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rbirules
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Re: Byram and the Blues still a hot rumor

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SameOldBlues wrote: 06 Jul 2025 16:59 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 16:50 pm Buffalo is taking Byram to arbitration.
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1941977134668325136
So in typical Buffalo fashion, are they screwing themselves by keeping him one more year and then losing him for nothing after this year when he’s UFA?
I believe Byram has two years until he's an UFA. So Buffalo will still have a year of control of Byram (RFA) after the upcoming season.
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rbirules wrote: 06 Jul 2025 19:25 pm
SameOldBlues wrote: 06 Jul 2025 16:59 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 16:50 pm Buffalo is taking Byram to arbitration.
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1941977134668325136
So in typical Buffalo fashion, are they screwing themselves by keeping him one more year and then losing him for nothing after this year when he’s UFA?
I believe Byram has two years until he's an UFA. So Buffalo will still have a year of control of Byram (RFA) after the upcoming season.
I believe that since Buffalo took him to arbitration, the player and his agent get to pick the term…1 or 2 years…whichever they feel is best…so…If Byram picks 1 year…he becomes an UFA next season. All Buffalo did by taking him to arb…is take his ability to sign an offer sheet away from him…and control his playing rights for next season.
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BobbyBlue wrote: 06 Jul 2025 21:30 pm
rbirules wrote: 06 Jul 2025 19:25 pm
SameOldBlues wrote: 06 Jul 2025 16:59 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 16:50 pm Buffalo is taking Byram to arbitration.
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1941977134668325136
So in typical Buffalo fashion, are they screwing themselves by keeping him one more year and then losing him for nothing after this year when he’s UFA?
I believe Byram has two years until he's an UFA. So Buffalo will still have a year of control of Byram (RFA) after the upcoming season.
I believe that since Buffalo took him to arbitration, the player and his agent get to pick the term…1 or 2 years…whichever they feel is best…so…If Byram picks 1 year…he becomes an UFA next season. All Buffalo did by taking him to arb…is take his ability to sign an offer sheet away from him…and control his playing rights for next season.
Yes and no. The team selected Arb so the player gets to select 1 or 2 years. This does not impact his status on when he becomes a UFA, which is in 2 years.

so if he stupidly selected 1 year, then he would still be a RFA at the end of next year with full arb rights again. If he correctly selects 2 years he completely negates buf's trading power and becomes a UFA at the end of the contract.

No one is going to trade for a Bo that can walk in 2 years. at least they wont give up anything worth his value.
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I don't know if this has been confirmed but I sure hope it has. I would hate to lose Lindstein or Stenberg so that we can sign Byram to a large contract. I like where the Blues stand at the moment ... with wiggle room to add if need be. People get injured in camp and preseason ... ya never know.
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so_crates wrote: 06 Jul 2025 22:01 pm
BobbyBlue wrote: 06 Jul 2025 21:30 pm
rbirules wrote: 06 Jul 2025 19:25 pm
SameOldBlues wrote: 06 Jul 2025 16:59 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 06 Jul 2025 16:50 pm Buffalo is taking Byram to arbitration.
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1941977134668325136
So in typical Buffalo fashion, are they screwing themselves by keeping him one more year and then losing him for nothing after this year when he’s UFA?
I believe Byram has two years until he's an UFA. So Buffalo will still have a year of control of Byram (RFA) after the upcoming season.
I believe that since Buffalo took him to arbitration, the player and his agent get to pick the term…1 or 2 years…whichever they feel is best…so…If Byram picks 1 year…he becomes an UFA next season. All Buffalo did by taking him to arb…is take his ability to sign an offer sheet away from him…and control his playing rights for next season.
Yes and no. The team selected Arb so the player gets to select 1 or 2 years. This does not impact his status on when he becomes a UFA, which is in 2 years.

so if he stupidly selected 1 year, then he would still be a RFA at the end of next year with full arb rights again. If he correctly selects 2 years he completely negates buf's trading power and becomes a UFA at the end of the contract.

No one is going to trade for a Bo that can walk in 2 years. at least they wont give up anything worth his value.
They can still sign him to whatever kind of contract the two sides agree on if they get it done prior to the arbitration hearing. He can also still be traded before or after. This basically just takes an offer sheet off the table.
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Yep a sign/trade is not only on the table but the most likely outcome. To where before it sounded like there was going to be an offer sheet (probably not from the Blues). Byram wants to cash in now, not play in Buffalo for 2 more years.

So he will agree to a sign/trade if the dollars are right. Hopefully Army still sees Buffalo in a tough spot with needing to trade him vs keeping a disgruntled player for 2 years then losing him.
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Decent player, but not worth the asking prices I'm seeing being thrown around (everything from Neighbours, to Binnington, to 2 firsts, a second, and a third). I don't see anything in his stats that make him a "must-have" piece of the puzzle, and his concussion history makes me extra hesitant.
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Apparently the want a roster play so I would only offer Texier or Joseph. Neighbors is off limits to me!

faulk can go...I d even offee Kessel or really and Dman except Linstein.
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How is this still a hot rumor? (OK NOW THAT I POST THIS__IT WILL HAPPEN)

Buffalo filed arbitration. He will now get signed. Doesnt seem like hes being moved in the near future.


He may get moved..someday.
Im moving on.
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BluesDom wrote: 07 Jul 2025 17:00 pm How is this still a hot rumor? (OK NOW THAT I POST THIS__IT WILL HAPPEN)

Buffalo filed arbitration. He will now get signed. Doesnt seem like hes being moved in the near future.


He may get moved..someday.
Im moving on.
That should make trading him even more urgent, making it to arbitration is probably worst case scenario for them.
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BluesDom wrote: 07 Jul 2025 17:00 pm How is this still a hot rumor? (OK NOW THAT I POST THIS__IT WILL HAPPEN)

Buffalo filed arbitration. He will now get signed. Doesnt seem like hes being moved in the near future.


He may get moved..someday.
Im moving on.
I think they were trying to avoid being offer-sheeted
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BluesDom wrote: 07 Jul 2025 17:00 pm How is this still a hot rumor? (OK NOW THAT I POST THIS__IT WILL HAPPEN)

Buffalo filed arbitration. He will now get signed. Doesnt seem like hes being moved in the near future.


He may get moved..someday.
Im moving on.
He can still be traded. And the Sabres filing now allows a Byram to walk himself right to UFA status. If this actually goes to arbitration, his trade value likely goes way down as he’s then a pending UFA. So if Buffalo is going to trade him, there’s no better time than right now.

That said, I don’t want Byram. I just don’t see him as a good fit, don’t want to pay the likely acquisition cost and don’t want to sign him for what I think he’d cost longterm.
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Re: Byram and the Blues still a hot rumor

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ForumPolice wrote: 07 Jul 2025 17:13 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Jul 2025 17:00 pm How is this still a hot rumor? (OK NOW THAT I POST THIS__IT WILL HAPPEN)

Buffalo filed arbitration. He will now get signed. Doesnt seem like hes being moved in the near future.


He may get moved..someday.
Im moving on.
I think they were trying to avoid being offer-sheeted
Yeah and now they have to try to avoid making it to arbitration as neither are good options for them. Hopefully we are putting the squeeze on them as the clock ticks even if we miss out.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 07 Jul 2025 17:18 pm
BluesDom wrote: 07 Jul 2025 17:00 pm How is this still a hot rumor? (OK NOW THAT I POST THIS__IT WILL HAPPEN)

Buffalo filed arbitration. He will now get signed. Doesnt seem like hes being moved in the near future.


He may get moved..someday.
Im moving on.
He can still be traded. And the Sabres filing now allows a Byram to walk himself right to UFA status. If this actually goes to arbitration, his trade value likely goes way down as he’s then a pending UFA. So if Buffalo is going to trade him, there’s no better time than right now.

That said, I don’t want Byram. I just don’t see him as a good fit, don’t want to pay the likely acquisition cost and don’t want to sign him for what I think he’d cost longterm.
The only good option left is as a rental but that is sketchy for Buffalo as they cannot trade him if they are in the playoff hunt. They can't let this get to arbitration IMO so I'd have an offer on the table...just not a very good one.
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