Why the Blues want to trade Kyrou

[LGB73]

If this was true that the Blues felt they had younger players to fill Kyrou's role, then Bolduc wouldn't have been traded for Mailloux. It would have been Kyrou for Mailloux plus picks/prospect.

[Nublues69]

Al this trade speculation is just like when edm and tor wanted parayko it was made up and then the fans ran with it non stop...

There is nothing short of Hage and Reinbacher comming back and with out a cap dump to get kyrou and Habs will not do it.

So end of story

[SpacemanSpiff]

On the Janssen / Strickland podcast, they both stated that Kyrou was never really on the trade block. Someone threw his name out there and teams started calling Armstrong about him.

Since Armstrong is a good GM, he'd listen to the offers, but they both said he was never really on the table.

[blues2112]

[Kyrou] failed to stick and build chemistry with Thomas over several seasons.

Not trying to start a fight, but curious why you repeat that.

In his three previous seasons, primarily with The Thompson, he scored 95 goals, had his two best point seasons, best assist season and best goal season.

My (sometimes bad) memory is that the play of each suffered without the other

[zamadoo]

[Kyrou] failed to stick and build chemistry with Thomas over several seasons.

Not trying to start a fight, but curious why you repeat that.

In his three previous seasons, primarily with The Thompson, he scored 95 goals, had his two best point seasons, best assist season and best goal season.

My (sometimes bad) memory is that the play of each suffered without the other

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

[Nublues69]

On the Janssen / Strickland podcast, they both stated that Kyrou was never really on the trade block. Someone threw his name out there and teams started calling Armstrong about him.

Since Armstrong is a good GM, he'd listen to the offers, but they both said he was never really on the table.

Exactly he was just some poo that an analyst threw against a wall for click bait

[Harry York 37]

[Kyrou] failed to stick and build chemistry with Thomas over several seasons.

Not trying to start a fight, but curious why you repeat that.

In his three previous seasons, primarily with The Thompson, he scored 95 goals, had his two best point seasons, best assist season and best goal season.

My (sometimes bad) memory is that the play of each suffered without the other

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

Kyrou's plus minus with Thomas has always been miserable.
Zamadoo is right on about the magic that truly appears ONLY when Kyrou is paired with Schenn and, most importantly, Holloway.

[blues2112]

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

Thanks for the polite and well-thought response. And I agree 100 percent with that, although when the "pretty" passing plays work, it's magic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6iVQj0Dqog

More often, I'm yelling SHOOT THE F PUCK!!!

[netboy65]

[Kyrou] failed to stick and build chemistry with Thomas over several seasons.

Not trying to start a fight, but curious why you repeat that.

In his three previous seasons, primarily with The Thompson, he scored 95 goals, had his two best point seasons, best assist season and best goal season.

My (sometimes bad) memory is that the play of each suffered without the other

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

Kyrou's plus minus with Thomas has always been miserable.
Zamadoo is right on about the magic that truly appears ONLY when Kyrou is paired with Schenn and, most importantly, Holloway.

Second verse same as the first!
Henry the Eighth I am…..

You’re like a broken record

[zamadoo]

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

Agree 100 percent with that.

Regardless of his linemates over the past 4-5 seasons, Kyrou consistently scores goals few others on Blues can.

I agree, but now I think Snuggerudd is also on that tier of goal scorer. Carbonneau will be that eventually.

Goodness, I don't want to forget about Dvorsky!

Edit: Actually, I want to also mention something that drives me nuts about Kyrou: Elite skating, but almost never uses it to drive to the net. I hardly see him blowing by defenders, and perhaps they are watching for him, though he has been using the wrap-around a lot recently. He's done better at chipping the puck in deep rather than doing that insanely maddening turnaround (and turnover) at the blueline.

[netboy65]

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

Agree 100 percent with that.

Regardless of his linemates over the past 4-5 seasons, Kyrou consistently scores goals few others on Blues can.

I agree, but now I think Snuggerudd is also on that tier of goal scorer. Carbonneau will be that eventually.

Goodness, I don't want to forget about Dvorsky!

Edit: Actually, I want to also mention something that drives me nuts about Kyrou: Elite skating, but almost never uses it to drive to the net. I hardly see him blowing by defenders, and perhaps they are watching for him, though he has been using the wrap-around a lot recently. He's done better at chipping the puck in deep rather than doing that insanely maddening turnaround (and turnover) at the blueline.

Faster linemates would help with that, otherwise people would be complaining; why is he trying to go 1 on 3??

[Harry York 37]

[Kyrou] failed to stick and build chemistry with Thomas over several seasons.

Not trying to start a fight, but curious why you repeat that.

In his three previous seasons, primarily with The Thompson, he scored 95 goals, had his two best point seasons, best assist season and best goal season.

My (sometimes bad) memory is that the play of each suffered without the other

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

Kyrou's plus minus with Thomas has always been miserable.
Zamadoo is right on about the magic that truly appears ONLY when Kyrou is paired with Schenn and, most importantly, Holloway.

Second verse same as the first!
Henry the Eighth I am…..

You’re like a broken record

Perhaps, but my vinyl has a bit of an open mind, while yours is dead-ended straight into the run-out groove. I admit that another year of Holloway (and Schenn) can "show Kyrou the Way" and maybe the lesson will stick. I admit that chance. It might even be called a likelihood.
I desperately never want to see Kryou play 20 shifts a game in the playoffs, appearing as though he doesn't want to win very much.
You have tunnel-vision,

[zamadoo]

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

Agree 100 percent with that.

Regardless of his linemates over the past 4-5 seasons, Kyrou consistently scores goals few others on Blues can.

I agree, but now I think Snuggerudd is also on that tier of goal scorer. Carbonneau will be that eventually.

Goodness, I don't want to forget about Dvorsky!

Edit: Actually, I want to also mention something that drives me nuts about Kyrou: Elite skating, but almost never uses it to drive to the net. I hardly see him blowing by defenders, and perhaps they are watching for him, though he has been using the wrap-around a lot recently. He's done better at chipping the puck in deep rather than doing that insanely maddening turnaround (and turnover) at the blueline.

Faster linemates would help with that, otherwise people would be complaining; why is he trying to go 1 on 3??

Yes, as has been noted, Holloway vastly helped Kyrou by being the leading forechecker who can drive the line with his speed and tenacity. It doesn't stop Kyrou from going 1 on 3, where he has impressive success sometimes, but it has helped him.

[Harry York 37]

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

Agree 100 percent with that.

Regardless of his linemates over the past 4-5 seasons, Kyrou consistently scores goals few others on Blues can.

I agree, but now I think Snuggerudd is also on that tier of goal scorer. Carbonneau will be that eventually.

Goodness, I don't want to forget about Dvorsky!

Edit: Actually, I want to also mention something that drives me nuts about Kyrou: Elite skating, but almost never uses it to drive to the net. I hardly see him blowing by defenders, and perhaps they are watching for him, though he has been using the wrap-around a lot recently. He's done better at chipping the puck in deep rather than doing that insanely maddening turnaround (and turnover) at the blueline.

Faster linemates would help with that, otherwise people would be complaining; why is he trying to go 1 on 3??

Yes, as has been noted, Holloway vastly helped Kyrou by being the leading forechecker who can drive the line with his speed and tenacity. It doesn't stop Kyrou from going 1 on 3, where he has impressive success sometimes, but it has helped him.

For "The Fastest Skater" ASG Winner, it is puzzling. Perron and Oshie made those plays happen. Why can't Kyrou?

[theograce]

My (also sometimes bad) memory is that he's been moved off of Thomas' wing repeatedly, and my argument would be that it's not because of total points scored in a season. He's going to score. No argument there. He just had his best season overall playing with Holloway and Schenn, two guys who will battle on the forecheck and do the dirty work (like Neighbours, who had chemistry with Thomas). My opinion is that Kyrou's lack of forechecking and puck retrieval ability, along with Thomas/Kyrou/Buch always deferring to each other instead of shooting (driving Blues fans and John Kelly crazy), led to three different coaches splitting them up. I would also say part of that was to spread out the scoring talent.

Agree 100 percent with that.

Regardless of his linemates over the past 4-5 seasons, Kyrou consistently scores goals few others on Blues can.

I agree, but now I think Snuggerudd is also on that tier of goal scorer. Carbonneau will be that eventually.

Goodness, I don't want to forget about Dvorsky!

Edit: Actually, I want to also mention something that drives me nuts about Kyrou: Elite skating, but almost never uses it to drive to the net. I hardly see him blowing by defenders, and perhaps they are watching for him, though he has been using the wrap-around a lot recently. He's done better at chipping the puck in deep rather than doing that insanely maddening turnaround (and turnover) at the blueline.

Faster linemates would help with that, otherwise people would be complaining; why is he trying to go 1 on 3??

Yes, as has been noted, Holloway vastly helped Kyrou by being the leading forechecker who can drive the line with his speed and tenacity. It doesn't stop Kyrou from going 1 on 3, where he has impressive success sometimes, but it has helped him.

For "The Fastest Skater" ASG Winner, it is puzzling. Perron and Oshie made those plays happen. Why can't Kyrou?

With Schenn and Neighbours in the playoffs? Look at Schenn’s career numbers in the playoffs. These are units. You need good ones. It matters

[ClassicO]

He led the team in goals (36) and in +/- (+23). Trade the bum