Was Edman worth $15M/yr X 5yrs?

[Futuregm2]

No, (and he is only getting about $12MM a year), but the Cardinals should have been able to obtain more than Erick Fedde by trading him.

Doesn't it make you feel bitter how Edman(NLCS MVP 2024), Garcia(ALCS MVP 2023), Alcantara(Cy Young award), and Arozarena(ALCS MVP 2020) all took off after they were traded?

It was a miracle they got a pitcher like Fedde having the year he was having for a player who hadn’t even played at all and was coming off wrist surgery.

And it really doesn’t about Edman. He got hot for a couple rounds in the playoffs. That happens to even average players. He would have been sitting at home on the couch just like Fedde was in October if we kept him. And his value wouldn’t have been any different.

[Konstantinov]

He’s a glue guy on a championship team who does the little things right. He checks his ego at the door, will play anywhere you ask him to and can bat anywhere in the order. He’s clutch and not afraid of big playoff moments. For his LA career he’s won one World Series in one year.

In 2025, he’s 1000% worth it.

[Ronnie Dobbs]

For a normal team that cares about money, no, but for the Dodgers, yes.

[rockondlouie]

That contract was a JOKE

As a Dodger:
.235 .292 .414 .707

Edman is a nice player if he's the 7th - 8th best player in your lineup, which he is in LA, and worth no more than $6-7M AAV.

[Jatalk]

Yes. Numbers may have slipped but still can produce offensively and at multiple defensive positions. Plus he is pretty clutch in big situations.

[ClassicO]

That contract was a JOKE

As a Dodger:
.235 .292 .414 .707

Edman is a nice player if he's the 7th - 8th best player in your lineup, which he is in LA, and worth no more than $6-7M AAV.

Yes. The argument that “they can afford it” doesn’t change that, since he’s still on the team and underperforming. And will be through 2029.

[rockondlouie]

That contract was a JOKE

As a Dodger:
.235 .292 .414 .707

Edman is a nice player if he's the 7th - 8th best player in your lineup, which he is in LA, and worth no more than $6-7M AAV.

Yes. The argument that “they can afford it” doesn’t change that, since he’s still on the team and underperforming. And will be through 2029.

Vastly overpaid

[HOUCARD]

Dodgers make so much money they don't need to worry about efficiency the way small/mid market teams do. Just look at their pitching staff. They throw money at a bunch of studs, when healthy, and hope 5 of them can pitch.

[ClassicO]

Dodgers make so much money they don't need to worry about efficiency the way small/mid market teams do. Just look at their pitching staff. They throw money at a bunch of studs, when healthy, and hope 5 of them can pitch.

I'm not sure about that. Every team has to worry about carrying a player who doesn't carry his weight.

The Dodgers have overpaid for many years, but they've won as many WS as the Cards since 1989. And there have been 9 different teams that've won the WS in the past 11 years, so spending does not always equal a WS. They went from 1988 to 2020 without a ring.
The Yankees have won one WS since 2001 (2009), although they won 3 straight before that year.

[ClassicO]

FYI - the Dodgers have been the outliers in the 2 years they've won the WS. There's a correlation, but not as strong as people think.

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[renostl]

FYI - the Dodgers have been the outliers in the 2 years they've won the WS. There's a correlation, but not as strong as people think.


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Wasn't 2015 the outlier?
Since then, a team that spends over
average wins.

[ClassicO]

FYI - the Dodgers have been the outliers in the 2 years they've won the WS. There's a correlation, but not as strong as people think.


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Wasn't 2015 the outlier?
Since then, a team that spends over
average wins.

I realize that of course. I have oft-spoken out about the fact that the Cards need to spend above average, as they did for many years. Since they are in the top 10 in team value, they need to spend like it. And we now know it's as much about spending on development as payroll.
The question is - how much to spend over the average? It's not like spending alone will win it.

"In the average season since the [1996] strike, the correlation coefficient between payroll and winning percentage is 0.44. For 2024, that figure is just 0.36. For every high-priced success story like the Yankees and Dodgers, there were also expensive sub-.500 flops like the Rangers, Giants and Blue Jays. Meanwhile, teams like the Guardians, Orioles, Brewers, Royals and Tigers ranked 20th or worse in spending but made the playoffs with strong campaigns."

"Again, looking back since 1995, there’s very little relationship between how predictive payroll was toward wins during the regular season and how high-priced a World Series we ended up getting."
https://neilpaine.substack.com/p/a-dodg ... ies-doesnt. (This article has lots of data on this point)

[brock118]

LA signed him to a 5-year, $74M contract
Here are his career slashes:


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His last three years he's .243/.300/.406/.706
He had 8 HRs as of April 22 and two since, his last on June 1.
He's essentially stopped stealing bases due to a variety of injuries - six last year and three this year.
Also, his defense in CF has not been very good: a range factor of 2.25 vs. league avg. of 2.68 and a 1 DRS.
His defense at 2b has gone from a +12 DRS in 2022 to -1, 0, and 0 the past 3 years. (He's a +2 at SS.)
He's versatile, but would anyone want him over Donovan/JJ or VSII - at that price?

You have to consider is la thats signing him and la has an i infinitely bigger market and generates infinitely more revenue than most teams in baseball, and since theres no salary cap, they can do these contracts to lock the guy they want even if its a horrible overpay for other teams to try.

No. The context is he worth it? Nope, he isn't.

Edman is more valuable to the Dodgers than he is to the Cardinals. He has the intangibles and does the little things that save ball games. He doesn't have to be a big hitter for the Dodgers, just a great glove man wherever you put him. There's a reason that the Dodgers have been trying to trade for him for years. In one inning a few months ago, Edman made three great plays in the inning on defense that won the game for the Dodgers.

[scoutyjones2]

LA signed him to a 5-year, $74M contract
Here are his career slashes:


Screenshot 2025-07-10 at 5.53.28 AM.png


His last three years he's .243/.300/.406/.706
He had 8 HRs as of April 22 and two since, his last on June 1.
He's essentially stopped stealing bases due to a variety of injuries - six last year and three this year.
Also, his defense in CF has not been very good: a range factor of 2.25 vs. league avg. of 2.68 and a 1 DRS.
His defense at 2b has gone from a +12 DRS in 2022 to -1, 0, and 0 the past 3 years. (He's a +2 at SS.)
He's versatile, but would anyone want him over Donovan/JJ or VSII - at that price?

You have to consider is la thats signing him and la has an i infinitely bigger market and generates infinitely more revenue than most teams in baseball, and since theres no salary cap, they can do these contracts to lock the guy they want even if its a horrible overpay for other teams to try.

No. The context is he worth it? Nope, he isn't.

Edman is more valuable to the Dodgers than he is to the Cardinals. He has the intangibles and does the little things that save ball games. He doesn't have to be a big hitter for the Dodgers, just a great glove man wherever you put him. There's a reason that the Dodgers have been trying to trade for him for years. In one inning a few months ago, Edman made three great plays in the inning on defense that won the game for the Dodgers.

Horse [shirt]. He doesn't have intangibles. He's a [fork]ing utility player who is a below average hitter

He's not a great glove either

Ooop...one inning a few months ago...that justifies his salary of at least $48 till he's 36 and deferred payments till 2040

[Baseball Savant]

He’s worth it his contract says so

[brock118]

LA signed him to a 5-year, $74M contract
Here are his career slashes:


Screenshot 2025-07-10 at 5.53.28 AM.png


His last three years he's .243/.300/.406/.706
He had 8 HRs as of April 22 and two since, his last on June 1.
He's essentially stopped stealing bases due to a variety of injuries - six last year and three this year.
Also, his defense in CF has not been very good: a range factor of 2.25 vs. league avg. of 2.68 and a 1 DRS.
His defense at 2b has gone from a +12 DRS in 2022 to -1, 0, and 0 the past 3 years. (He's a +2 at SS.)
He's versatile, but would anyone want him over Donovan/JJ or VSII - at that price?

You have to consider is la thats signing him and la has an i infinitely bigger market and generates infinitely more revenue than most teams in baseball, and since theres no salary cap, they can do these contracts to lock the guy they want even if its a horrible overpay for other teams to try.

No. The context is he worth it? Nope, he isn't.

Edman is more valuable to the Dodgers than he is to the Cardinals. He has the intangibles and does the little things that save ball games. He doesn't have to be a big hitter for the Dodgers, just a great glove man wherever you put him. There's a reason that the Dodgers have been trying to trade for him for years. In one inning a few months ago, Edman made three great plays in the inning on defense that won the game for the Dodgers.

Horse [shirt]. He doesn't have intangibles. He's a [fork]ing utility player who is a below average hitter

He's not a great glove either

Ooop...one inning a few months ago...that justifies his salary of at least $48 till he's 36 and deferred payments till 2040

I didn't say anything about his salary. I said he is more valuable to the Dodgers than the Cardinals. I also said he doesn't have to be a big hitter. Why do you think the Dodgers paid him so much, if they knew he wasn't a good hitter. Nope you're right your intelligence is overwhelming. Edman has a gold glove he plays many positions well. You are a sad sad man. Take a walk away from the computer, there's a whole other world out there. What a sad life you must live, by trying to be an (donkey)(pit) on every comment.