs to be sorted out.
Now there certainly could be deadline moves to alleviate some of that but most likely the deadline will involve pending FA’s and possibly Arenado?
Gorman and Walker are on the clock for 2025.
Heck....you don’t even have room to look at Saggese much less JJ!
Saggese should absolutely Not be looked at before JJW. He's already had some looks this year and pretty well flopped. And his fielding at 3b isn't going to magically start resembling Arenado's if we are just "patient". He's a backup at best right now but we don't need that backup. He's Not our future. The rest of that group - well, if we are in the playoff hunt in Sept, then its probably because we made a great trade involving Gorman or Donovan or someone and can fit JJW in. And if we aren't, then there's no harm in benching one of the starters to give JJW playing time in Sept. Sept callups have worked this way since forever with top prospects. Get them some experience before they have to start a full season from scratch.
September certainly possible
That would be the smart move. He’s not going to be a guy who comes up and leads the cardinals to the post season this season he’s not a pitcher. Wait until September call him so he will retain his rookie status for next season win rookie of the year and get a draft pick. Bringing him up now would only make some fans happy who a lot of which will be the same ones who turn on him as soon as he slumps
True
And again it’s not just about JJ!
If I was asked to make a prediction now I think he becomes a core piece starting next season.
But....in the meantime we need to address Walker, Gorman, Nootbaar, etc in 2025.
So they need to play the balance of the season.
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Re: The Crazies who said bring up JJ Soon

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Who is JJ Soon? Did I miss a signing from the JPPL?
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Re: The Crazies who said bring up JJ Soon

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As I posted yesterday, please don't bring him up and have him around this sad pathetic team. Let him rake with teammates he is having success and probably fun with and let Bloom implode this team off season and let him come in and win a spot in the spring with new teammates, manager, and culture. All Marmol would do is mess with his head and confidence like most players that come up.
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