2025 Draft Signings

[An Old Friend]

Thought this had to be some AI magic photoshop wizardry until I saw Shady start his own thread confirming Doyle's signing.

[craviduce]

Thought this had to be some AI magic photoshop wizardry until I saw Shady start his own thread confirming Doyle's signing.

he's having a bad year. Roby is hurt, Saggese can't hit, and Burleson is battling grazing rights with the grounds crew at Busch III

go easy on him

[Carp4Cy]

Doyle signs for $7.25 million per Jim Callis

https://x.com/jimcallisMLB/status/1945860782048076166

So close to $885,000ish under slot.

That's a lot of money to throw at that OF we took after Doyle. I would imagine he would be an above slot type of fella?

Sorry, can't remember names. I've been moving homes this week. I think I probably fried a few braincells in this heat.

From the sounds of Ryan Mitchell’s interview that I saw yesterday, I don’t think we’ll have to go much overslot for Mitchell. He said his goal was at least $1 million after taxes and slot value of the pick was $1.72 million. He may be a bit above it, but not by too much.

I’m actually wondering where all of the under slot money will go to because we took a lot of college players and I don’t remember many of them being the kinds of guys we’d need to go a lot over slot to sign.

I always wondered this too. The last couple years we draft so ultra conservative after the first round or so. Aren’t we leaving something on the table if we don’t take anybody that we need to overpay with all that money saved?

[ICCFIM2]

He probably still makes more money than if he signed a full slot deal with a California team because of the taxes.

Why is that? Depending on the terms of the contract, he is not necessarily subject to tax in MO or in the case you mentioned CA. If they structured it right, it should be TN where he resides, which has no state income tax on wages. After he starts playing, that changes.

If you think about it, that gives schools in FL, TX and TN a huge recruiting advantage because any athlete that gets a sign on bonus from those schools gets a huge tax break, not to mention state income tax free NIL money...

[craviduce]

courtesy of @Redbirdfarmand

up-to-date

[craviduce]

Holy Cow...the Braves took their BIG Savings from the first 3 picks of their draft and gave it all to their 4th and 5th round picks....2 over slot deals by a WHOPPING $3.1million.

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per @CarlosCollazo


Carlos Collazo
@CarlosACollazo
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The Braves have also signed 5th rounder Conor Essenburg to a $1,197,500 deal. Slot value for the 157th pick is $438,600.

A $758,900 over slot deal.


Carlos Collazo
@CarlosACollazo
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9m
The Braves signed fourth-rounder Briggs McKenzie for $2,997,500. Slot value for the 127th pick is $588,900.

A $2,408,600 over slot deal.

[Futuregm2]

Holy Cow...the Braves took their BIG Savings from the first 3 picks of their draft and gave it all to their 4th and 5th round picks....2 over slot deals by a WHOPPING $3.1million.

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per @CarlosCollazo


Carlos Collazo
@CarlosACollazo
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The Braves have also signed 5th rounder Conor Essenburg to a $1,197,500 deal. Slot value for the 157th pick is $438,600.

A $758,900 over slot deal.


Carlos Collazo
@CarlosACollazo
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9m
The Braves signed fourth-rounder Briggs McKenzie for $2,997,500. Slot value for the 127th pick is $588,900.

A $2,408,600 over slot deal.

Wow, $2.4 million overslot on one deal?! Kid hit jackpot!

[cardstatman]

No idea if this is valid, but... Tanner Franklin

https://www.wbir.com/article/sports/bas ... 3f1d013f83

[82birds]

No idea if this is valid, but... Tanner Franklin

https://www.wbir.com/article/sports/bas ... 3f1d013f83

thx for the link
seems valid to me

[Jobafish]

He probably still makes more money than if he signed a full slot deal with a California team because of the taxes.

Why is that? Depending on the terms of the contract, he is not necessarily subject to tax in MO or in the case you mentioned CA. If they structured it right, it should be TN where he resides, which has no state income tax on wages. After he starts playing, that changes.

If you think about it, that gives schools in FL, TX and TN a huge recruiting advantage because any athlete that gets a sign on bonus from those schools gets a huge tax break, not to mention state income tax free NIL money...

He was projected to go to the angels with pick 2. I don’t know what that pick projected to pay out, just figured it would be close to the same as the 5th pick after California taxes. I don’t know details about California taxes nor do I have a degree in law, but I do know that some athletes choose not to play in cali because of the severe tax it. You might be right though.

[ICCFIM2]

He probably still makes more money than if he signed a full slot deal with a California team because of the taxes.

Why is that? Depending on the terms of the contract, he is not necessarily subject to tax in MO or in the case you mentioned CA. If they structured it right, it should be TN where he resides, which has no state income tax on wages. After he starts playing, that changes.

If you think about it, that gives schools in FL, TX and TN a huge recruiting advantage because any athlete that gets a sign on bonus from those schools gets a huge tax break, not to mention state income tax free NIL money...

He was projected to go to the angels with pick 2. I don’t know what that pick projected to pay out, just figured it would be close to the same as the 5th pick after California taxes. I don’t know details about California taxes nor do I have a degree in law, but I do know that some athletes choose not to play in cali because of the severe tax it. You might be right though.

Once they start playing, the players are subject to tax in the states where they play, all of them. The signing bonuses are based on where they reside as of the time they sign the contract, unless the bonus is subject to conditions of playing to achieve it, which it should not be. Of course player during their playing careers are subjecting themselves to much higher taxes if they play in CA, NY, WI, etc. The difference is significant enough it should change the contract dollars. But, that first sign on bonus for players living in FL, TX and TN is state income tax free...

[craviduce]

first assignment...and he's been in Jupiter for several days. First draft signing....Ty Van Dyke assigned to the FCL, 10th pick, RHP

they will all take an assignment with the FCL...work outs, throwing programs, hitting and swing changes, new positions tried, etc. , Some might actually play in a game with the FCL Cards while the season is still active. From their they'll be assigned to Palm Beach or Peoria.

[Futuregm2]

Crav, we got a couple undrafted FA signings!

C Alex Birge California .231/.415/.582 with Cal this year 12 HR 40 BB-51 K in 178 PA. He put up pretty good summer league numbers the last 3 years.

RHP Bobby Olsen Villanova Ugly college numbers (6.01 ERA in 176 IP in his college career) but good summer league numbers (2.96 ERA in 76 IP). Olsen pitched 3 years at Brown, 1 year at Nebraska, and 1 year at Villanova. This past year he had a 6.19 ERA with 59 K’s in 56.2 IP for Villanova.

[Futuregm2]

A couple other notes

Also noticed that the Orioles signed a HS player as an undrafted FA. I don’t religiously look at that, but I never thought of a HS player as an undrafted FA.

Ryan Ure signed with the Royals from Oklahoma State. He was drafted in the 16th round by the Rangers in 2021 out of HS, didn’t sign. Then was drafted in the 19th round by the Giants last year and didn’t sign. Now he’s an undrafted FA. Talk about a regressing position.

[craviduce]

Crav, we got a couple undrafted FA signings!

C Alex Birge California .231/.415/.582 with Cal this year 12 HR 40 BB-51 K in 178 PA. He put up pretty good summer league numbers the last 3 years.

RHP Bobby Olsen Villanova Ugly college numbers (6.01 ERA in 176 IP in his college career) but good summer league numbers (2.96 ERA in 76 IP). Olsen pitched 3 years at Brown, 1 year at Nebraska, and 1 year at Villanova. This past year he had a 6.19 ERA with 59 K’s in 56.2 IP for Villanova.

FINALLY

(bleep)...those are some ugly red flags. Just looking at Birge's numbers there, he has some big swing and misses IN the zone, not OUT of the zone. WoW...a lot of K's and Walks. It's like Jace LaViolette, Jr. When he does get ahold of one, I bet it flies for days.

Olsen.... reliever right? That's the thought? Maybe he has 1 good inning in him every time out?

[craviduce]

Carlos Collazo
@CarlosACollazo
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27m
The Cardinals signed 4th rounder Cade Crossland to a $729,500 deal. Slot value for the 120th pick is $629,500.

A $100,000 over slot deal.