OT: Junior Caminero, bad trades

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OT: Junior Caminero, bad trades

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We all like to lament bad trades made and not made…

I’m pretty confident that the odds are high that the Guardians trade of an 18 year old Junior Caminero for Tobias Myers… who they ended up designating for assignment… may go down as their worst ever.

Caminero is a beast.
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Re: OT: Junior Caminero, bad trades

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An Old Friend wrote: 14 Jul 2025 20:58 pm We all like to lament bad trades made and not made…

I’m pretty confident that the odds are high that the Guardians trade of an 18 year old Junior Caminero for Tobias Myers… who they ended up designating for assignment… may go down as their worst ever.

Caminero is a beast.
Agree.
Dodgers traded Yordan Alvarez for RP Josh Fields. Ouch
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The Guardindians have some notably horrible trades in their history.

Traded Shoeless Joe & Roger Maris

Brian Giles trade was a corker too…
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Quincy Varnish wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:16 pm The Guardindians have some notably horrible trades in their history.

Traded Shoeless Joe & Roger Maris

Brian Giles trade was a corker too…
Yeah, imagine Giles still there with Lofton and Manny in the outfield. That team was so loaded.
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Re: OT: Junior Caminero, bad trades

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Which is why the Cardinals should be trading as many vets as they can for young prospects. We know the vets won’t be around by the time the Csrds sniff a playoff run so shoot for the stars in toolsy prospects in low minors in other organizations.
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Re: OT: Junior Caminero, bad trades

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swatski wrote: 14 Jul 2025 22:55 pm Which is why the Cardinals should be trading as many vets as they can for young prospects. We know the vets won’t be around by the time the Csrds sniff a playoff run so shoot for the stars in toolsy prospects in low minors in other organizations.
Only if we properly scout those prospects and target them.

And then it doesn't matter if we trade a vet or trade Gorman or trade Graceffo to get that prospect. If its the right one, just get it done. Don't just take random chances on the shotgun approach and hope it hits.
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An Old Friend wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:53 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:16 pm The Guardindians have some notably horrible trades in their history.

Traded Shoeless Joe & Roger Maris

Brian Giles trade was a corker too…
Yeah, imagine Giles still there with Lofton and Manny in the outfield. That team was so loaded.
Hey remember when Moneyball told us how valuable Ricardo Rincon was?
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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 14 Jul 2025 23:44 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:53 pm
Quincy Varnish wrote: 14 Jul 2025 21:16 pm The Guardindians have some notably horrible trades in their history.

Traded Shoeless Joe & Roger Maris

Brian Giles trade was a corker too…
Yeah, imagine Giles still there with Lofton and Manny in the outfield. That team was so loaded.
Hey remember when Moneyball told us how valuable Ricardo Rincon was?
Hey Rincon might have gotten a ring with us :wink:

Appeared in 5 games for us in 2006 with a 10.80 ERA 8O 8O
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swatski wrote: 14 Jul 2025 22:55 pm Which is why the Cardinals should be trading as many vets as they can for young prospects. We know the vets won’t be around by the time the Csrds sniff a playoff run so shoot for the stars in toolsy prospects in low minors in other organizations.
Completely agree. You’ll win some and lose some but you’ll lose all you don’t try.

In theory the more you apply this principal they better you get.
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Cards worst trade was Carleton to the Phillies for Rick Wise over a contract dispute which the difference was a mere pittance by today's standards.
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Almost every other MLB team has a collection of athletic Latin players……except Cards
Mo is a historic failure.
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redbirdfan51 wrote: 15 Jul 2025 07:52 am Cards worst trade was Carleton to the Phillies for Rick Wise over a contract dispute which the difference was a mere pittance by today's standards.
It was a pittance then…..Gussie was being a hard (bleep)
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