Logan Mailloux is coming!!

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

[a smell of green grass]

This case reminds me a bit of the Doug Gilmour in the late 80s.

Gilmour had to leave the Blues to start over based on his personal conduct. Gilmour turned out alright after his bad decision.

[skilles]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

[kimzey59]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

We weren't going to get a prospect like Maillioux for the likes of Texier.

[blackinkbiz]

Bolduc is a work in progress. His minutes in the playoffs are proof of that. So is Mailloux, and his mistakes have a big giant amplifier on them because of his position.
Two Goals and three assists in eight NHL Games is eye popping for a 20 and 21 year old defenseman.
He is 6’3 and a righty and turned 22 a couple of months ago.
He hits and has a cannon.
Once again, I disagree with many on the internet.
This is a big win, on paper.
There are precious few goddanged defensemen playing in the NHL at 20 and 21 years of age for whom the game is not some kind of an adventure.

I ain’t frowning.

Totally hope you're right but why hasn't Mailloux played more than 8 games over the past 2 seasons?

[skilles]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

We weren't going to get a prospect like Maillioux for the likes of Texier.

Well thats a pretty dumb response, lots of room between Bolduc and Texier

The Montreal fans didn't even expect that return and you know its not good when you gave up more than the fans thought their player was worth.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

Right. I see that possibility for sure. But if he ends up being a core top 4 guy here and we have success, it won't be a problem. Trades are not won or lost on the day of the trade especially when the trade involves a pair of 22 year olds.
I would guess that Stenberg was too young for montreal and the Blues weren't trading away snuggerud, holloway or dvorsky.

[noted]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

We weren't going to get a prospect like Maillioux for the likes of Texier.

Well thats a pretty dumb response, lots of room between Bolduc and Texier

The Montreal fans didn't even expect that return and you know its not good when you gave up more than the fans thought their player was worth.

A lot of Montreal fans thought they were getting Kyrou for Matheson, Dach, and a 2nd so I wouldn't put a lot of faith in their logic. This trade works for both teams - each traded from a position they had a surplus in.

[kimzey59]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

We weren't going to get a prospect like Maillioux for the likes of Texier.

Well thats a pretty dumb response, lots of room between Bolduc and Texier

The Montreal fans didn't even expect that return and you know its not good when you gave up more than the fans thought their player was worth.

I don't think there was a lot of room between them.
Not on our roster in any case. Bolduc was our #9 forward, Texier was our 1st option as a fill-in for a top 9 spot(our 10th top 9 forward).

Bolduc showed that there's a clear talent gap between the two of them; but in terms of our depth chart they were right next to each other.

[Bubble4427]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

What do you think we should have traded instead of Bolduc?
Seriously, 22 yr old defenseman that weigh 220 lbs and shoot right handed are the most scarce stock in the NHL.
Blues were heavy on the wing.
What would you have given?

[skilles]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

Right. I see that possibility for sure. But if he ends up being a core top 4 guy here and we have success, it won't be a problem. Trades are not won or lost on the day of the trade especially when the trade involves a pair of 22 year olds.
I would guess that Stenberg was too young for montreal and the Blues weren't trading away snuggerud, holloway or dvorsky.

I kind of disagree with that, trading more than it takes to get a player is bad no matter how he turns out.

I just don't think they get that return from anyone else.

I mean sure though it will be easier to live with if he turns out great but my point is if you trade a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick its a bad trade no matter how the players picked turn out.

[skilles]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

What do you think we should have traded instead of Bolduc?
Seriously, 22 yr old defenseman that weigh 220 lbs and shoot right handed are the most scarce stock in the NHL.
Blues were heavy on the wing.
What would you have given?

Well you named all the good things but I don't know if you have heard there are also some bad things or at least some devaluations.

All I can tell you is I would not have done Bolduc and yes I may have lost the deal but I would have stood firm on that and believe they would have taken less.

[Pierre McGuire]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

What do you think we should have traded instead of Bolduc?
Seriously, 22 yr old defenseman that weigh 220 lbs and shoot right handed are the most scarce stock in the NHL.
Blues were heavy on the wing.
What would you have given?

Well you named all the good things but I don't know if you have heard there are also some bad things or at least some devaluations.

All I can tell you is I would not have done Bolduc and yes I may have lost the deal but I would have stood firm on that and believe they would have taken less.

He's 22 and developing...NHL defense isn't easy. Did you watch game 7....that was an adventure for every Blue on the ice.

[Harry York 37]

Bolduc is a work in progress. His minutes in the playoffs are proof of that. So is Mailloux, and his mistakes have a big giant amplifier on them because of his position.
Two Goals and three assists in eight NHL Games is eye popping for a 20 and 21 year old defenseman.
He is 6’3 and a righty and turned 22 a couple of months ago.
He hits and has a cannon.
Once again, I disagree with many on the internet.
This is a big win, on paper.
There are precious few goddanged defensemen playing in the NHL at 20 and 21 years of age for whom the game is not some kind of an adventure.

I ain’t frowning.

Totally hope you're right but why hasn't Mailloux played more than 8 games over the past 2 seasons?

Are there very many 20-21 year old defensemen getting games in the NHL? I don't know the stat, but I doubt it. To get a player that checks so very many desirable boxes, and who just turned 22, for a guy who performs a far, far more "common" role and is a work in progress sounds like a dead-solid win to me.

I really like Bolduc. To see his progression from a large winger who had little idea of how to safely and properly matriculate the puck North, to the guy who got regular third-line minutes was inspiring. I have no reason to doubt that Mailloux has as sharp of a learning curve.

[IsDurbanodoingtime]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

We weren't going to get a prospect like Maillioux for the likes of Texier.

Well thats a pretty dumb response, lots of room between Bolduc and Texier

The Montreal fans didn't even expect that return and you know its not good when you gave up more than the fans thought their player was worth.

A lot of Montreal fans thought they were getting Kyrou for Matheson, Dach, and a 2nd so I wouldn't put a lot of faith in their logic. This trade works for both teams - each traded from a position they had a surplus in.

A lot of them were speculating Dvorsky. Schenn. Because of their center need. I am sure Hughes asked for Dvorsky. They Got a good player but they didn't move the needle on a 2c.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

2 things that I consider ... Dmen take a while but if Mailloux reaches his full potential and becomes top 4 in a year and a 1st pairing dman 3 years from now (pushing an aging 55 down to 2nd or 3rd pair), Bolduc will have to be a superstar to be as valuable. Also, we all should be pretty excited about Stenberg possibly in a year and a year or 2 after that hopefully Carbonneau. There are others who could pop too. Futurecast, we might look back on this as a really good day.

The hard thing that almost all of us are dealing with today is that obviously Bolduc is an exciting young player. I will miss watching him grow into a really good player here.
Today it looks like a huge risk ... sometimes risks payoff. We will see.

My problem is not the player but I think we outbid ourselves.

Right. I see that possibility for sure. But if he ends up being a core top 4 guy here and we have success, it won't be a problem. Trades are not won or lost on the day of the trade especially when the trade involves a pair of 22 year olds.
I would guess that Stenberg was too young for montreal and the Blues weren't trading away snuggerud, holloway or dvorsky.

I kind of disagree with that, trading more than it takes to get a player is bad no matter how he turns out.

I just don't think they get that return from anyone else.

I mean sure though it will be easier to live with if he turns out great but my point is if you trade a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick its a bad trade no matter how the players picked turn out.

I actually think the opposite. If I trade a 1st rounder for Nick Lidstrom (53rd overall), I probably won that trade. I am just kind of giving a crazy example of course. But to me, the whole thing isn't about winning the trade on initial value. We don't know the value that these 2 players actually have yet. The Blues don't make the trade if they don't think he will help the team more than Bolduc moving forward. They might be right. I hope they are. But yes, I am hurting a bit because I saw a ton of value in Bolduc. We will know in a few years is my viewpoint.