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Latest Byram Rumor: Price Has Gone Up

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Jordan Schmaltz
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🚨BREAKING: News out of Buffalo New York regarding 24 year old left shot Stanley Cup winning defenseman, Bowen Byram the ask has gone up. Yesterday’s price isn’t today’s. Kevyn Adams who spells his first name like he was conceived in a trailer park, doesn’t feel the rush to move Byram if the price isn’t right. He will hold not fold. Let’s see where this goes..
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https://x.com/J_Swish24/status/1942769178139844947
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Schmaltzie!
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Buffalo gets to do what it wants to. Go ahead, hang onto him and let Buffalo figure out where they get the 9 million AAV to pay him. Nobody is asking Buffalo to give him away but they haven’t been able to trade him so far so it only makes sense to raise the asking price.

If Armstrong is serious about obtaining him via trade, just be patient. Buffaloe’s strategy doesn’t seem very sound.
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I vote for Kevyn Adams as GM of the Year.
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Oh ok. So 2 days ago the word was Adams was discouraged at what was being offered for Byram so now the price goes up. Ok…

I mean, Adams is welcome to ask for whatever he wants but he’s unlikely to get it. His asset loses value by the day as they get closer to that arbitration hearing.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 08 Jul 2025 23:06 pm Oh ok. So 2 days ago the word was Adams was discouraged at what was being offered for Byram so now the price goes up. Ok…

I mean, Adams is welcome to ask for whatever he wants but he’s unlikely to get it. His asset loses value by the day as they get closer to that arbitration hearing.
I'm curious as to why that would be. If Bo's camp picks 2 years, he's on a deal until UFA. They can trade him anytime. The way I understand is that Byram's agent is known for taking players to UFA and the noise was he wants to be paid like a #1 with no health issues. I think that if his price for a long term deal reflected his production and health issues, he'd probably be traded. I could be (and probably are) wrong on this.
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This guy was traded for middle 6 center 2 years ago. Price tag is down and he wants out of Buffalo. This is the type of deal right up Army’s alley. Adam’s will fold eventually
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2025 07:08 am This guy was traded for middle 6 center 2 years ago. Price tag is down and he wants out of Buffalo. This is the type of deal right up Army’s alley. Adam’s will fold eventually
I feel so bad for Sabres fans. It has been one clueless GM after another. Despite having a lot of great, young talent, they just can’t get over the hump and now young guys are bailing out. Blues fans should be thankful…..Army has made some mistakes, but overall, the Blues organization is top notch.
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This is how you miss the playoffs 13 years straight.
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It's the location - nobody wants to be in Buffalo for the winter.
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TAFKAP wrote: 09 Jul 2025 06:59 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 08 Jul 2025 23:06 pm Oh ok. So 2 days ago the word was Adams was discouraged at what was being offered for Byram so now the price goes up. Ok…

I mean, Adams is welcome to ask for whatever he wants but he’s unlikely to get it. His asset loses value by the day as they get closer to that arbitration hearing.
I'm curious as to why that would be. If Bo's camp picks 2 years, he's on a deal until UFA. They can trade him anytime. The way I understand is that Byram's agent is known for taking players to UFA and the noise was he wants to be paid like a #1 with no health issues. I think that if his price for a long term deal reflected his production and health issues, he'd probably be traded. I could be (and probably are) wrong on this.
Because of that exact reason. He would opt for the 2 year arbitration to get him to UFA. If you were acquiring him after the arbitration hearing the odds of him extending greatly decrease, especially if its too a team he doesn't want to go, and you will have sent assets for a year to a year and half for a player.

If you are trading for him pre-arbitration odds are you are getting him signed first and an extended Byram is worth more.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2025 08:12 am
TAFKAP wrote: 09 Jul 2025 06:59 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 08 Jul 2025 23:06 pm Oh ok. So 2 days ago the word was Adams was discouraged at what was being offered for Byram so now the price goes up. Ok…

I mean, Adams is welcome to ask for whatever he wants but he’s unlikely to get it. His asset loses value by the day as they get closer to that arbitration hearing.
I'm curious as to why that would be. If Bo's camp picks 2 years, he's on a deal until UFA. They can trade him anytime. The way I understand is that Byram's agent is known for taking players to UFA and the noise was he wants to be paid like a #1 with no health issues. I think that if his price for a long term deal reflected his production and health issues, he'd probably be traded. I could be (and probably are) wrong on this.
Because of that exact reason. He would opt for the 2 year arbitration to get him to UFA. If you were acquiring him after the arbitration hearing the odds of him extending greatly decrease, especially if its too a team he doesn't want to go, and you will have sent assets for a year to a year and half for a player.

If you are trading for him pre-arbitration odds are you are getting him signed first and an extended Byram is worth more.
Another way of looking at it is you're only guaranteed 2 years either way. Byram doesn't have to sign a multi-year deal next offseason if he doesn't like the team he was traded to or they don't offer him the contract he wants.

However, his arb number looks to be ~4.6M, so it might be in his best interest (in his and his agent's opinions) to either get traded now or just take the 1 year route. If he's truly looking for twice that number then all teams are going to just wait for arbitration to settle and then go for it. That said, a team looking to win now might pick him up at a lower $ average just thinking the 1-2 seasons.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 09 Jul 2025 07:08 am This guy was traded for middle 6 center 2 years ago. Price tag is down and he wants out of Buffalo. This is the type of deal right up Army’s alley. Adam’s will fold eventually
Agreed. When I read the tweet it was like, "So now we've entered the throwing schmeedt against the wall" phase.
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zamadoo wrote: 09 Jul 2025 08:26 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2025 08:12 am
TAFKAP wrote: 09 Jul 2025 06:59 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 08 Jul 2025 23:06 pm Oh ok. So 2 days ago the word was Adams was discouraged at what was being offered for Byram so now the price goes up. Ok…

I mean, Adams is welcome to ask for whatever he wants but he’s unlikely to get it. His asset loses value by the day as they get closer to that arbitration hearing.
I'm curious as to why that would be. If Bo's camp picks 2 years, he's on a deal until UFA. They can trade him anytime. The way I understand is that Byram's agent is known for taking players to UFA and the noise was he wants to be paid like a #1 with no health issues. I think that if his price for a long term deal reflected his production and health issues, he'd probably be traded. I could be (and probably are) wrong on this.
Because of that exact reason. He would opt for the 2 year arbitration to get him to UFA. If you were acquiring him after the arbitration hearing the odds of him extending greatly decrease, especially if its too a team he doesn't want to go, and you will have sent assets for a year to a year and half for a player.

If you are trading for him pre-arbitration odds are you are getting him signed first and an extended Byram is worth more.
Another way of looking at it is you're only guaranteed 2 years either way. Byram doesn't have to sign a multi-year deal next offseason if he doesn't like the team he was traded to or they don't offer him the contract he wants.

However, his arb number looks to be ~4.6M, so it might be in his best interest (in his and his agent's opinions) to either get traded now or just take the 1 year route. If he's truly looking for twice that number then all teams are going to just wait for arbitration to settle and then go for it. That said, a team looking to win now might pick him up at a lower $ average just thinking the 1-2 seasons.
He's not going the 1 year route, that would be quite frankly a bad move. If he goes the 1 year he's still under team control when it ends and we just restart this process next year.

He goes with 2 it takes him to UFA and no matter what Buffalo does he's essentially done with them. The 2 years would further force the trade so that they don't lose him for nothing.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2025 08:45 am
zamadoo wrote: 09 Jul 2025 08:26 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 09 Jul 2025 08:12 am
TAFKAP wrote: 09 Jul 2025 06:59 am
STL fan in MN wrote: 08 Jul 2025 23:06 pm Oh ok. So 2 days ago the word was Adams was discouraged at what was being offered for Byram so now the price goes up. Ok…

I mean, Adams is welcome to ask for whatever he wants but he’s unlikely to get it. His asset loses value by the day as they get closer to that arbitration hearing.
I'm curious as to why that would be. If Bo's camp picks 2 years, he's on a deal until UFA. They can trade him anytime. The way I understand is that Byram's agent is known for taking players to UFA and the noise was he wants to be paid like a #1 with no health issues. I think that if his price for a long term deal reflected his production and health issues, he'd probably be traded. I could be (and probably are) wrong on this.
Because of that exact reason. He would opt for the 2 year arbitration to get him to UFA. If you were acquiring him after the arbitration hearing the odds of him extending greatly decrease, especially if its too a team he doesn't want to go, and you will have sent assets for a year to a year and half for a player.

If you are trading for him pre-arbitration odds are you are getting him signed first and an extended Byram is worth more.
Another way of looking at it is you're only guaranteed 2 years either way. Byram doesn't have to sign a multi-year deal next offseason if he doesn't like the team he was traded to or they don't offer him the contract he wants.

However, his arb number looks to be ~4.6M, so it might be in his best interest (in his and his agent's opinions) to either get traded now or just take the 1 year route. If he's truly looking for twice that number then all teams are going to just wait for arbitration to settle and then go for it. That said, a team looking to win now might pick him up at a lower $ average just thinking the 1-2 seasons.
He's not going the 1 year route, that would be quite frankly a bad move. If he goes the 1 year he's still under team control when it ends and we just restart this process next year.

He goes with 2 it takes him to UFA and no matter what Buffalo does he's essentially done with them. The 2 years would further force the trade so that they don't lose him for nothing.
Yeah, but if he goes 1 year and has a 70pt season with another 82 games played, his stock goes way up. Then, instead of being tied to this year's value for another season, he can get more next year. He's a UFA in two years either way. I would agree that 2 years on a lower price point makes him more tradeable to contenders and thus could get him out of Buffalo with more ease. That's probably why Buffalo is saying the price is going up - leverage.
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BalotelliMassive wrote: 09 Jul 2025 08:09 am It's the location - nobody wants to be in Buffalo for the winter.
I'm not sure that's it. The Bills get plenty of FA's showing up. And the interesting thing is the Pegula's own both teams. They run the Bills like a class A organization and they run the hockey club like it's a C league minor league team in Dillhole, Idaho. And it's not like they don't have money. They are liquid beyond belief.

This leads me to believe it's an organization virus in place with the Sabres. Poorly run, poorly structured, a clown of a GM who doesn't seem to have much of a reputation. Lot's of rumors of an internal cap in place that doesn't get put out there.
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