GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:38 pm Wtf is Counsel doing?
Mocking us.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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Haha! Man, I picked a great afternoon to take a long, much-needed nap. Got to be the most bipolar team in Cards history.

Win big or lose even bigger seems to be their MO. Not a lot in between.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:27 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:25 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:22 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:20 pm
todd-parker wrote: 04 Jul 2025 14:56 pm Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are the Cards gonna be buyers at the trade deadline?
As they did 2 seasons ago at the deadline they’ll start with the pending FA’s.
Any they don’t intend to attempt to resign should be moved.
Helsley probably the biggest decision of the bunch.
I like Matz but health is always a question.
Then there of course is Arenado.
Gray? Contreras?
I think they stay.
I’d put Nootbaar in a package before his value slips to nothing.
They have some position player depth to deal from.
You're confusing quantity with quality.

This organization has done that for years.
The question was about the types of moves they might make?
I never said they were going to get great talent back.
You mentioned position player depth.

Where?
They have some decent depth in the system at Catcher to deal from.
In the Infield:
1B- Contreras/Burleson
2B- Gorman/Donovan/Saggese
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado

Wetherholt probably forced himself onto the field in 2026. So add him to IF depth.
The OF needs upgrade.
I would move Nootbaar before his value drops to nothing.
Of course Donovan or Burleson could factor at corner OF.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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Absolut wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:41 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:38 pm Wtf is Counsel doing?
Mocking us.
Yep...he's saying...'in your face!'
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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Meanwhile Pop doing his mime imitation coaching at 3rd.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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Did we trade mikolas? Looked like him closing for the cubs.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:27 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:25 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:22 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:20 pm
todd-parker wrote: 04 Jul 2025 14:56 pm Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are the Cards gonna be buyers at the trade deadline?
As they did 2 seasons ago at the deadline they’ll start with the pending FA’s.
Any they don’t intend to attempt to resign should be moved.
Helsley probably the biggest decision of the bunch.
I like Matz but health is always a question.
Then there of course is Arenado.
Gray? Contreras?
I think they stay.
I’d put Nootbaar in a package before his value slips to nothing.
They have some position player depth to deal from.
You're confusing quantity with quality.

This organization has done that for years.
The question was about the types of moves they might make?
I never said they were going to get great talent back.
You mentioned position player depth.

Where?
They have some decent depth in the system at Catcher to deal from.
In the Infield:
1B- Contreras/Burleson
2B- Gorman/Donovan/Saggese
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado

Wetherholt probably forced himself onto the field in 2026. So add him to IF depth.
The OF needs upgrade.
I would move Nootbaar before his value drops to nothing.
Of course Donovan or Burleson could factor at corner OF.
You're still talking quantity when speaking about Gorman and Saggese.

Contreras isn't going anywhere and Burleson is looked upon as a DH by most accounts.

As for "depth" at catcher none of those players are proven at the big show level.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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and this one mercifully comes to an end.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:47 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:27 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:25 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:22 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:20 pm
todd-parker wrote: 04 Jul 2025 14:56 pm Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are the Cards gonna be buyers at the trade deadline?
As they did 2 seasons ago at the deadline they’ll start with the pending FA’s.
Any they don’t intend to attempt to resign should be moved.
Helsley probably the biggest decision of the bunch.
I like Matz but health is always a question.
Then there of course is Arenado.
Gray? Contreras?
I think they stay.
I’d put Nootbaar in a package before his value slips to nothing.
They have some position player depth to deal from.
You're confusing quantity with quality.

This organization has done that for years.
The question was about the types of moves they might make?
I never said they were going to get great talent back.
You mentioned position player depth.

Where?
They have some decent depth in the system at Catcher to deal from.
In the Infield:
1B- Contreras/Burleson
2B- Gorman/Donovan/Saggese
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado

Wetherholt probably forced himself onto the field in 2026. So add him to IF depth.
The OF needs upgrade.
I would move Nootbaar before his value drops to nothing.
Of course Donovan or Burleson could factor at corner OF.
You're still talking quantity when speaking about Gorman and Saggese.

Contreras isn't going anywhere and Burleson is looked upon as a DH by most accounts.

As for "depth" at catcher none of those players are proven at the big show level.
Ok....whatever???
JFC.....LMFAO the guy asked a simple question about “buying” or “selling” at the deadline?
I responded back with what the FO MIGHT DO????
Didn’t say they were looking to build a juggernaut.
I’m simply a fan who follows the team.
I don’t have a say.
I don’t draft or develop.
What do you propose they do????
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:52 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:47 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:27 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:25 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:22 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:20 pm
todd-parker wrote: 04 Jul 2025 14:56 pm Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are the Cards gonna be buyers at the trade deadline?
As they did 2 seasons ago at the deadline they’ll start with the pending FA’s.
Any they don’t intend to attempt to resign should be moved.
Helsley probably the biggest decision of the bunch.
I like Matz but health is always a question.
Then there of course is Arenado.
Gray? Contreras?
I think they stay.
I’d put Nootbaar in a package before his value slips to nothing.
They have some position player depth to deal from.
You're confusing quantity with quality.

This organization has done that for years.
The question was about the types of moves they might make?
I never said they were going to get great talent back.
You mentioned position player depth.

Where?
They have some decent depth in the system at Catcher to deal from.
In the Infield:
1B- Contreras/Burleson
2B- Gorman/Donovan/Saggese
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado

Wetherholt probably forced himself onto the field in 2026. So add him to IF depth.
The OF needs upgrade.
I would move Nootbaar before his value drops to nothing.
Of course Donovan or Burleson could factor at corner OF.
You're still talking quantity when speaking about Gorman and Saggese.

Contreras isn't going anywhere and Burleson is looked upon as a DH by most accounts.

As for "depth" at catcher none of those players are proven at the big show level.
Ok....whatever???
JFC.....LMFAO the guy asked a simple question about “buying” or “selling” at the deadline?
I responded back with what the FO MIGHT DO????
Didn’t say they were looking to build a juggernaut.
I’m simply a fan who follows the team.
I don’t have a say.
I don’t draft or develop.
What do you propose they do????
Heah man it's all good.

Wasn't trying to upset you.

I just don't put as much stock in what we have position wise as some do that's all.

Simple disagreement. Have a good 4th.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

Post by cardsfaninla »

To sum up the argument....

"The Cards are terrible!"
"No, they are really really bad!"
"No, you are wrong. They are worse than really really bad!"
"You are a jerk!"
"No, you are!"

Happy Independence Day!
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:56 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:52 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:47 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:27 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:25 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:22 pm
Cusecards wrote: 04 Jul 2025 15:20 pm
todd-parker wrote: 04 Jul 2025 14:56 pm Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are the Cards gonna be buyers at the trade deadline?
As they did 2 seasons ago at the deadline they’ll start with the pending FA’s.
Any they don’t intend to attempt to resign should be moved.
Helsley probably the biggest decision of the bunch.
I like Matz but health is always a question.
Then there of course is Arenado.
Gray? Contreras?
I think they stay.
I’d put Nootbaar in a package before his value slips to nothing.
They have some position player depth to deal from.
You're confusing quantity with quality.

This organization has done that for years.
The question was about the types of moves they might make?
I never said they were going to get great talent back.
You mentioned position player depth.

Where?
They have some decent depth in the system at Catcher to deal from.
In the Infield:
1B- Contreras/Burleson
2B- Gorman/Donovan/Saggese
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado

Wetherholt probably forced himself onto the field in 2026. So add him to IF depth.
The OF needs upgrade.
I would move Nootbaar before his value drops to nothing.
Of course Donovan or Burleson could factor at corner OF.
You're still talking quantity when speaking about Gorman and Saggese.

Contreras isn't going anywhere and Burleson is looked upon as a DH by most accounts.

As for "depth" at catcher none of those players are proven at the big show level.
Ok....whatever???
JFC.....LMFAO the guy asked a simple question about “buying” or “selling” at the deadline?
I responded back with what the FO MIGHT DO????
Didn’t say they were looking to build a juggernaut.
I’m simply a fan who follows the team.
I don’t have a say.
I don’t draft or develop.
What do you propose they do????
Heah man it's all good.

Wasn't trying to upset you.

I just don't put as much stock in what we have position wise as some do that's all.

Simple disagreement. Have a good 4th.
Hey just baseball talk.
Hope you and the family have a great weekend also.
Stay safe!
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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Cubs hit back to back HRs three times in this game. That's got to be some kind of record.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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todd-parker wrote: 04 Jul 2025 16:11 pm Cubs hit back to back HRs three times in this game. That's got to be some kind of record.
Most HR ever in one game by a team is 10. They were close. Likely the most HR anyone'(poop) in one game this season.
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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (7/4) Fourth of July!! ~ 1:20pm CDT

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I just wasted $4.99 for a one month subscription to Apple TV just so i could watch the game.
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