Didn't Ken Wilson do both TV and radio broadcasts?

[TAFKAP]

I remember the Wilson years being him on both TV and KMOX. The Wikipedia article has him listed as both, but with different color guys. Have no idea how that worked. I remember Ken Wilson and Joe Micheletti doing both. Is it just me?

[somni]

I remember the Wilson years being him on both TV and KMOX. The Wikipedia article has him listed as both, but with different color guys. Have no idea how that worked. I remember Ken Wilson and Joe Micheletti doing both. Is it just me?

I remember the Blues doing that as well. Not sure if it was with Wilson or even Dan Kelly. I just remember it's a little clunky. There's much more descriptions on radio, where TV is a different rhythm. Maybe this will work.

[Hazelwood72]

The Blues did simulcasts off and on for a long time. When we first started out, KMOX Radio and KPLR TV simulcast Dan Kelly and Gus Kyle doing the broadcasts.

Kelly was such a great play-by-play man that the simulcasts were pretty good. Occasionally, you’d hear a glitch during stoppages where the radio commercial wasn’t coordinated with the TV commercial. But the play-by-play was always crisp.

That’s how good Dan Kelly was.

[moose-and-squirrel]

also remember back then not all games were televised

[TAFKAP]

also remember back then not all games were televised

You know, I didn't think about that. Good call, thanks.

[Pink Freud]

also remember back then not all games were televised

You know, I didn't think about that. Good call, thanks.

In the Blues' first few seasons, they only televised a rare few home games*** and about a dozen road games during the regular season, but all of the road games in the playoffs. During Season One, they had Jack Buck (radio) and Jay Randolph (TV) on the PBP. Jack knew he was out of his element, and made a beeline to talk with the Montreal Canadiens about Dan Kelly (then only 32) when they came to St. Louis for the Finals.

During those first two seasons, the telecasts were sponsored by Falstaff Beer, featuring two cowboys on the range, Gabe and Walker, in their commercials. "Gabe" was Sam Elliott. In those early years, the Falstaff "Old Pro" --- an animated, portly referee --- was their sports symbol in ads.

This has been a tough week for iconic hockey broadcasters: John Kelly out in St. Louis as they simulcast with Chris Kerber, who is now the franchise's all-time leader in years at the mic; Joe Micheletti retires from the New York media, replaced by Dave Maloney; Sam Rosen also out in NY, replaced by Kenny Albert. If any NHL team wants to make a change on the mic, there's a lot of talent available.

I really enjoyed John Kelly on the Blues games; not so much his lisping brother Danny for a couple of years; strictly a nepo baby hire. I completely understand Ken Wilson's adieu to St. Louis rant "If your name isn't Kelly or Buck, you'll never be the #1 guy in this town." Just ask Bob Carpenter, who is retiring after this last season as the Washington Nationals' announcer for 20 years, and who dearly wanted the Cardinals job.


*** One of the strangest locally-televised games was at the Arena vs. the Boston Bruins on Feb. 7, '68. The Bruins led 5-4 late in the game when Al Arbour appeared to score the tying goal with a shot that hit the inside crossbar. While the Blues raised their sticks and congratulated Arbour, the Bruins thought the puck had hit the outer crossbar and headed up ice, with Johnny McKenzie scoring on Glenn Hall, So, without video review available, the sole referee ruled it was a Blues non-goal, and a Bruins goal. It so enraged the Blues that mild-mannered Arbour and fiery Bob Plager got misconducts, and Plager added a game misconduct. Boston won 6-4.

[Hazelwood72]

also remember back then not all games were televised

You know, I didn't think about that. Good call, thanks.

In the Blues' first few seasons, they only televised a rare few home games*** and about a dozen road games during the regular season, but all of the road games in the playoffs. During Season One, they had Jack Buck (radio) and Jay Randolph (TV) on the PBP. Jack knew he was out of his element, and made a beeline to talk with the Montreal Canadiens about Dan Kelly (then only 32) when they came to St. Louis for the Finals.

During those first two seasons, the telecasts were sponsored by Falstaff Beer, featuring two cowboys on the range, Gabe and Walker, in their commercials. "Gabe" was Sam Elliott. In those early years, the Falstaff "Old Pro" --- an animated, portly referee --- was their sports symbol in ads.

This has been a tough week for iconic hockey broadcasters: John Kelly out in St. Louis as they simulcast with Chris Kerber, who is now the franchise's all-time leader in years at the mic; Joe Micheletti retires from the New York media, replaced by Dave Maloney; Sam Rosen also out in NY, replaced by Kenny Albert. If any NHL team wants to make a change on the mic, there's a lot of talent available.

I really enjoyed John Kelly on the Blues games; not so much his lisping brother Danny for a couple of years; strictly a nepo baby hire. I completely understand Ken Wilson's adieu to St. Louis rant "If your name isn't Kelly or Buck, you'll never be the #1 guy in this town." Just ask Bob Carpenter, who is retiring after this last season as the Washington Nationals' announcer for 20 years, and who dearly wanted the Cardinals job.


*** One of the strangest locally-televised games was at the Arena vs. the Boston Bruins on Feb. 7, '68. The Bruins led 5-4 late in the game when Al Arbour appeared to score the tying goal with a shot that hit the inside crossbar. While the Blues raised their sticks and congratulated Arbour, the Bruins thought the puck had hit the outer crossbar and headed up ice, with Johnny McKenzie scoring on Glenn Hall, So, without video review available, the sole referee ruled it was a Blues non-goal, and a Bruins goal. It so enraged the Blues that mild-mannered Arbour and fiery Bob Plager got misconducts, and Plager added a game misconduct. Boston won 6-4.

LOL, I totally forgot about Gabe and Walker on those Falstaff commercials! Remember the old “Falstaff - The Thirst Slaker!” jingle? I never knew what “slaking” was until those ads.

One of the reasons why Jack Buck sought out Dan Kelly was because Scotty Bowman, the young Blues coach, was well aware of Kelly’s work on CBC broadcasts in Canada and suggested to Buck that he should talk to Kelly.

BTW, I always regretted seeing Bob Carpenter go. Don’t know why they jettisoned him for John Rooney other than Rooney and Buck went way back. But Carpenter was a hometown boy and Buck was well aware of his talents as well. Personally I much preferred Carpenter over Rooney.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

also remember back then not all games were televised

You know, I didn't think about that. Good call, thanks.

In the Blues' first few seasons, they only televised a rare few home games*** and about a dozen road games during the regular season, but all of the road games in the playoffs. During Season One, they had Jack Buck (radio) and Jay Randolph (TV) on the PBP. Jack knew he was out of his element, and made a beeline to talk with the Montreal Canadiens about Dan Kelly (then only 32) when they came to St. Louis for the Finals.

During those first two seasons, the telecasts were sponsored by Falstaff Beer, featuring two cowboys on the range, Gabe and Walker, in their commercials. "Gabe" was Sam Elliott. In those early years, the Falstaff "Old Pro" --- an animated, portly referee --- was their sports symbol in ads.

This has been a tough week for iconic hockey broadcasters: John Kelly out in St. Louis as they simulcast with Chris Kerber, who is now the franchise's all-time leader in years at the mic; Joe Micheletti retires from the New York media, replaced by Dave Maloney; Sam Rosen also out in NY, replaced by Kenny Albert. If any NHL team wants to make a change on the mic, there's a lot of talent available.

I really enjoyed John Kelly on the Blues games; not so much his lisping brother Danny for a couple of years; strictly a nepo baby hire. I completely understand Ken Wilson's adieu to St. Louis rant "If your name isn't Kelly or Buck, you'll never be the #1 guy in this town." Just ask Bob Carpenter, who is retiring after this last season as the Washington Nationals' announcer for 20 years, and who dearly wanted the Cardinals job.


*** One of the strangest locally-televised games was at the Arena vs. the Boston Bruins on Feb. 7, '68. The Bruins led 5-4 late in the game when Al Arbour appeared to score the tying goal with a shot that hit the inside crossbar. While the Blues raised their sticks and congratulated Arbour, the Bruins thought the puck had hit the outer crossbar and headed up ice, with Johnny McKenzie scoring on Glenn Hall, So, without video review available, the sole referee ruled it was a Blues non-goal, and a Bruins goal. It so enraged the Blues that mild-mannered Arbour and fiery Bob Plager got misconducts, and Plager added a game misconduct. Boston won 6-4.

LOL, I totally forgot about Gabe and Walker on those Falstaff commercials! Remember the old “Falstaff - The Thirst Slaker!” jingle? I never knew what “slaking” was until those ads.

One of the reasons why Jack Buck sought out Dan Kelly was because Scotty Bowman, the young Blues coach, was well aware of Kelly’s work on CBC broadcasts in Canada and suggested to Buck that he should talk to Kelly.

BTW, I always regretted seeing Bob Carpenter go. Don’t know why they jettisoned him for John Rooney other than Rooney and Buck went way back. But Carpenter was a hometown boy and Buck was well aware of his talents as well. Personally I much preferred Carpenter over Rooney.

Sam Elliott played Walker in those ads. Start of his being typecast as a cowboy.

[leedog68]

For me, I will like this better. I hate to see JK go, but this will be the end of John Ham (or whoever) being interviewed while the game is on, and a split screen. It will need to be play by play all the way through for radio.

[Hazelwood72]

For me, I will like this better. I hate to see JK go, but this will be the end of John Ham (or whoever) being interviewed while the game is on, and a split screen. It will need to be play by play all the way through for radio.

+1. I’m tired of all the in-game interviews. The only person talking after the puck is dropped should be the play-by-play man, with the color man interjections only SPARINGLY for an important point. Hockey’s too fast for the color man to interject jabber while play goes on. (My only criticism of Panger, BTW). He should chime in during stoppages. And save the (bleep) interviews for in between periods.

[Pink Freud]

Believe it or not, I've never heard Chris Kerber call a Blues game, so this next season will be interesting for me. Geez, all the guys who've been behind the mic for PBP or color --- this is just a partial list --- for the Blues is a history lesson:

Jack Buck
Jay Randolph
Dan Kelly
Gus Kyle
Hal Kelly
John Kelly
Danny Kelly
Ken Wilson
Eli Gold
Ron Jacober
Ron Oakes
Bruce Affleck
Joe Micheletti
Bernie Federko
Chris Kerber
Darren Pang

NOTE: To this day I still believe the Kiel/Savvis/Scottrade/Enterprise/Whatever Center should have been named the Dan Kelly Arena from Day One, and never changed.

[SRV1990]

Believe it or not, I've never heard Chris Kerber call a Blues game, so this next season will be interesting for me. Geez, all the guys who've been behind the mic for PBP or color --- this is just a partial list --- for the Blues is a history lesson:

Jack Buck
Jay Randolph
Dan Kelly
Gus Kyle
Hal Kelly
John Kelly
Danny Kelly
Ken Wilson
Eli Gold
Ron Jacober
Ron Oakes
Bruce Affleck
Joe Micheletti
Bernie Federko
Chris Kerber
Darren Pang

NOTE: To this day I still believe the Kiel/Savvis/Scottrade/Enterprise/Whatever Center should have been named the Dan Kelly Arena from Day One, and never changed.

***Kelly Chase

And as much as it would have been great, naming rights bring in big dollars, and teams like the Blues need every penny they can get.