Where are all of the Burleson doubter's now ?

[3dender]

Good hitter, mediocre glove. Like his spirit and effort. Whether I would keep him all depends on what is offered back in a trade or the price of a contract. If you can keep him for under $8M, he fits on the team. If you are offered a young player with high ceiling or a 1-2 round draft pick you trade him.

Burly is a nice complimentary piece for a set team, but not a franchise builder. In the OF, he blocks a potential big bat. Same at 1b. He just isn't what the Cards need to build around.

He is an excellent first baseman and a decent outfielder, unfortunately we have a catcher playing first base.

If he is a complimentary piece what do you call Gormon and Walker?

The catcher you're rolling your eyes at has been like the 2nd best defensive 1B in the league so far this year. He also happens to have six .800+ OPS seasons under his belt, which is infinity times more than Burleson's zero.

[Barking Lion]

Good hitter, mediocre glove. Like his spirit and effort. Whether I would keep him all depends on what is offered back in a trade or the price of a contract. If you can keep him for under $8M, he fits on the team. If you are offered a young player with high ceiling or a 1-2 round draft pick you trade him.

Burly is a nice complimentary piece for a set team, but not a franchise builder. In the OF, he blocks a potential big bat. Same at 1b. He just isn't what the Cards need to build around.

He is an excellent first baseman and a decent outfielder, unfortunately we have a catcher playing first base.

If he is a complimentary piece what do you call Gormon and Walker?

I know this is an old thread, but I want to respond to this-

Yes, we have a lapsed catcher playing DH (and hitting fine, thank you). It is more evidence that this team is not built for long-term success the way it is currently constituted. Gorman, Walker and Burly should all be DH. The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling. He is a complimentary piece, high floor, mediocre ceiling. Gorman and Walker, on the other hand are high ceiling, low floor guys who have not reached potential. If they develop, they will be star players to build around. That is a big "If" right now. So you hang on to your safe bet (Burly) unless someone offers a Gorman-Walkerish player who is meeting potential.

[Cusecards]

Fingers crossed that Burleson is having a “breakout” season?
I see that SOCK BOY started the daily Burly OP!

[Shady]

Good hitter, mediocre glove. Like his spirit and effort. Whether I would keep him all depends on what is offered back in a trade or the price of a contract. If you can keep him for under $8M, he fits on the team. If you are offered a young player with high ceiling or a 1-2 round draft pick you trade him.

Burly is a nice complimentary piece for a set team, but not a franchise builder. In the OF, he blocks a potential big bat. Same at 1b. He just isn't what the Cards need to build around.

He is an excellent first baseman and a decent outfielder, unfortunately we have a catcher playing first base.

If he is a complimentary piece what do you call Gormon and Walker?

I know this is an old thread, but I want to respond to this-

Yes, we have a lapsed catcher playing DH (and hitting fine, thank you). It is more evidence that this team is not built for long-term success the way it is currently constituted. Gorman, Walker and Burly should all be DH. The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling. He is a complimentary piece, high floor, mediocre ceiling. Gorman and Walker, on the other hand are high ceiling, low floor guys who have not reached potential. If they develop, they will be star players to build around. That is a big "If" right now. So you hang on to your safe bet (Burly) unless someone offers a Gorman-Walkerish player who is meeting potential.

"The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling" How can you be sure of that?.

[Mort Gage]

Good hitter, mediocre glove. Like his spirit and effort. Whether I would keep him all depends on what is offered back in a trade or the price of a contract. If you can keep him for under $8M, he fits on the team. If you are offered a young player with high ceiling or a 1-2 round draft pick you trade him.

Burly is a nice complimentary piece for a set team, but not a franchise builder. In the OF, he blocks a potential big bat. Same at 1b. He just isn't what the Cards need to build around.

He is an excellent first baseman and a decent outfielder, unfortunately we have a catcher playing first base.

If he is a complimentary piece what do you call Gormon and Walker?

I know this is an old thread, but I want to respond to this-

Yes, we have a lapsed catcher playing DH (and hitting fine, thank you). It is more evidence that this team is not built for long-term success the way it is currently constituted. Gorman, Walker and Burly should all be DH. The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling. He is a complimentary piece, high floor, mediocre ceiling. Gorman and Walker, on the other hand are high ceiling, low floor guys who have not reached potential. If they develop, they will be star players to build around. That is a big "If" right now. So you hang on to your safe bet (Burly) unless someone offers a Gorman-Walkerish player who is meeting potential.

"The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling" How can you be sure of that?.

I believe you and HTM (most definitely NOT your sock) are right. I see his ceiling as a .325/.450/.550 35 HR/140 RBI hitter who plays a GG 1B. It's time to buy out Burleson's arb years. I wonder if 8/400 would get it done. 10/450 maybe?

[Adam2]

I will tell you where, they are down the end of a lonely street at Heartbreak Hotel

We are happy for him Shady

[thetank2]

Anyone eaten at Heavy Smoke. It is better than Salt+Smoke for brisket?

[CorneliusWolfe]

Good hitter, mediocre glove. Like his spirit and effort. Whether I would keep him all depends on what is offered back in a trade or the price of a contract. If you can keep him for under $8M, he fits on the team. If you are offered a young player with high ceiling or a 1-2 round draft pick you trade him.

Burly is a nice complimentary piece for a set team, but not a franchise builder. In the OF, he blocks a potential big bat. Same at 1b. He just isn't what the Cards need to build around.

He is an excellent first baseman and a decent outfielder, unfortunately we have a catcher playing first base.

If he is a complimentary piece what do you call Gormon and Walker?

I know this is an old thread, but I want to respond to this-

Yes, we have a lapsed catcher playing DH (and hitting fine, thank you). It is more evidence that this team is not built for long-term success the way it is currently constituted. Gorman, Walker and Burly should all be DH. The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling. He is a complimentary piece, high floor, mediocre ceiling. Gorman and Walker, on the other hand are high ceiling, low floor guys who have not reached potential. If they develop, they will be star players to build around. That is a big "If" right now. So you hang on to your safe bet (Burly) unless someone offers a Gorman-Walkerish player who is meeting potential.

"The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling" How can you be sure of that?.

I believe you and HTM (most definitely NOT your sock) are right. I see his ceiling as a .325/.450/.550 35 HR/140 RBI hitter who plays a GG 1B. It's time to buy out Burleson's arb years. I wonder if 8/400 would get it done. 10/450 maybe?

That’s not even Ohtani money. Burly deserves twice as much.

[Absolut]

Anyone eaten at Heavy Smoke. It is better than Salt+Smoke for brisket?

Beast craft!

[Mort Gage]

Good hitter, mediocre glove. Like his spirit and effort. Whether I would keep him all depends on what is offered back in a trade or the price of a contract. If you can keep him for under $8M, he fits on the team. If you are offered a young player with high ceiling or a 1-2 round draft pick you trade him.

Burly is a nice complimentary piece for a set team, but not a franchise builder. In the OF, he blocks a potential big bat. Same at 1b. He just isn't what the Cards need to build around.

He is an excellent first baseman and a decent outfielder, unfortunately we have a catcher playing first base.

If he is a complimentary piece what do you call Gormon and Walker?

I know this is an old thread, but I want to respond to this-

Yes, we have a lapsed catcher playing DH (and hitting fine, thank you). It is more evidence that this team is not built for long-term success the way it is currently constituted. Gorman, Walker and Burly should all be DH. The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling. He is a complimentary piece, high floor, mediocre ceiling. Gorman and Walker, on the other hand are high ceiling, low floor guys who have not reached potential. If they develop, they will be star players to build around. That is a big "If" right now. So you hang on to your safe bet (Burly) unless someone offers a Gorman-Walkerish player who is meeting potential.

"The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling" How can you be sure of that?.

I believe you and HTM (most definitely NOT your sock) are right. I see his ceiling as a .325/.450/.550 35 HR/140 RBI hitter who plays a GG 1B. It's time to buy out Burleson's arb years. I wonder if 8/400 would get it done. 10/450 maybe?

That’s not even Ohtani money. Burly deserves twice as much.

That's right, I forgot he can pitch, too.

[Youboughtit]

I will tell you where, they are down the end of a lonely street at Heartbreak Hotel

He can hit but needs to be a DH only. If they do that I’m fine with him.

[Barking Lion]

Good hitter, mediocre glove. Like his spirit and effort. Whether I would keep him all depends on what is offered back in a trade or the price of a contract. If you can keep him for under $8M, he fits on the team. If you are offered a young player with high ceiling or a 1-2 round draft pick you trade him.

Burly is a nice complimentary piece for a set team, but not a franchise builder. In the OF, he blocks a potential big bat. Same at 1b. He just isn't what the Cards need to build around.

He is an excellent first baseman and a decent outfielder, unfortunately we have a catcher playing first base.

If he is a complimentary piece what do you call Gormon and Walker?

I know this is an old thread, but I want to respond to this-

Yes, we have a lapsed catcher playing DH (and hitting fine, thank you). It is more evidence that this team is not built for long-term success the way it is currently constituted. Gorman, Walker and Burly should all be DH. The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling. He is a complimentary piece, high floor, mediocre ceiling. Gorman and Walker, on the other hand are high ceiling, low floor guys who have not reached potential. If they develop, they will be star players to build around. That is a big "If" right now. So you hang on to your safe bet (Burly) unless someone offers a Gorman-Walkerish player who is meeting potential.

"The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling" How can you be sure of that?.

My opinion is based upon scouting reports of the three from the time they were drafted. If your infatuation for a player is such that you cannot see that the experts rate Burleson's tools below Gorman and Walker, you can't be helped. Can you tell the difference between Freddie Freeman and Justin Turner? The Dodgers would not build around Justin Turner. They built around the megatool players, Turner was merely a great complement.

[CorneliusWolfe]

Good hitter, mediocre glove. Like his spirit and effort. Whether I would keep him all depends on what is offered back in a trade or the price of a contract. If you can keep him for under $8M, he fits on the team. If you are offered a young player with high ceiling or a 1-2 round draft pick you trade him.

Burly is a nice complimentary piece for a set team, but not a franchise builder. In the OF, he blocks a potential big bat. Same at 1b. He just isn't what the Cards need to build around.

He is an excellent first baseman and a decent outfielder, unfortunately we have a catcher playing first base.

If he is a complimentary piece what do you call Gormon and Walker?

I know this is an old thread, but I want to respond to this-

Yes, we have a lapsed catcher playing DH (and hitting fine, thank you). It is more evidence that this team is not built for long-term success the way it is currently constituted. Gorman, Walker and Burly should all be DH. The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling. He is a complimentary piece, high floor, mediocre ceiling. Gorman and Walker, on the other hand are high ceiling, low floor guys who have not reached potential. If they develop, they will be star players to build around. That is a big "If" right now. So you hang on to your safe bet (Burly) unless someone offers a Gorman-Walkerish player who is meeting potential.

"The difference between Burly and those two is that Burly is pretty much near his ceiling" How can you be sure of that?.

How can you be sure otherwise? Having Burly-Fever and saying, "dude can friggen' hit!" isn't compelling evidence. He still hasn't put together a complete season yet and is almost arb eligible and given more sustained chances than any other young guy in recent years.

Which is fine for a low-ceiling high-floor role player. Which he is.

[DickyBennett]

I would trade Burleson asap

Bad bodied player with one tool, he is poor defensively wherever he plays

Wont take a walk either

[Cusecards]

Ok....Burly is no gazelle but he is not poor in the OF.
He has very good hands and a decent arm.
Slightly below average but not poor.
And normally he plays a solid 1B.

[Honky Tonk Man]

Ok....Burly is no gazelle but he is not poor in the OF.
He has very good hands and a decent arm.
Slightly below average but not poor.
And normally he plays a solid 1B.

Thank you finally someone willing to be honest