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Byrum Extended

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it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
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Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
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This will be 2 x $6.25M
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Rick Dhaliwal
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Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
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Re: Byrum Extended

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Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
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39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
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1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This is interesting. It’s cheap enough that more contenders might be able to find room to try and acquire him. But it also takes him right to free agency, which could hurt his trade value for teams that wanted him as more of a longterm fit. They won’t have any guarantees. He’ll be a glorified rental.
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bluetunehead wrote: 14 Jul 2025 23:42 pm
Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This is interesting. It’s cheap enough that more contenders might be able to find room to try and acquire him. But it also takes him right to free agency, which could hurt his trade value for teams that wanted him as more of a longterm fit. They won’t have any guarantees. He’ll be a glorified rental.
He'll bring a great rental price IMO, probably similar or even more than he would bring now(before he was signed) but the problem is what if they are in the playoff hunt? Buffalo can't sell if they are in the playoff hunt.
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Re: Byrum Extended

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skilles wrote: 15 Jul 2025 00:03 am
bluetunehead wrote: 14 Jul 2025 23:42 pm
Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This is interesting. It’s cheap enough that more contenders might be able to find room to try and acquire him. But it also takes him right to free agency, which could hurt his trade value for teams that wanted him as more of a longterm fit. They won’t have any guarantees. He’ll be a glorified rental.
He'll bring a great rental price IMO, probably similar or even more than he would bring now(before he was signed) but the problem is what if they are in the playoff hunt? Buffalo can't sell if they are in the playoff hunt.
lol. good one
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Re: Byrum Extended

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Sounds to me like he's betting on himself.
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Re: Byrum Extended

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dhsux wrote: 15 Jul 2025 07:36 am Sounds to me like he's betting on himself.
Sabres are betting on him too, trade value next off season rises if he has a great year. (Assuming he'd sign long term)
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This simply seems like a settlement to avoid the arbitration hearing. Pretty sure he opted for the two year contract when the team elected arb. He was signing a minimum two year contract no matter what. Takes him right to UFA. The number was clearly a settlement of the numbers each side submitted for the hearing. Captain Obvious has spoken.

He will get traded at the trade deadline this year, off season or trade deadline year two. Captain Obvious theories continue.

If anyone wants to be entertained, check out Sabres twitter. That is one tortured fanbase. I think my current favorite is the Bills new shiny two billion dollar stadium is impacting the Sabres payroll, management etc. Followed very closely by their lack of activity this offseason other than dumping a 70 pt guy for a third liner and a 2/3 pairing D man. Also followed closely by how long before Thompson and Dahlin want out. Makes this place look civil and calm.
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I'm just glad that there is much less likelihood that the Blues make a trade for him at this point. I want to see Lindstein and Fischer develop for another season before we bring in an expensive young LHD. I also want to see what Tucker looks like this season. He was trending up at the end of last season and the little look we had of him in the playoffs before injury.
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Re: Byrum Extended

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Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This makes it much easier to trade him.

1) Any acquiring team knows they have him for 2 trade deadlines guaranteed, and have at least one off season to negotiate an extension.

2) For Buffalo this increases the return as a signed player always returns more.

I mean ultimately Buffalo could keep him and send him at the trade deadline, but the off season is the time when you are going to get the best return so why wait? Even though he has been healthy for a few seasons now, there is always the lingering doubt and if you are Buffalo do you really want to take that chance if you don't have to?
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Re: Byrum Extended

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TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:29 am
Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This makes it much easier to trade him.

1) Any acquiring team knows they have him for 2 trade deadlines guaranteed, and have at least one off season to negotiate an extension.

2) For Buffalo this increases the return as a signed player always returns more.

I mean ultimately Buffalo could keep him and send him at the trade deadline, but the off season is the time when you are going to get the best return so why wait? Even though he has been healthy for a few seasons now, there is always the lingering doubt and if you are Buffalo do you really want to take that chance if you don't have to?
While I agree with number 1, in regards to number 2, this most definitely does not increase the return for Buffalo. Acquiring team would have wanted longer term extension. Lessons return for Sabres. Would have given more to have Byram locked down long term if a team wanted him.
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noted wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:42 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:29 am
Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This makes it much easier to trade him.

1) Any acquiring team knows they have him for 2 trade deadlines guaranteed, and have at least one off season to negotiate an extension.

2) For Buffalo this increases the return as a signed player always returns more.

I mean ultimately Buffalo could keep him and send him at the trade deadline, but the off season is the time when you are going to get the best return so why wait? Even though he has been healthy for a few seasons now, there is always the lingering doubt and if you are Buffalo do you really want to take that chance if you don't have to?
While I agree with number 1, in regards to number 2, this most definitely does not increase the return for Buffalo. Acquiring team would have wanted longer term extension. Lessons return for Sabres. Would have given more to have Byram locked down long term if a team wanted him.
Agreed. Anyone that would’ve traded for him now would’ve only done the trade with the ability to also come to a longterm contract extension agreement with Byram. But now that that’s off the table and he’s now a UFA in 2 years, his value is less now.

I just hope the Blues move on and don’t re-explore this in a year or so. I was down for acquiring Dobson but I don’t see Byram in the same light.
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Re: Byrum Extended

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noted wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:42 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:29 am
Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This makes it much easier to trade him.

1) Any acquiring team knows they have him for 2 trade deadlines guaranteed, and have at least one off season to negotiate an extension.

2) For Buffalo this increases the return as a signed player always returns more.

I mean ultimately Buffalo could keep him and send him at the trade deadline, but the off season is the time when you are going to get the best return so why wait? Even though he has been healthy for a few seasons now, there is always the lingering doubt and if you are Buffalo do you really want to take that chance if you don't have to?
While I agree with number 1, in regards to number 2, this most definitely does not increase the return for Buffalo. Acquiring team would have wanted longer term extension. Lessons return for Sabres. Would have given more to have Byram locked down long term if a team wanted him.
There was no guarantee the acquiring team could have extended him long term.

when I say increased return I'm not talking a marquee prospect or anything like that, but now it likely gets them an additional pick or a better prospect. Instead of a teams 10th best, it increases it to the 8th or so, instead of a 3rd rounder a 2nd rounder. He is signed for 2 years and that will always increase the return from an unsigned player.
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Re: Byrum Extended

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TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 09:18 am
noted wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:42 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:29 am
Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This makes it much easier to trade him.

1) Any acquiring team knows they have him for 2 trade deadlines guaranteed, and have at least one off season to negotiate an extension.

2) For Buffalo this increases the return as a signed player always returns more.

I mean ultimately Buffalo could keep him and send him at the trade deadline, but the off season is the time when you are going to get the best return so why wait? Even though he has been healthy for a few seasons now, there is always the lingering doubt and if you are Buffalo do you really want to take that chance if you don't have to?
While I agree with number 1, in regards to number 2, this most definitely does not increase the return for Buffalo. Acquiring team would have wanted longer term extension. Lessons return for Sabres. Would have given more to have Byram locked down long term if a team wanted him.
There was no guarantee the acquiring team could have extended him long term.

when I say increased return I'm not talking a marquee prospect or anything like that, but now it likely gets them an additional pick or a better prospect. Instead of a teams 10th best, it increases it to the 8th or so, instead of a 3rd rounder a 2nd rounder. He is signed for 2 years and that will always increase the return from an unsigned player.
The acquiring team was always guaranteed two years of control signed or not. What this deal took away was the ability to work out a long term deal which brings the trade value of the player down.
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Re: Byrum Extended

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Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 09:33 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 09:18 am
noted wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:42 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:29 am
Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This makes it much easier to trade him.

1) Any acquiring team knows they have him for 2 trade deadlines guaranteed, and have at least one off season to negotiate an extension.

2) For Buffalo this increases the return as a signed player always returns more.

I mean ultimately Buffalo could keep him and send him at the trade deadline, but the off season is the time when you are going to get the best return so why wait? Even though he has been healthy for a few seasons now, there is always the lingering doubt and if you are Buffalo do you really want to take that chance if you don't have to?
While I agree with number 1, in regards to number 2, this most definitely does not increase the return for Buffalo. Acquiring team would have wanted longer term extension. Lessons return for Sabres. Would have given more to have Byram locked down long term if a team wanted him.
There was no guarantee the acquiring team could have extended him long term.

when I say increased return I'm not talking a marquee prospect or anything like that, but now it likely gets them an additional pick or a better prospect. Instead of a teams 10th best, it increases it to the 8th or so, instead of a 3rd rounder a 2nd rounder. He is signed for 2 years and that will always increase the return from an unsigned player.
The acquiring team was always guaranteed two years of control signed or not. What this deal took away was the ability to work out a long term deal which brings the trade value of the player down.
Control yes, but no guarantee of long term. He certainly wasn't signing an 8 year term with Buffalo and teams don't seem to be lining up to trade for him at this point.

Getting him under contract before arbitration was the best move for Buffalo.
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Re: Byrum Extended

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TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 09:59 am
Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 09:33 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 09:18 am
noted wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:42 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 15 Jul 2025 08:29 am
Walter Sobchak00 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:50 pm it'll be 2 x 6.5

I'd put money on him being dealt before the season starts
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
39m
This will be 2 x $6.25M
Quote
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
·
1h
Hearing Buffalo and Bowen Byram will avoid arbitration, they are closing in on a new deal.

How.much???

Just my opinion but it doesn't make sense to sign him to a 2 year deal and then trade him. The acquiring team would have wanted to sign him to a longer term.. his value goes down with this deal in place.

Next off season when an acquiring team can extend him is when he's dealt is my bet.
This makes it much easier to trade him.

1) Any acquiring team knows they have him for 2 trade deadlines guaranteed, and have at least one off season to negotiate an extension.

2) For Buffalo this increases the return as a signed player always returns more.

I mean ultimately Buffalo could keep him and send him at the trade deadline, but the off season is the time when you are going to get the best return so why wait? Even though he has been healthy for a few seasons now, there is always the lingering doubt and if you are Buffalo do you really want to take that chance if you don't have to?
While I agree with number 1, in regards to number 2, this most definitely does not increase the return for Buffalo. Acquiring team would have wanted longer term extension. Lessons return for Sabres. Would have given more to have Byram locked down long term if a team wanted him.
There was no guarantee the acquiring team could have extended him long term.

when I say increased return I'm not talking a marquee prospect or anything like that, but now it likely gets them an additional pick or a better prospect. Instead of a teams 10th best, it increases it to the 8th or so, instead of a 3rd rounder a 2nd rounder. He is signed for 2 years and that will always increase the return from an unsigned player.
The acquiring team was always guaranteed two years of control signed or not. What this deal took away was the ability to work out a long term deal which brings the trade value of the player down.
Control yes, but no guarantee of long term. He certainly wasn't signing an 8 year term with Buffalo and teams don't seem to be lining up to trade for him at this point.

Getting him under contract before arbitration was the best move for Buffalo.
They could have worked out an extension as a part of the trade, that's now off the table which will negatively impact his trade value.

By signing him pre arbitration Buffalo is betting his value will go up next off season, I just don't see a scenario Byram isn't on the Sabres' roster until a minimum of the trade deadline but more realistically until after July 1st 2026.
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