Missing basics of baseball

[bluecard04]

Noot bunts runner to 2nd in 9th with no out and we atleast tie Pirates.
Tired of players that can’t do the basics as they and managers just give games away.
The 13 runners left in scoring position didn’t help either!

[sikeston bulldog2]

Noot bunts runner to 2nd in 9th with no out and we atleast tie Pirates.
Tired of players that can’t do the basics as they and managers just give games away.
The 13 runners left in scoring position didn’t help either!

Are you sure the 13 runners were all in scoring position. That’s a huge amount. Sure it’s not just runners left on base.

[WLTFE]

Noot bunts runner to 2nd in 9th with no out and we atleast tie Pirates.
Tired of players that can’t do the basics as they and managers just give games away.
The 13 runners left in scoring position didn’t help either!

Are you sure the 13 runners were all in scoring position. That’s a huge amount. Sure it’s not just runners left on base.

They had 10 LOB...and 1-13 with RISP...another [shirt]ty effort.

[scoutyjones2]

Noot bunts runner to 2nd in 9th with no out and we atleast tie Pirates.
Tired of players that can’t do the basics as they and managers just give games away.
The 13 runners left in scoring position didn’t help either!

So many question:

How did the manager give the game away?

Have you seen major Leaguers inability to bunt?

Even if the runner gets moved to 2nd, no guarantees he scores?

Did you watch the game?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Noot bunts runner to 2nd in 9th with no out and we atleast tie Pirates.
Tired of players that can’t do the basics as they and managers just give games away.
The 13 runners left in scoring position didn’t help either!

So many question:

How did the manager give the game away?

Have you seen major Leaguers inability to bunt?

Even if the runner gets moved to 2nd, no guarantees he scores?

Did you watch the game?

Yes we also gave runners away on the bases. A break here or there and it’s a different conversation.

[dugoutrex]

1 for 13 ... in the series

[sikeston bulldog2]

1 for 13 ... in the series

Makes more sense.

[Honky Tonk Man]

Contreras is a pitiful base runner but that 240 batting average and 80+ strikeouts make up for it

[Futuregm2]

Noot bunts runner to 2nd in 9th with no out and we atleast tie Pirates.
Tired of players that can’t do the basics as they and managers just give games away.
The 13 runners left in scoring position didn’t help either!

Or if Fermin could bunt we would have had 2nd and 3rd with 1 out in the 4th inning. But Fermin couldn’t do that either. And Contreras would have easily scored on the single and maybe Gorman would have as well.

[scoutyjones2]

Noot bunts runner to 2nd in 9th with no out and we atleast tie Pirates.
Tired of players that can’t do the basics as they and managers just give games away.
The 13 runners left in scoring position didn’t help either!

Or if Fermin could bunt we would have had 2nd and 3rd with 1 out in the 4th inning. But Fermin couldn’t do that either. And Contreras would have easily scored on the single and maybe Gorman would have as well.

I'm just gonna spit this out there...if you change the outcome of an earlier AB (successful bunt) you can't assume the same single happens

[Futuregm2]

Noot bunts runner to 2nd in 9th with no out and we atleast tie Pirates.
Tired of players that can’t do the basics as they and managers just give games away.
The 13 runners left in scoring position didn’t help either!

Or if Fermin could bunt we would have had 2nd and 3rd with 1 out in the 4th inning. But Fermin couldn’t do that either. And Contreras would have easily scored on the single and maybe Gorman would have as well.

I'm just gonna spit this out there...if you change the outcome of an earlier AB (successful bunt) you can't assume the same single happens

Maybe, maybe not. But it certainly would have given us a better shot. Bigger point is that Fermin couldn’t get a bunt over because baseball players suck nowadays at bunting. Even players like Fermin who can’t really do anything else well.

[scoutyjones2]

Noot bunts runner to 2nd in 9th with no out and we atleast tie Pirates.
Tired of players that can’t do the basics as they and managers just give games away.
The 13 runners left in scoring position didn’t help either!

Or if Fermin could bunt we would have had 2nd and 3rd with 1 out in the 4th inning. But Fermin couldn’t do that either. And Contreras would have easily scored on the single and maybe Gorman would have as well.

I'm just gonna spit this out there...if you change the outcome of an earlier AB (successful bunt) you can't assume the same single happens

Maybe, maybe not. But it certainly would have given us a better shot.

Yes. Successful sacrifices increase the possibility of scoring.

They didn't, and it was pathetic, but that's why baseball is so interesting, exciting, and frustrating

[illiniriles]

Bunting should STILL be a part of the game. Especially in a tight game. Especially if you have difficulty scoring runs. And even more importantly if we're the home team tied in the bottom of extras with the Commissioner's Runner on 2nd leading off an inning. One run literally wins the game in that scenario, for crying out loud. Heard on the radio, just the other day that Manny Mota had 4 bunt base hits in a single game (a record, of course). The late great Rod Carew used to say he could count on at least one bunting base hit per game if he tried. If you have speed and if we need base runners, bunting should absolutely be part of your arsenal. And let's not forget that a big part of us sweeping the Tigers the last time we faced them in the World Series was their inability to field a bunt. That's just my take on the matter. But then, I'm over 50. (66)

[rockondlouie]

The inability to hit not one but two sac flies is what cost them the game, whereas the Pirates were able to get their sac fly.

Cards blew a game where Pallante outdueled Skenes.

Wasted effort.

[bccardsfan]

The inability to hit not one but two sac flies is what cost them the game, whereas the Pirates were able to get their sac fly.

Cards blew a game where Pallante outdueled Skenes.

Wasted effort.

Yes, and they also ran themselves out of an inning. They played poor fundamental ball and when you do that.... it costs you in most games. They need to tighten up the ship. Also, by using Fermin as the DH that limited your ability to use Nado in a key spot for an AB. I would also have used Pozo earlier for Pages to get the sac fly (if my memory of the game is correct). Pages has gone quite cold with the bat, and Pozo is hot. You need contact and a medium fly. Pozo gives you a much better chance and he is not a terrible catcher in the field. Whatever... poor execution on many fronts cost them a 1 run game.

[rockondlouie]

The inability to hit not one but two sac flies is what cost them the game, whereas the Pirates were able to get their sac fly.

Cards blew a game where Pallante outdueled Skenes.

Wasted effort.

Yes, and they also ran themselves out of an inning. They played poor fundamental ball and when you do that.... it costs you in most games. They need to tighten up the ship. Also, by using Fermin as the DH that limited your ability to use Nado in a key spot for an AB. I would also have used Pozo earlier for Pages to get the sac fly (if my memory of the game is correct). Pages has gone quite cold with the bat, and Pozo is hot. You need contact and a medium fly. Pozo gives you a much better chance and he is not a terrible catcher in the field. Whatever... poor execution on many fronts cost them a 1 run game.

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