Many of you will be eating crow

[45s]

In 30 cities around the country, there are followers of the local club who that believe their pick is a “can’t miss”.

They won’t all be right…

[rockondlouie]

What have the Cardinals need?

A starter, along w/S. Gray, who gets strikeouts!

This kid could be the answer, let's hope he is.

I think under Bloom/Cerfolio we see him no later than May, perhaps even on OD if he has a great spring.

Lunacy.
They will not rush this kid. They should not rush this kid.
You need to get your enthusiasm under control, brother.

Ha!

You aren't "rushing" an SEC college pitcher w/his kind of stuff satch!

Lunacy would be keeping him in the minor leagues if he shows this spring that he's got the secondary pitches to get major league hitters out.

I hope that kind of thinking goes out the door w/Mo.

[Basil Shabazz]

What have the Cardinals need?

A starter, along w/S. Gray, who gets strikeouts!

This kid could be the answer, let's hope he is.

I think under Bloom/Cerfolio we see him no later than May, perhaps even on OD if he has a great spring.

Lunacy.
They will not rush this kid. They should not rush this kid.
You need to get your enthusiasm under control, brother.

Ha!

You aren't "rushing" an SEC college pitcher w/his kind of stuff satch!

Lunacy would be keeping him in the minor leagues if he shows this spring that he's got the secondary pitches to get major league hitters out.

I hope that kind of thinking goes out the door w/Mo.

^this

Same applies to JJW. All American college talent that is MLB ready isn't being rushed when they get to the show in months to a year.

It means you drafted the right guy.

[Bubble4427]

SMH....I sure hope so!
I had no idea who the Cards should pick but I have seen Doyle listed as a top 5 prospect in most rankings.
However....in the less than 3 hours since being drafted I have learned from Cards Talk that:
* He may have an eating disorder?
* He may have attitude issues?
* He may have no secondary pitches?
* He may have temper problems or even be a borderline psychopath?

Yikes!!!
What does that say about the guys ranked behind him?????

You should ask yourself what that says about Cards Talk....

[rockondlouie]

What have the Cardinals need?

A starter, along w/S. Gray, who gets strikeouts!

This kid could be the answer, let's hope he is.

I think under Bloom/Cerfolio we see him no later than May, perhaps even on OD if he has a great spring.

Lunacy.
They will not rush this kid. They should not rush this kid.
You need to get your enthusiasm under control, brother.

Ha!

You aren't "rushing" an SEC college pitcher w/his kind of stuff satch!

Lunacy would be keeping him in the minor leagues if he shows this spring that he's got the secondary pitches to get major league hitters out.

I hope that kind of thinking goes out the door w/Mo.

^this

Same applies to JJW. All American college talent that is MLB ready isn't being rushed when they get to the show in months to a year.

It means you drafted the right guy.

I'd have JJW up here no later than Sept 1st, sooner if he keeps crushing AAA.

These two are TOP LEVEL college talents, the likes of which we haven't seen here since JD Drew!

If they show they're ready, then the sooner the better.

[Clubmaker2]

You set people up for success, not failure. This guy is a hot head. He needs to do some minor league pitching and experience some things , on that stage .instead of the big stage. Teams baiting him, loss of pitch control in a pro game etc etc..... Also, I dont see how you have a feasible season long roster if you count on this guy as one of the starting 5 opening day. He has to be the 6th starter. And it seems like if you had him on roster on opening day, he would go what, 4 innings in his starts? there are multiple good reasons to start him in the minors.

[Cusecards]

SMH....I sure hope so!
I had no idea who the Cards should pick but I have seen Doyle listed as a top 5 prospect in most rankings.
However....in the less than 3 hours since being drafted I have learned from Cards Talk that:
* He may have an eating disorder?
* He may have attitude issues?
* He may have no secondary pitches?
* He may have temper problems or even be a borderline psychopath?

Yikes!!!
What does that say about the guys ranked behind him?????

You should ask yourself what that says about Cards Talk....

LOL that is implied.

[BrockFloodMaris]

The Cardinals were looking for some pitching attitude too. They drafted some.

After watching some of Liam Doyle's videos, his hyper competitive on-field persona reminds me of Roger Clemens in his prime. I would be fine with a left-handed version of RC.

[Talkin' Baseball]

A- April, May
AA-June, July
AAA- August, Sept
2027 Work stoppage- then MLB
This is actually an aggressive schedule

[Basil Shabazz]

A- April, May
AA-June, July
AAA- August, Sept
2027 Work stoppage- then MLB
This is actually an aggressive schedule

Lol

[riff raff]

A- April, May
AA-June, July
AAA- August, Sept
2027 Work stoppage- then MLB
This is actually an aggressive schedule

Starting rotation after the all-star break, let's go !

[ClassicO]

SMH....I sure hope so!
I had no idea who the Cards should pick but I have seen Doyle listed as a top 5 prospect in most rankings.
However....in the less than 3 hours since being drafted I have learned from Cards Talk that:
* He may have an eating disorder?
* He may have attitude issues?
* He may have no secondary pitches?
* He may have temper problems or even be a borderline psychopath?

Yikes!!!
What does that say about the guys ranked behind him?????

I read that scouts think his secondary pitches are fine. I also saw where he is near mlb ready (lets see). No idea about his food consumption. But I hope he is a nut job. This team needs some real attitude.

Some goof has a thread today that he had to lose 19 pounds his last season LOL.
No reason to rush him of course.
If he stinks he’ll be called a “nut job”.
If he’s great he’ll be called “colorful”!

Sounds like a closer to me.

Could be?
I think we can give him at least a few weeks to decide his future?

No. It's decided. . Based on years of watching him pitch.

[Cusecards]

SMH....I sure hope so!
I had no idea who the Cards should pick but I have seen Doyle listed as a top 5 prospect in most rankings.
However....in the less than 3 hours since being drafted I have learned from Cards Talk that:
* He may have an eating disorder?
* He may have attitude issues?
* He may have no secondary pitches?
* He may have temper problems or even be a borderline psychopath?

Yikes!!!
What does that say about the guys ranked behind him?????

I read that scouts think his secondary pitches are fine. I also saw where he is near mlb ready (lets see). No idea about his food consumption. But I hope he is a nut job. This team needs some real attitude.

Some goof has a thread today that he had to lose 19 pounds his last season LOL.
No reason to rush him of course.
If he stinks he’ll be called a “nut job”.
If he’s great he’ll be called “colorful”!

Sounds like a closer to me.

Could be?
I think we can give him at least a few weeks to decide his future?

No. It's decided. . Based on years of watching him pitch.

LOL

[cardstatman]

I don't mind rushing pitchers. They mostly just execute their same few pitches over and over.

I think rushing hitters is often foolish. There are few who have no flaws that MLB pitchers can immediately find to exploit.

It is hard to make major adjustments while facing MLB pitchers and playing in games that count.

As a GM, your job is to draft/sign, develop, and then maximize the value each player contributes to the MLB team. It is not to promote guys as early as possible so they can reach arbitration and free agency sooner even if they hurt the MLB team's results for much of their 3 minimum salary years.

[Basil Shabazz]

Regardless of age or tenure, someone is not being rushed if they are ready.

When Doyle shows he is ready, he should be moved up accordingly. There should be no preset or arbitrary timeline. Every player and situation should be viewed and judged separately and independently.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Regardless of age or tenure, someone is not being rushed if they are ready.

When Doyle shows he is ready, he should be moved up accordingly. There should be no preset or arbitrary timeline. Every player and situation should be viewed and judged separately and independently.

I’d agree. Do you think they operate with a matrix. Guided by time, not results.