Posted this thread question two days ago on Doyle

[ramfandan]

Would Tenn. P Liam Doyle be too volatile for Cardinals or not ? July 11th 2:20 pm post

I live about 75 miles from Knoxville and have seen TV reports plus sports talk radio discussing Doyle's temperament on the mound. Here are some comments on Doyle :

Liam Doyle, a pitcher for the Tennessee Volunteers, is known to have a fiery and intense temperament on the field. His competitive nature is evident in several incidents and comments about his behavior:
He was suspended for two games following an altercation at home plate during a game against Auburn where he exchanged words with an opposing player after tagging him out.
Doyle confirmed he used expletives towards a Wake Forest hitter during a game, a moment that went viral and prompted a conversation with his grandmother about his language.
His coach, Tony Vitello, has described Doyle's on-field demeanor as being "like a guy in a bar fight," showcasing a level of intensity and assertiveness.
Some observers, like Rob Friedman, have even described his pitching persona as having a "psychopath" quality, highlighting his intense focus and aggression.
While his passion is evident, Doyle's behavior can be seen as either a fiery competitive spirit or an issue with controlling his temper, depending on individual perspective.

So as the comments suggest .. Would Cardinals view Doyle as fiery spirit OR a kid with temper /anger management issues ?



Guess we have the answer from the Cardinals .. Yes, the Cardinals wanted him !

[Ozziesfan41]

Would Tenn. P Liam Doyle be too volatile for Cardinals or not ? July 11th 2:20 pm post

I live about 75 miles from Knoxville and have seen TV reports plus sports talk radio discussing Doyle's temperament on the mound. Here are some comments on Doyle :

Liam Doyle, a pitcher for the Tennessee Volunteers, is known to have a fiery and intense temperament on the field. His competitive nature is evident in several incidents and comments about his behavior:
He was suspended for two games following an altercation at home plate during a game against Auburn where he exchanged words with an opposing player after tagging him out.
Doyle confirmed he used expletives towards a Wake Forest hitter during a game, a moment that went viral and prompted a conversation with his grandmother about his language.
His coach, Tony Vitello, has described Doyle's on-field demeanor as being "like a guy in a bar fight," showcasing a level of intensity and assertiveness.
Some observers, like Rob Friedman, have even described his pitching persona as having a "psychopath" quality, highlighting his intense focus and aggression.
While his passion is evident, Doyle's behavior can be seen as either a fiery competitive spirit or an issue with controlling his temper, depending on individual perspective.

So as the comments suggest .. Would Cardinals view Doyle as fiery spirit OR a kid with temper /anger management issues ?



Guess we have the answer from the Cardinals .. Yes, the Cardinals wanted him !

Oh great a head case on top of it

[RunSup]

Bob Gibson

[Talkin' Baseball]

Haven't seen him. The print description made me think of Carlos Zambrano.

[Jatalk]

Bob Gibson

Not Bob Gibson. He gave respect and got respect. This kid can be a (bleep)

[Absolut]

Bob Gibson

Not Bob Gibson. He gave respect and got respect. This kid can be a (bleep)

Andujar?

[Jatalk]

Bob Gibson

Not Bob Gibson. He gave respect and got respect. This kid can be a (bleep)

Andujar?

No he just had antics. This guy could be a real problem.

[Clubmaker2]

So Doyle questions are..

1 - not bat shirt crazy between the ears
2 - can alter closer type mechanics to build to 7 inning etc MLB starter mechanics
3- can develop secondary pitches
4 - develops secondary pitches before cards turn him into Trevor Rosenthal and rush to MLB


All this and he is rated 4th pitcher in the draft

[RunSup]

Bob Gibson

Not Bob Gibson. He gave respect and got respect. This kid can be a (bleep)

Just that Gibby hated his opponents when was pitching. Also falling off the mound when throwing hard. Doyle falls off to the left.

Doyle's starts in a pennant race should result in scrums like this. Of course we don't have Yadi anymore.

https://youtu.be/5EAVA0parWc

[ramfandan]

Haven't seen him. The print description made me think of Carlos Zambrano.

Since you stated you have not seen him , here is a link for you on some highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFWW0ffsIPw

[Jatalk]

Bob Gibson

Not Bob Gibson. He gave respect and got respect. This kid can be a (bleep)

Just that Gibby hated his opponents when was pitching. Also falling off the mound when throwing hard. Doyle falls off to the left.

Doyle's starts in a pennant race should result in scrums like this. Of course we don't have Yadi anymore.

https://youtu.be/5EAVA0parWc

Gibson and Yadi totally different attitude. Big difference in hating batters and showing total disrespect.

[RunSup]

Bob Gibson

Not Bob Gibson. He gave respect and got respect. This kid can be a (bleep)

Just that Gibby hated his opponents when was pitching. Also falling off the mound when throwing hard. Doyle falls off to the left.

Doyle's starts in a pennant race should result in scrums like this. Of course we don't have Yadi anymore.

https://youtu.be/5EAVA0parWc

Gibson and Yadi totally different attitude. Big difference in hating batters and showing total disrespect.

I won't worry about until it's a problem in a real professional game. He competes and doesn't back down. That's good. The rest is maturity and self control.

[Clubmaker2]

plus side may be he is a real gamer who wants the ball at crunch time and might excel at crunch time

[Ozziesfan41]

Since he is a cardinal he will be considered a fiery competitor who is passionate if he pitched for another team he would be considered a head case and a jerk. Now if he dyes his hair some will consider him a head case because of that

[Just Whit]

Bob Gibson

Not Bob Gibson. He gave respect and got respect. This kid can be a (bleep)

If he wasn't a great pitcher people wouldn't have respected him either.

[spfldan]

best comaprison is Al Harbosky ! That crazy leftly was pretty good and wears a red jacket. His attitude was pure entertainment for Cards fans back then. Fans (this one included) loved him.