GDT : Cards vs. Braves (7/12) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Braves (7/12) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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cardstatman wrote: 12 Jul 2025 16:08 pm Even with the recent emergence of O'Brien, Granillo, Svanson, Liberatore, McGreevy, this pitching staff is not playoff caliber, which means the team is not playoff caliber.

We have got to assemble some better pitching to get this vehicle out of neutral.

RE24
+10.44 Gray
+8.22 Maton - 2026 free agent
+6.29 Romero - 2027 free agent
+5.59 Leahy
+5.44 O'Brien
+4.80 Helsley - 2026 free agent
+3.38 Matz - 2026 free agent
+3.11 Granillo
+2.67 Svanson
+1.26 Liberatore
+1.25 McGreevy
-2.27 Munoz
-2.36 Pallante
-6.70 Mikolas - 2026 free agent
-6.90 Roycroft
-7.25 Graceffo
-7.39 Fernandez
-8.14 Fedde - 2026 free agent
-11.61 King


Good news: Some the of worst pitchers (Mikolas, Fedde) are about to leave.
Bad news: Some of the better pitchers (Maton, Helsley, Romero, Matz) are about to leave.

With 6 pitchers leaving soon, they need to add about half of a pitching staff of good pitchers.
They have done a pretty decent job over the years getting BP arms.
Romero, Maton, etc were not high profile moves.
Fingers crossed on Graceffo, O’Brien, Svanson for the BP.
Pallante could also land back there.
The rotation needs to be rebuilt for 2025 heading into 2026.
We’ll see McGreevy get his shot after the break/deadline.
Probably won’t see Roby, Mathews, Hence until ST?
I wouldn’t push them.
If McGreevy establishes himself with Gray and Libby that’s a decent start.
Pallante could be a #5?
If MM/Matz/Fedde are all gone that’s a savings of $37M!
Although spending big $$ on pitching never seems to work for us and the injury risk makes me nervous.
More if you deal Helsley?
To me what they do with Helsley is the biggest story.
There will be chatter on Arenado but I think he’s here at least until the offseason.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Braves (7/12) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Bob Kunush wrote: 12 Jul 2025 17:33 pm Well, the game result stunk but the entertainment from the doom and gloomers on here never disappoints! This thread is always a hoot to read when anything bad happens in the game. With the bad beginning and ending to this game I knew this would be a fun read!
The "doom and gloomers" were once objects of ridicule and mockery as the Cardinals proved them wrong time and time again.

Not anymore. Now, they're the ones not detached from reality. You're living in the past, Robert.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Braves (7/12) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:43 am
OldRed wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:39 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:35 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:28 am
OldRed wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:25 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:08 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Jul 2025 10:56 am Warm day. Around 85 ish.
Actually overcast and low humidity, nice day

But Sunday looks like rain 11am-4pm

I wonder given the ASB would they just push the start time to 6pm?

You must live in the St. Louis area or haven't been outside today if you do.
Humidity
85%

It is very sultry.
Chesterfield

We've had a little sprinkle too, very cloudy but feels nice out and nowhere near "sultry" but could if the sun comes back out.
Front went thru, but it’s gonna stall sooner than later. Shouldn’t have any issues.
I worked outside all morning it is very sultry. Anytime you add the humidity and the temperature together and it is 150 or above it is considered sultry. Funny, but if you don't it is sultry you have a completely different body than anyone I know. I'm 17 miles from the ball park on the Illinois side of the Mississippi and it looks like it could pour any minute.

Currently: Feels Like
78°
Wind
W 9 mph
Humidity
79%
The front is just passing you. A west wind indicates it passed.
It ended up being a very nice afternoon. The front didn't make this far when I posted. I just wish they could have pulled it out.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Braves (7/12) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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OldRed wrote: 12 Jul 2025 18:23 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:43 am
OldRed wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:39 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:35 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:28 am
OldRed wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:25 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:08 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Jul 2025 10:56 am Warm day. Around 85 ish.
Actually overcast and low humidity, nice day

But Sunday looks like rain 11am-4pm

I wonder given the ASB would they just push the start time to 6pm?

You must live in the St. Louis area or haven't been outside today if you do.
Humidity
85%

It is very sultry.
Chesterfield

We've had a little sprinkle too, very cloudy but feels nice out and nowhere near "sultry" but could if the sun comes back out.
Front went thru, but it’s gonna stall sooner than later. Shouldn’t have any issues.
I worked outside all morning it is very sultry. Anytime you add the humidity and the temperature together and it is 150 or above it is considered sultry. Funny, but if you don't it is sultry you have a completely different body than anyone I know. I'm 17 miles from the ball park on the Illinois side of the Mississippi and it looks like it could pour any minute.

Currently: Feels Like
78°
Wind
W 9 mph
Humidity
79%
The front is just passing you. A west wind indicates it passed.
It ended up being a very nice afternoon. The front didn't make this far when I posted. I just wish they could have pulled it out.
Well, they pulled it out but then they stuck it back in.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Braves (7/12) ~ 1:15pm CDT

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Ordinary Man wrote: 12 Jul 2025 19:19 pm
OldRed wrote: 12 Jul 2025 18:23 pm
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:43 am
OldRed wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:39 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:35 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:28 am
OldRed wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:25 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Jul 2025 11:08 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 12 Jul 2025 10:56 am Warm day. Around 85 ish.
Actually overcast and low humidity, nice day

But Sunday looks like rain 11am-4pm

I wonder given the ASB would they just push the start time to 6pm?

You must live in the St. Louis area or haven't been outside today if you do.
Humidity
85%

It is very sultry.
Chesterfield

We've had a little sprinkle too, very cloudy but feels nice out and nowhere near "sultry" but could if the sun comes back out.
Front went thru, but it’s gonna stall sooner than later. Shouldn’t have any issues.
I worked outside all morning it is very sultry. Anytime you add the humidity and the temperature together and it is 150 or above it is considered sultry. Funny, but if you don't it is sultry you have a completely different body than anyone I know. I'm 17 miles from the ball park on the Illinois side of the Mississippi and it looks like it could pour any minute.

Currently: Feels Like
78°
Wind
W 9 mph
Humidity
79%
The front is just passing you. A west wind indicates it passed.
It ended up being a very nice afternoon. The front didn't make this far when I posted. I just wish they could have pulled it out.
Well, they pulled it out but then they stuck it back in.
lol
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