Herrera taking balls as OF in Memphis

[Cusecards]

Good to see the Cardinals doing that which I was first and best to understand, 3 years ago when I correctly advised precisely this move.
My perfect branding of Super Slo Mo confirmed yet again.
Best of luck to Herrera - this will unquestionably enhance his career

Melville reaction every time .jpeg

“Which I was first and best to understand”
And
“My perfect branding”

But
“Never about me always about the game”!
ME-ville at his best never fails to get a laugh!
Easy
Obvious
Correct

[JuanAgosto]

In practice from Willy M.

Do you think maybe try him in LF ?
Replace Noot thus keeping DH spot open for Gorman
And possible Pozo/Pages combo C/DH sometimes too.

Let's slow the roll and see if he can do it. Kid gets hurt running bases and has never played the OF.

I agree, Scouty. Leave him at DH. His legs seem to be an issue this year.

Playing a few games in the outfield is way easier on his legs than playing a few games at catcher. Lets not get overdramatic. And he probably still will dh a lot. Just occasionally work in outfield work. Increase cardinals flexibility. And giving saggese and herrera outfield reps is signaling that walker and noot actually need to do something or we will try other options.(although saggese has lost steam at the moment)

Im not being overly dramatic. The guy has a hamstring issue. So lets have him run around the outfield! Plus it creates another outfield option for Mo and Lil oli to screw up the lineup even more. This only works if those dumb[ash] trade one or more of the already underperforming outfielders they already have. Otherwise, Mo and Marmol will cock it all up even more.

[Strummer Jones]

I see no harm in this. I would also assume that the only time Herrera would see the grass would be when VSII is quarterbacking in CF, so with his range, that helps Herrera cover less ground until his hammies get stronger.

[Wattage]

In practice from Willy M.

Do you think maybe try him in LF ?
Replace Noot thus keeping DH spot open for Gorman
And possible Pozo/Pages combo C/DH sometimes too.

Let's slow the roll and see if he can do it. Kid gets hurt running bases and has never played the OF.

I agree, Scouty. Leave him at DH. His legs seem to be an issue this year.

Playing a few games in the outfield is way easier on his legs than playing a few games at catcher. Lets not get overdramatic. And he probably still will dh a lot. Just occasionally work in outfield work. Increase cardinals flexibility. And giving saggese and herrera outfield reps is signaling that walker and noot actually need to do something or we will try other options.(although saggese has lost steam at the moment)

Im not being overly dramatic. The guy has a hamstring issue. So lets have him run around the outfield! Plus it creates another outfield option for Mo and Lil oli to screw up the lineup even more. This only works if those dumb[ash] trade one or more of the already underperforming outfielders they already have. Otherwise, Mo and Marmol will cock it all up even more.

Better to run in outfield than squat as catcher.
To me, the fact that herrera and and saggese recently took outfield balls means that the org doesnt want to be 100% committed to walker and maybe nootbaar in outfield and wants other options if they decide to move on.

[Goldfan]

Cards development brain trust

Power Bat
Can’t throw at C
Can’t handle P well
Issues with legs

We’ll keep him at CATCHER!!!!

Challenge…..Please someone with a GREAT memory take me back to a time when this org was PROACTIVE about anything. Good Luck

[sikeston bulldog2]

Seems taking balls in the outfield would indicate a healed player.

[scoutyjones2]

In practice from Willy M.

Do you think maybe try him in LF ?
Replace Noot thus keeping DH spot open for Gorman
And possible Pozo/Pages combo C/DH sometimes too.

Let's slow the roll and see if he can do it. Kid gets hurt running bases and has never played the OF.

I agree, Scouty. Leave him at DH. His legs seem to be an issue this year.

Playing a few games in the outfield is way easier on his legs than playing a few games at catcher. Lets not get overdramatic. And he probably still will dh a lot. Just occasionally work in outfield work. Increase cardinals flexibility. And giving saggese and herrera outfield reps is signaling that walker and noot actually need to do something or we will try other options.(although saggese has lost steam at the moment)

Im not being overly dramatic. The guy has a hamstring issue. So lets have him run around the outfield! Plus it creates another outfield option for Mo and Lil oli to screw up the lineup even more. This only works if those dumb[ash] trade one or more of the already underperforming outfielders they already have. Otherwise, Mo and Marmol will cock it all up even more.

Better to run in outfield than squat as catcher.
To me, the fact that herrera and and saggese recently took outfield balls means that the org doesnt want to be 100% committed to walker and maybe nootbaar in outfield and wants other options if they decide to move on.

How bout, it is more about Just Worthless being just that?

Cards need a RH OF bats...it's that simple

[JDW]

Absolutely see how Herrera does as an OF'er, that's been a no brainer idea from early on.
As long as Contreras is here, Burly's best fit is as the DH.
Just b/c Herrera has had a couple injuries this year doesn't mean much. We don't know yet how he will hold up as a position starter anywhere.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Absolutely see how Herrera does as an OF'er, that's been a no brainer idea from early on.
As long as Contreras is here, Burly's best fit is as the DH.
Just b/c Herrera has had a couple injuries this year doesn't mean much. We don't know yet how he will hold up as a position starter anywhere.

As a former catcher I’d think he at least has the arm for left.

[Goldfan]

Absolutely see how Herrera does as an OF'er, that's been a no brainer idea from early on.
As long as Contreras is here, Burly's best fit is as the DH.
Just b/c Herrera has had a couple injuries this year doesn't mean much. We don't know yet how he will hold up as a position starter anywhere.

As a former catcher I’d think he at least has the arm for left.

BD….remember when Mo traded for Ozuna….who had an arm so phucked up that he couldn’t get the ball back to the infield without bouncing or having the SS run all they way out to short LF

[sikeston bulldog2]

Absolutely see how Herrera does as an OF'er, that's been a no brainer idea from early on.
As long as Contreras is here, Burly's best fit is as the DH.
Just b/c Herrera has had a couple injuries this year doesn't mean much. We don't know yet how he will hold up as a position starter anywhere.

As a former catcher I’d think he at least has the arm for left.

BD….remember when Mo traded for Ozuna….who had an arm so phucked up that he couldn’t get the ball back to the infield without bouncing or having the SS run all they way out to short LF

Yes. And other left fielders who muffed plays, some even in post season.

[Ozziesfan41]

Absolutely see how Herrera does as an OF'er, that's been a no brainer idea from early on.
As long as Contreras is here, Burly's best fit is as the DH.
Just b/c Herrera has had a couple injuries this year doesn't mean much. We don't know yet how he will hold up as a position starter anywhere.

As a former catcher I’d think he at least has the arm for left.

lol his arm is too weak for catcher that’s why they are moving him

[JDW]

Absolutely see how Herrera does as an OF'er, that's been a no brainer idea from early on.
As long as Contreras is here, Burly's best fit is as the DH.
Just b/c Herrera has had a couple injuries this year doesn't mean much. We don't know yet how he will hold up as a position starter anywhere.

As a former catcher I’d think he at least has the arm for left.

Yes, even a relatively weak armed C should have a decent arm for a LF'er. Also being able to throw from a more normal position where you can step into it vs. how you can throw from the squat position is a big difference, don't ask me how I know, ha.
And maybe Scouty's right in thinking Herrera might be a bad OF'er. OK, if that's the case you can play Burly out there and put Herrera as the DH.
You don't know until you can compare, and having potential options/versatility is a good thing.

[JDW]

Absolutely see how Herrera does as an OF'er, that's been a no brainer idea from early on.
As long as Contreras is here, Burly's best fit is as the DH.
Just b/c Herrera has had a couple injuries this year doesn't mean much. We don't know yet how he will hold up as a position starter anywhere.

As a former catcher I’d think he at least has the arm for left.

lol his arm is too weak for catcher that’s why they are moving him

Even a weak armed MLB C has a good arm comped to many other positions.
Now just for fun. Go out and throw from the normal position of stepping into a throw.
Then get down in the squat and pop up as fast as you can and see how you throw.
Heck, was it Cruz the other day that unleashed a 105 mph throw from the OF last week? He didn't do that from the squat.

[Melville]

Good to see the Cardinals doing that which I was first and best to understand, 3 years ago when I correctly advised precisely this move.
My perfect branding of Super Slo Mo confirmed yet again.
Best of luck to Herrera - this will unquestionably enhance his career

Melville reaction every time .jpeg

“Which I was first and best to understand”
And
“My perfect branding”

But
“Never about me always about the game”!
ME-ville at his best never fails to get a laugh!
Easy
Obvious
Correct

I appreciate your acknowledgement that I have been proven correct in my analysis yet again.
I have been saying since the 2023 season (yes - this is now the third year) that Herrera could never be an adequate MLB catcher - there were simply too many things to correct.
And you are correct about something as well - I am, in fact, only and always about the game.
The game made it obvious The Matador (I wish I could remember who came up with that so that I could give due credit) was never going to stick at that position.
The game made it obvious it was imperative to find another spot for him.
The game made it clear that pitchers, quite correctly, were never going to have confidence in him.
This was all painfully obvious.
It is simply amazing that Super Slo Mo and his staff of sycophants required 3 seasons to finally see that which I understood perfectly in a matter of weeks.
This is great news for Herrera.
AS I said, this will unquestionably enhance his career.
My advice to you - and to the Cardinals?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.

[Jatalk]

In practice from Willy M.

Do you think maybe try him in LF ?
Replace Noot thus keeping DH spot open for Gorman
And possible Pozo/Pages combo C/DH sometimes too.

Let's slow the roll and see if he can do it. Kid gets hurt running bases and has never played the OF.

Ye I would be surprised and disappointed if they throw him in OF this year. But I do hope he can learn the position.