What can we expect from Bloom: Won't he have the same pinch collar attached?

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Bully4you
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What can we expect from Bloom: Won't he have the same pinch collar attached?

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I mean with deWitt and all?
With that as an owner?
I mean he's a real beauty that one, right?
I figure it won't be a whole lot different.
Swings and misses due to money constraints.
Be a lot of that.
Hopefully the farm system is much better.
Tell me something good about this Bloom character
that bodes well with working with a miser like
deWitt.
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Re: What can we expect from Bloom: Won't he have the same pinch collar attached?

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Bully4you wrote: 10 Jul 2025 03:22 am I mean with deWitt and all?
With that as an owner?
I mean he's a real beauty that one, right?
I figure it won't be a whole lot different.
Swings and misses due to money constraints.
Be a lot of that.
Hopefully the farm system is much better.
Tell me something good about this Bloom character
that bodes well with working with a miser like
deWitt.
I can’t sleep. So here I sit. You’re probably right about money issues. This alone will hamstring him. Then farm or FA, it’s a (bleep) shoot. Farm- will they develop. FA- will they perform.
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Re: What can we expect from Bloom: Won't he have the same pinch collar attached?

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Bully4you wrote: 10 Jul 2025 03:22 am I mean with deWitt and all?
With that as an owner?
I mean he's a real beauty that one, right?
I figure it won't be a whole lot different.
Swings and misses due to money constraints.
Be a lot of that.
Hopefully the farm system is much better.
Tell me something good about this Bloom character
that bodes well with working with a miser like
deWitt.
I dont know if we know that to be true. None of us know what kind of [nonsense] Mo was shoveling to the owners.
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Re: What can we expect from Bloom: Won't he have the same pinch collar attached?

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This us an excellent question. Many here feel that everything will be better when Bloom gets here. Some things will be better. We already see better talent evaluation. We already see a willingness to go outside the organization and hire bright minds rather than just live in an echo chamber. We already see evidence of better development in the minors (Nathan Church, Josh Baez).Those things alone are really significant. He will also frustrate the faithful. In Boston they were frustrated with his inactivity at multiple trade deadlines. They were frustrated with his unwillingness to trade prospects to improve the big league roster. Like Mozeliak, you can expect Bloom to carry out ownerships wishes and take the heat for it (Mookie Betts). And then we get to ownership- we seem to have an ownership that is only interested in being good enough to get you to come- and if you don't come want to somehow say it is your fault. You can expect Bloom to be a cautious dude. That's why he was hired.
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Re: What can we expect from Bloom: Won't he have the same pinch collar attached?

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Time will tell. When the younger DeWitt takes over, decisions coming from the top may really get strange. It is my hope that eventually, sooner than later, the DeWitt family decides to sell the St. Louis Cardinal Baseball Club.
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The term "Keeping the powder dry" comes to mind. They will not sign premium talent and surround it with slightly less premium talent. Their entire model has never ever been to "Dominate". They've always aimed at squeaking by. The talent is out there. They have the money to spend with ease. A few of the billionaire owners don't mind spending to get the edge they need to win. DeWitt isn't one of those and will never be. It's always always about squeaking in and getting lucky. Eventually the luck turns and the talent isn't enough to change it. Then you find yourself decades later with a couple of wildcard losses to show for it. The only recourse the fans have is to not support the team, sadly. This is the road they've chosen for the team, to cheap out and cut talent so they can draft cheap top tier talent. Then magically, 5 years down the road this will all come together to produce an exciting team that will win a little and then be sold off like so many spare parts. Like everything else in America, profit above all. Healthcare? Nope, profit. Homelessness? Nope profit. Living wages? Nope, profit. Helping the elderly, disabled and poor? You've got to be kidding, Profit baby! Baseball isn't an exception, it's a reflection of America. Jesus wept.
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Probably the same financial stuff, but my hope is that he'll be a WAY better talent evaluator. That way the money we DO spend isn't put to waste. I've had more than enough of paying top dollar for the Mike Leakes, Miles Mikolases, etc. of the world. And also hoping he's less sentimental about the players who don't deserve it. Legacy guys, I'm fine with. But Mo seemed to play fast and loose with that.
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Re: What can we expect from Bloom: Won't he have the same pinch collar attached?

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Bully4you wrote: 10 Jul 2025 03:22 am I mean with deWitt and all?
With that as an owner?
I mean he's a real beauty that one, right?
I figure it won't be a whole lot different.
Swings and misses due to money constraints.
Be a lot of that.
Hopefully the farm system is much better.
Tell me something good about this Bloom character
that bodes well with working with a miser like
deWitt.
Prior to the recent belt-tightening, Mo was given generous financial support and squandered hundreds of millions. Bloom will have to earn that same support by delivering some stars to the MLB roster through the farm system.
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Re: What can we expect from Bloom: Won't he have the same pinch collar attached?

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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 10 Jul 2025 07:38 am This us an excellent question. Many here feel that everything will be better when Bloom gets here. Some things will be better. We already see better talent evaluation. We already see a willingness to go outside the organization and hire bright minds rather than just live in an echo chamber. We already see evidence of better development in the minors (Nathan Church, Josh Baez).Those things alone are really significant. He will also frustrate the faithful. In Boston they were frustrated with his inactivity at multiple trade deadlines. They were frustrated with his unwillingness to trade prospects to improve the big league roster. Like Mozeliak, you can expect Bloom to carry out ownerships wishes and take the heat for it (Mookie Betts). And then we get to ownership- we seem to have an ownership that is only interested in being good enough to get you to come- and if you don't come want to somehow say it is your fault. You can expect Bloom to be a cautious dude. That's why he was hired.
Cautious ? I do know Bloom was aggressive in hiring Rob Cerfolio away from the Guardians. Expecting Cerfolio to be promoted from Asst GM to GM once Bloom is officially the POBO.The two have been quite instrumental in improving minor league development technology (pitching lab), more coaches etc.
The Organization will be far different than old school Mo.
He didn’t keep up with the times .
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