Devers already a problem in San Fran

[Cardinals4Life]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

[nighthawk]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

[Cardinals4Life]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

[nighthawk]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

Really? If first base is has so many intricacies to play, why did this franchise after it traded perhaps the greatest fielding first basemen in history – Keith Hernandez – opt for a series of outfielders and poor fielding infielders to succeed him at first base?

And please tell me that you don't buy into the notion that a first basemen's assists totals reflect a great skill.

[Cardinals4Life]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

Really? If first base is has so many intricacies to play, why did this franchise after it traded perhaps the greatest fielding first basemen in history – Keith Hernandez – opt for a series of outfielders and poor fielding infielders to succeed him at first base?

And please tell me that you don't buy into the notion that a first basemen's assists totals reflect a great skill.

I never said it wasn't an easier position overall, but it still has intricacies that myst be learned and practiced. (Receiving throws, stretching, footwork, picking/digging, cutoffs, throws to bases, feeding pitchers who are covering, etc.)

[nighthawk]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

Really? If first base is has so many intricacies to play, why did this franchise after it traded perhaps the greatest fielding first basemen in history – Keith Hernandez – opt for a series of outfielders and poor fielding infielders to succeed him at first base?

And please tell me that you don't buy into the notion that a first basemen's assists totals reflect a great skill.

I never said it wasn't an easier position overall, but it still has intricacies that myst be learned and practiced. (Receiving throws, stretching, footwork, picking/digging, cutoffs, throws to bases, feeding pitchers who are covering, etc.)

Yes, truly mystical to play.

[rockondlouie]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

3rd baseman doesn't have to:

-Dig balls out of the dirt
-Come off the bag to accept errant throws up the first baseline while trying to make a swipe tag on a player runner full tilt knowing he may get run over and injured
-Take pickoff throws from his pitchers and applying tags
-Take pickoff throws from his catcher

and without a doubt the toughest play a first baseman has to be able to make that a third baseman doesn't:

-make a throw to second base on a potential double play ground ball hit to him while avoiding hitting the runner

[Cardinals4Life]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

Really? If first base is has so many intricacies to play, why did this franchise after it traded perhaps the greatest fielding first basemen in history – Keith Hernandez – opt for a series of outfielders and poor fielding infielders to succeed him at first base?

And please tell me that you don't buy into the notion that a first basemen's assists totals reflect a great skill.

I never said it wasn't an easier position overall, but it still has intricacies that myst be learned and practiced. (Receiving throws, stretching, footwork, picking/digging, cutoffs, throws to bases, feeding pitchers who are covering, etc.)

Yes, truly mystical to play.

Again, anybody making a position change would want to practice the ins and outs of their new position. Why you're arguing this is odd.

[nighthawk]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

Really? If first base is has so many intricacies to play, why did this franchise after it traded perhaps the greatest fielding first basemen in history – Keith Hernandez – opt for a series of outfielders and poor fielding infielders to succeed him at first base?

And please tell me that you don't buy into the notion that a first basemen's assists totals reflect a great skill.

I never said it wasn't an easier position overall, but it still has intricacies that myst be learned and practiced. (Receiving throws, stretching, footwork, picking/digging, cutoffs, throws to bases, feeding pitchers who are covering, etc.)

Yes, truly mystical to play.

Again, anybody making a position change would want to practice the ins and outs of their new position. Why you're arguing this is odd.

Devers has all the skills he needs -- why are you arguing that he doesn't. He simply doesn't want to play first.

[Cardinals4Life]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

Really? If first base is has so many intricacies to play, why did this franchise after it traded perhaps the greatest fielding first basemen in history – Keith Hernandez – opt for a series of outfielders and poor fielding infielders to succeed him at first base?

And please tell me that you don't buy into the notion that a first basemen's assists totals reflect a great skill.

I never said it wasn't an easier position overall, but it still has intricacies that myst be learned and practiced. (Receiving throws, stretching, footwork, picking/digging, cutoffs, throws to bases, feeding pitchers who are covering, etc.)

Yes, truly mystical to play.

Again, anybody making a position change would want to practice the ins and outs of their new position. Why you're arguing this is odd.

Devers has all the skills he needs -- why are you arguing that he doesn't. He simply doesn't want to play first.

Devers is horrible with the glove. He most certainly needs work, especially when learning a new position. He is also a cancer.

[nighthawk]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

Really? If first base is has so many intricacies to play, why did this franchise after it traded perhaps the greatest fielding first basemen in history – Keith Hernandez – opt for a series of outfielders and poor fielding infielders to succeed him at first base?

And please tell me that you don't buy into the notion that a first basemen's assists totals reflect a great skill.

I never said it wasn't an easier position overall, but it still has intricacies that myst be learned and practiced. (Receiving throws, stretching, footwork, picking/digging, cutoffs, throws to bases, feeding pitchers who are covering, etc.)

Yes, truly mystical to play.

Again, anybody making a position change would want to practice the ins and outs of their new position. Why you're arguing this is odd.

Devers has all the skills he needs -- why are you arguing that he doesn't. He simply doesn't want to play first.

Devers is horrible with the glove. He most certainly needs work, especially when learning a new position. He is also a cancer.

He's no more horrible with the glove than Pedro Guerrero, Richie Allen, Greff Jefferies, Bob Horner and others when they were infielders. They all sufficed at first base because that's all you really need at first as long as you can hit.

[nighthawk]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

3rd baseman doesn't have to:

-Dig balls out of the dirtThey don't have to dig balls out of the dirt because throws are always perfect from other infielders, outfielders?????
-Come off the bag to accept errant throws up the first baseline while trying to make a swipe tag on a player runner full tilt knowing he may get run over and injured Really, they don't ever have to track errant throws and try to tag a runner????
-Take pickoff throws from his pitchers and applying tagsThey don't take pickoff throws from pitchers?????
-Take pickoff throws from his catcher catchers never try to pick off a runner at third base???

and without a doubt the toughest play a first baseman has to be able to make that a third baseman doesn't:

-make a throw to second base on a potential double play ground ball hit to him while avoiding hitting the runner - third basemen don't have to avoid hitting the runner trying to score? What are they? Transparent when they run home???

[rockondlouie]

In eight seasons playing 3rd base for the Sox' Devers was a -61 DRS and made 141 errors.

(Just for fun: NADO the past eight seasons is a +86 DRS and made 70 errors)

Do I think Devers could play first base? Yes

Do I think he'd play it well? No

[Cardinals4Life]

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

Really? If first base is has so many intricacies to play, why did this franchise after it traded perhaps the greatest fielding first basemen in history – Keith Hernandez – opt for a series of outfielders and poor fielding infielders to succeed him at first base?

And please tell me that you don't buy into the notion that a first basemen's assists totals reflect a great skill.

I never said it wasn't an easier position overall, but it still has intricacies that myst be learned and practiced. (Receiving throws, stretching, footwork, picking/digging, cutoffs, throws to bases, feeding pitchers who are covering, etc.)

Yes, truly mystical to play.

Again, anybody making a position change would want to practice the ins and outs of their new position. Why you're arguing this is odd.

Devers has all the skills he needs -- why are you arguing that he doesn't. He simply doesn't want to play first.

Devers is horrible with the glove. He most certainly needs work, especially when learning a new position. He is also a cancer.

He's no more horrible with the glove than Pedro Guerrero, Richie Allen, Greff Jefferies, Bob Horner and others when they were infielders. They all sufficed at first base because that's all you really need at first as long as you can hit.

I still bet those guys practiced their position specifics.

[Ordinary Man]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runners bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

Guy, your lack of baseball knowledge is showing. Please stop.

How so???

Saying that playing first base is as simple as plopping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is grossly underestimating the position. Way more intricacies involved.

Really? If first base is has so many intricacies to play, why did this franchise after it traded perhaps the greatest fielding first basemen in history – Keith Hernandez – opt for a series of outfielders and poor fielding infielders to succeed him at first base?

And please tell me that you don't buy into the notion that a first basemen's assists totals reflect a great skill.

I never said it wasn't an easier position overall, but it still has intricacies that myst be learned and practiced. (Receiving throws, stretching, footwork, picking/digging, cutoffs, throws to bases, feeding pitchers who are covering, etc.)

Yes, truly mystical to play.

[hugeCardfan]

What kind of skills does a third baseman need to play first that he doesn't already have?

Same skill that SS, and 2B lack until they practice it . . . receiving throws at 1B. It's something you do maybe once or twice a game at other positions, and something you do 10-15 times a game as a 1B.

Oh good lord, SS, 2b and 3b receive throws from all over the field with runner bearing down on them that they sometimes need to tag or avoid so they can complete a double play. Ploping a foot on a bag and catching a throw from an infielder is going to be extraordiarily difficult for them???

I didn't say it was extraordinarily difficult, but it's a very clear and obvious thing that 1B do many more times every single game than any other position. A team certainly isn't going to move a player to a position without giving him some practice there to make sure they are up to speed. Maybe it takes one or two practice sessions, maybe it takes longer, but you still have to actually show up and practice it to show the team you can handle a key component of 1B before they trot you out there.

Countless infielders have switched to first base quite easily because it is the least challenging position to play. They don't need frigging Will Clark to give them lessons. Devers has the skills, but for whatever reason, he just doesn't want to play first base.

It doesn't make sense to me to blow off an offer from Will Clark to work on the position.