Is it time to move on from Walker

[CrownRoyalCaramel]

I would be ok with it, Burleson is way better anyway

Herrera could end up in the outfield, too. Herrera and Burleson might be OK, offensively, as corner outfielders, production-wise. I would hope Herrera could be at least average, defensively in LF.

This is exactly right.
If STL is serious about Herrera becoming an outfielder, Walker is expendable.
Mootbaar is as well.
Donovan and Burleson have proven more than adequate and could rotate through LF and other available roles for each.
Which, in turn, frees up infield PA's for Gorman, Saggese, and (next year) Wetherholt) - particularly when N/A is traded again.

Stop with the mootbaar and sushi bar. You sound like an effing moron.

[ClassicO]

And just who in the Wild, Wild World of Sports do you think you'd get for Walker in a trade? Not much.

It reminds me of Melville saying to trade O'Neill, who he said was lousy, for a young quality starting pitcher. SO dumb and unrealistic.

If you can't find anyone in a trade who truly helps the team, hold on to him and see how he develops.

[Melville]

I would be ok with it, Burleson is way better anyway

Herrera could end up in the outfield, too. Herrera and Burleson might be OK, offensively, as corner outfielders, production-wise. I would hope Herrera could be at least average, defensively in LF.

This is exactly right.
If STL is serious about Herrera becoming an outfielder, Walker is expendable.
Mootbaar is as well.
Donovan and Burleson have proven more than adequate and could rotate through LF and other available roles for each.
Which, in turn, frees up infield PA's for Gorman, Saggese, and (next year) Wetherholt) - particularly when N/A is traded again.

Stop with the mootbaar and sushi bar. You sound like an effing moron.

Mootbaar - illustrates that he is redundant and irrelevant to the team's needs.
Lars The Human Sushi-baar - perfect branding which correctly captures the reality that he will always leave a team and fans wanting something more: interesting flavor, not much substance.
Glad you enjoy my spot-on analysis.

[Bomber1]

Not quite yet but he's right on the edge of being dealt.

BUT

I want to see what C. Bloom/R.Cerfolio and their crew can do w/both Walker and N. Gorman.

What if this new leadership group actually fixes those two?

Could happen since we know Mo and his gang of misfits became totally inept.

Give it one more year.

If Walker (and Gorman) don't make improvements, then move on.

They cost nothing, let it play out under Bloom.

Did Mozeliak become inept? Or was he always inept and it was masked by TLR, Pujols, Molina, Wainwright, Holliday, Beltran, Berkman, etc for several seasons?

Your last sentence is the true one.

[JuanAgosto]

Not quite yet but he's right on the edge of being dealt.

BUT

I want to see what C. Bloom/R.Cerfolio and their crew can do w/both Walker and N. Gorman.

What if this new leadership group actually fixes those two?

Could happen since we know Mo and his gang of misfits became totally inept.

Give it one more year.

If Walker (and Gorman) don't make improvements, then move on.

They cost nothing, let it play out under Bloom.

Did Mozeliak become inept? Or was he always inept and it was masked by TLR, Pujols, Molina, Wainwright, Holliday, Beltran, Berkman, etc for several seasons?

Your last sentence is the true one.

I think you're right.

[scoutyjones2]

Walker has put up a .210/.267/.295 slash line with three home runs and 23 RBI this year, and his 60 wRC+ means he's been 40% below league average at the plate and among the worst hitters in all of baseball. While the defense has been better, it's not good enough to make him a valuable player with how bad his bat is, as he would be tied with Brenton Doyle for the second-worst fWAR in all of baseball (-0. if he qualified for leaderboards.

Adding to that, Walker's 33% strikeout rate, .295 SLG, and .085 ISO are all career worsts, which is even more disheartening considering those are three of the areas the Cardinals needed to see improvement from Walker in 2025.

[Cusecards]

I would be ok with it, Burleson is way better anyway

Herrera could end up in the outfield, too. Herrera and Burleson might be OK, offensively, as corner outfielders, production-wise. I would hope Herrera could be at least average, defensively in LF.

This is exactly right.
If STL is serious about Herrera becoming an outfielder, Walker is expendable.
Mootbaar is as well.
Donovan and Burleson have proven more than adequate and could rotate through LF and other available roles for each.
Which, in turn, frees up infield PA's for Gorman, Saggese, and (next year) Wetherholt) - particularly when N/A is traded again.

Stop with the mootbaar and sushi bar. You sound like an effing moron.

Whoa...you need to back off!
Mel is a “highly educated and qualified trainer”.
Apparently he effectively incorporates the childish name calling in his training?? LOL

[Bad14]

I would be ok with it, Burleson is way better anyway

Herrera could end up in the outfield, too. Herrera and Burleson might be OK, offensively, as corner outfielders, production-wise. I would hope Herrera could be at least average, defensively in LF.

This is exactly right.
If STL is serious about Herrera becoming an outfielder, Walker is expendable.
Mootbaar is as well.
Donovan and Burleson have proven more than adequate and could rotate through LF and other available roles for each.
Which, in turn, frees up infield PA's for Gorman, Saggese, and (next year) Wetherholt) - particularly when N/A is traded again.

Stop with the mootbaar and sushi bar. You sound like an effing moron.

Mootbaar - illustrates that he is redundant and irrelevant to the team's needs.
Lars The Human Sushi-baar - perfect branding which correctly captures the reality that he will always leave a team and fans wanting something more: interesting flavor, not much substance.
Glad you enjoy my spot-on analysis.

No. You sound like a child. Something went seriously wrong in your life. Respond however you'd like. I won't be reading it.

[Cusecards]

I would be ok with it, Burleson is way better anyway

Herrera could end up in the outfield, too. Herrera and Burleson might be OK, offensively, as corner outfielders, production-wise. I would hope Herrera could be at least average, defensively in LF.

This is exactly right.
If STL is serious about Herrera becoming an outfielder, Walker is expendable.
Mootbaar is as well.
Donovan and Burleson have proven more than adequate and could rotate through LF and other available roles for each.
Which, in turn, frees up infield PA's for Gorman, Saggese, and (next year) Wetherholt) - particularly when N/A is traded again.

Stop with the mootbaar and sushi bar. You sound like an effing moron.

Mootbaar - illustrates that he is redundant and irrelevant to the team's needs.
Lars The Human Sushi-baar - perfect branding which correctly captures the reality that he will always leave a team and fans wanting something more: interesting flavor, not much substance.
Glad you enjoy my spot-on analysis.

No. You sound like a child. Something went seriously wrong in your life. Respond however you'd like. I won't be reading it.

ME-ville is harmless and great for a daily laugh with his “act”.
But....the “act” has grown stale and the Sideshow Clown needs new material.

[slimjay63801]

Send him back to Memphis and leave him there til he proves he can hit Major League pitching. If he doesn't figure it out by the end of the next season then trade him for whatever you can get. That's the plain, simple answer IMO....

[Melville]

I would be ok with it, Burleson is way better anyway

Herrera could end up in the outfield, too. Herrera and Burleson might be OK, offensively, as corner outfielders, production-wise. I would hope Herrera could be at least average, defensively in LF.

This is exactly right.
If STL is serious about Herrera becoming an outfielder, Walker is expendable.
Mootbaar is as well.
Donovan and Burleson have proven more than adequate and could rotate through LF and other available roles for each.
Which, in turn, frees up infield PA's for Gorman, Saggese, and (next year) Wetherholt) - particularly when N/A is traded again.

Stop with the mootbaar and sushi bar. You sound like an effing moron.

Mootbaar - illustrates that he is redundant and irrelevant to the team's needs.
Lars The Human Sushi-baar - perfect branding which correctly captures the reality that he will always leave a team and fans wanting something more: interesting flavor, not much substance.
Glad you enjoy my spot-on analysis.

No. You sound like a child. Something went seriously wrong in your life. Respond however you'd like. I won't be reading it.

You read every word I post.
Twice, at least.
We both know that.
Wise on your part.
But let's discuss Walker.
Never about me.
Only and always about the game.

[Hoosier59]

Walker, it seems, is starting to realize he can’t be successful doing things the way he wants to. He’s starting to make adjustments that he has needed to make. There is so much upside with him, that to quit on him now would be insane. It remains to be seen if Gorman makes those same adjustments, and stay with them. He seems to make the necessary adjustments, only to revert back to his old ways just when he starts to have some success. He seems to be very head strong and determined to do things his way. My patients is getting pretty thin with him.
Nootbaar is what he’s always been. His minor league stats never said he’d be anything else, but what he is. He’s a solid player, but not a core type player. If he could play a strong center field defensively and stay healthy, he’d be a keeper, but he can’t do either one.
Masyn Winn won’t ever be a superstar as long as he continually hunts home runs. If he likes be a .250 hitter, and batting at the bottom of the order, then he’ll never change. If he wants to be hitting at the top, he needs to try and be a table setter, and set his sights on scoring runs. He could be a perennial .300 hitter if he go back to using the whole field.

[dugoutrex]

I would be ok with it, Burleson is way better anyway

Herrera could end up in the outfield, too. Herrera and Burleson might be OK, offensively, as corner outfielders, production-wise. I would hope Herrera could be at least average, defensively in LF.

This is exactly right.
If STL is serious about Herrera becoming an outfielder, Walker is expendable.
Mootbaar is as well.
Donovan and Burleson have proven more than adequate and could rotate through LF and other available roles for each.
Which, in turn, frees up infield PA's for Gorman, Saggese, and (next year) Wetherholt) - particularly when N/A is traded again.

Stop with the mootbaar and sushi bar. You sound like an effing moron.

ME ville doesn't just sound like one

[Ron Gant's Bicep]

Send him back to Memphis and leave him there til he proves he can hit Major League pitching. If he doesn't figure it out by the end of the next season then trade him for whatever you can get. That's the plain, simple answer IMO....

I don’t necessarily disagree but I believe he only has one option left and it would be best to save that for next season. He should get everyday at bats until the season ends, regardless of how ugly it gets. That was the original purpose of this season anyway.

[scoutyjones2]

Walker, it seems, is starting to realize he can’t be successful doing things the way he wants to. He’s starting to make adjustments that he has needed to make. There is so much upside with him, that to quit on him now would be insane. It remains to be seen if Gorman makes those same adjustments, and stay with them. He seems to make the necessary adjustments, only to revert back to his old ways just when he starts to have some success. He seems to be very head strong and determined to do things his way. My patients is getting pretty thin with him.
Nootbaar is what he’s always been. His minor league stats never said he’d be anything else, but what he is. He’s a solid player, but not a core type player. If he could play a strong center field defensively and stay healthy, he’d be a keeper, but he can’t do either one.
Masyn Winn won’t ever be a superstar as long as he continually hunts home runs. If he likes be a .250 hitter, and batting at the bottom of the order, then he’ll never change. If he wants to be hitting at the top, he needs to try and be a table setter, and set his sights on scoring runs. He could be a perennial .300 hitter if he go back to using the whole field.

Where do you see evidence of JW making adjustments. He's gotten worse every year!

55 OPS+ and a -1.0 WAR...all worse than his prior years