Last few starts Roby. Mathews. Hence. Taylor. Mcgreevy

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Last few starts Roby. Mathews. Hence. Taylor. Mcgreevy

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I added Curtis Taylor based on his recent performance
RHP 6' 6" 235 lbs Age: 29

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What are your thoughts on whether now is the time to try a couple of new starters.

The two I am thinking of are Fedde and Mikolas
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Sorry about the image view of the stats. I'm trying to find how to get my jpg into the message.
Don't know how to create a table with data columns lined up.

Any experts that can help me? Thanks
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McGreevy is your only one viable enough to start at the MLB level.

Roby's fastball location is hit or miss, you want him on the edges, and he's missing heart of the plate and up, and those pitches are being crushed. He had 2 balls smacked hard last night and one of them was helped by 15 foot wall in LCF. It was a HR in almost every MLB park, but he got away with an off the top of the wall double. He's had a really season, he's well over his innings mark the last 2 seasons, so I can't imagine him starting games in the MLB as the season moves along. Targeting 100 total innings for him, which is more than double last year.

Mathews is inconsistent with the Fastball location, which sets up his bottom dropping change up.

Hence isn't physically ready.

Taylor is doing really well in Memphis, maybe the MLB team can use him...but that would be a White Flag surrender move. He doesn't strike out many and relies on his defense to back him up.
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craviduce wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:51 pm McGreevy is your only one viable enough to start at the MLB level.

Roby's fastball location is hit or miss, you want him on the edges, and he's missing heart of the plate and up, and those pitches are being crushed. He had 2 balls smacked hard last night and one of them was helped by 15 foot wall in LCF. It was a HR in almost every MLB park, but he got away with an off the top of the wall double. He's had a really season, he's well over his innings mark the last 2 seasons, so I can't imagine him starting games in the MLB as the season moves along. Targeting 100 total innings for him, which is more than double last year.

Mathews is inconsistent with the Fastball location, which sets up his bottom dropping change up.

Hence isn't physically ready.

Taylor is doing really well in Memphis, maybe the MLB team can use him...but that would be a White Flag surrender move. He doesn't strike out many and relies on his defense to back him up.
Great analysis. I agree. Watching Roby with all his stuff is frustrating b/c of the lack of control in and around the zone. Mathews has a lot to prove.
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craviduce wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:51 pm McGreevy is your only one viable enough to start at the MLB level.

Roby's fastball location is hit or miss, you want him on the edges, and he's missing heart of the plate and up, and those pitches are being crushed. He had 2 balls smacked hard last night and one of them was helped by 15 foot wall in LCF. It was a HR in almost every MLB park, but he got away with an off the top of the wall double. He's had a really season, he's well over his innings mark the last 2 seasons, so I can't imagine him starting games in the MLB as the season moves along. Targeting 100 total innings for him, which is more than double last year.

Mathews is inconsistent with the Fastball location, which sets up his bottom dropping change up.

Hence isn't physically ready.

Taylor is doing really well in Memphis, maybe the MLB team can use him...but that would be a White Flag surrender move. He doesn't strike out many and relies on his defense to back him up.
"He's had a really season", What the heck? Not sure how reliable your analysis is. You missed badly on Burleson. Who's probably the Cardinals top hitter, right now.
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As we’ve found out with Liberatore a young LH like Mathews needs a wide berth.
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Shady wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:58 pm
craviduce wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:51 pm McGreevy is your only one viable enough to start at the MLB level.

Roby's fastball location is hit or miss, you want him on the edges, and he's missing heart of the plate and up, and those pitches are being crushed. He had 2 balls smacked hard last night and one of them was helped by 15 foot wall in LCF. It was a HR in almost every MLB park, but he got away with an off the top of the wall double. He's had a really season, he's well over his innings mark the last 2 seasons, so I can't imagine him starting games in the MLB as the season moves along. Targeting 100 total innings for him, which is more than double last year.

Mathews is inconsistent with the Fastball location, which sets up his bottom dropping change up.

Hence isn't physically ready.

Taylor is doing really well in Memphis, maybe the MLB team can use him...but that would be a White Flag surrender move. He doesn't strike out many and relies on his defense to back him up.
"He's had a really season", What the heck? Not sure how reliable your analysis is. You missed badly on Burleson. Who's probably the Cardinals top hitter, right now.
How about S[top] T[hose] F[raudulent] U[tterances]... he skipped a word who gaf.

I'll take that every single post from someone who regularly contributes, unlike someone like you who contributes nothing except spam.
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3dender wrote: 05 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
Shady wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:58 pm
craviduce wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:51 pm McGreevy is your only one viable enough to start at the MLB level.

Roby's fastball location is hit or miss, you want him on the edges, and he's missing heart of the plate and up, and those pitches are being crushed. He had 2 balls smacked hard last night and one of them was helped by 15 foot wall in LCF. It was a HR in almost every MLB park, but he got away with an off the top of the wall double. He's had a really season, he's well over his innings mark the last 2 seasons, so I can't imagine him starting games in the MLB as the season moves along. Targeting 100 total innings for him, which is more than double last year.

Mathews is inconsistent with the Fastball location, which sets up his bottom dropping change up.

Hence isn't physically ready.

Taylor is doing really well in Memphis, maybe the MLB team can use him...but that would be a White Flag surrender move. He doesn't strike out many and relies on his defense to back him up.
"He's had a really season", What the heck? Not sure how reliable your analysis is. You missed badly on Burleson. Who's probably the Cardinals top hitter, right now.
How about S[top] T[hose] F[raudulent] U[tterances]... he skipped a word who gaf.

I'll take that every single post from someone who regularly contributes, unlike someone like you who contributes nothing except spam.
LOL I feel your frustration as do the rest of us!
But the BEST part of his post is the OP is about starting pitchers and yet he SOMEHOW found the need to insert BURLESON into the conversation???
Mentally challenged and hopefully he gets the needed help?
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cards53 wrote: 05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm
Obviously Hence is not an option to be called up this year.

I definitely think Mikolas needs to be taken out of the rotation and replaced by Mcgreevy.
Mcgreevy has been looking great. His last two starts for the cards have been on 4 days rest.
He has been on at least 5 days rest for most, if not all, his Memphis starts.
Think that might have hurt his STL starts.

Taylor is an interesting case. He was in Independent and Mexican leagues the last 2 years.
Cards must have seen something that made them sign him and decide to put him on AAA roster.
Other than Mcgreevy he has been best Memphis starter this year.
He will be 30 years old in late July.
If roster spots open up, a couple of Stl starts should give us a clue as to see whether to DFA him.
Don't think the DFA would find any suiters and he would still be in Memphis.
If he is a positive surprise, 3 to 5 years could help us until some of the prospects are ready.

I'm hoping Mathews and Roby might progress this year to September roster.

I'm not expecting Cards to stay in the chase this year and trade deadline will open up some roster spots.
Hope Gray, Arenado and Helsley are great leading up to the trade deadline and we can get good trade returns.
Wouldn't mind Contreras going also. Need Herrera at 1B in future.
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Don't know how to create a table with data columns lined up.
Try using the code tags. It's the </> option when you post a reply. I've had success using a word editor and then pasting the wrapped table to the reply box.
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cards53 wrote: 05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm I used attachments and dragged my .jpg into the message box:
Thanks for the layout. I love that stuff.
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cards53 wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:04 pm Sorry about the image view of the stats. I'm trying to find how to get my jpg into the message.
Don't know how to create a table with data columns lined up.

Any experts that can help me? Thanks
You can snap the screen shot then add th image as an attachment. The control is a tab at the bottom of the edit window.

But the trick is getting the image to be small enough file size for the system to allow the attachment
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RunSup wrote: 05 Jul 2025 16:36 pm
cards53 wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:04 pm Sorry about the image view of the stats. I'm trying to find how to get my jpg into the message.
Don't know how to create a table with data columns lined up.

Any experts that can help me? Thanks
You can snap the screen shot then add th image as an attachment. The control is a tab at the bottom of the edit window.

But the trick is getting the image to be small enough file size for the system to allow the attachment
Never mind. I should have scrolled down. You figured it out
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cards53 wrote: 05 Jul 2025 13:42 pm I used attachments and dragged my .jpg into the message box:
McGreevy and Roby would be the ones to give a look sooner.

Mathew's and Hence are coming off injuries earlier in the year. I don't know the other guy.
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Cusecards wrote: 05 Jul 2025 13:58 pm
3dender wrote: 05 Jul 2025 13:47 pm
Shady wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:58 pm
craviduce wrote: 05 Jul 2025 12:51 pm McGreevy is your only one viable enough to start at the MLB level.

Roby's fastball location is hit or miss, you want him on the edges, and he's missing heart of the plate and up, and those pitches are being crushed. He had 2 balls smacked hard last night and one of them was helped by 15 foot wall in LCF. It was a HR in almost every MLB park, but he got away with an off the top of the wall double. He's had a really season, he's well over his innings mark the last 2 seasons, so I can't imagine him starting games in the MLB as the season moves along. Targeting 100 total innings for him, which is more than double last year.

Mathews is inconsistent with the Fastball location, which sets up his bottom dropping change up.

Hence isn't physically ready.

Taylor is doing really well in Memphis, maybe the MLB team can use him...but that would be a White Flag surrender move. He doesn't strike out many and relies on his defense to back him up.
"He's had a really season", What the heck? Not sure how reliable your analysis is. You missed badly on Burleson. Who's probably the Cardinals top hitter, right now.
How about S[top] T[hose] F[raudulent] U[tterances]... he skipped a word who gaf.

I'll take that every single post from someone who regularly contributes, unlike someone like you who contributes nothing except spam.
LOL I feel your frustration as do the rest of us!
But the BEST part of his post is the OP is about starting pitchers and yet he SOMEHOW found the need to insert BURLESON into the conversation???
Mentally challenged and hopefully he gets the needed help?
Don't be concerned about me, Chief. You simply aren't in my league regarding Cardinals baseball. Not many are. That's why the whiners, like you, are so defensive.
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