July is here BDW/MO/Bloom

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July is here BDW/MO/Bloom

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Your team is in the playoff hunt and could use some help with SP and bat in OF
As you’ve noticed your stadium looks awkwardly empty…..Cleveland had more fans…..
Instead of sitting on your hands this July like many in the past where you’ve done essentially NOTHING to bolster the playoff run
Trade for some difference makers
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:44 am Your team is in the playoff hunt and could use some help with SP and bat in OF
As you’ve noticed your stadium looks awkwardly empty…..Cleveland had more fans…..
Instead of sitting on your hands this July like many in the past where you’ve done essentially NOTHING to bolster the playoff run
Trade for some difference makers
Name nabes...it's easy to say do this but make names.

Who are you trading for and whom are you trading?
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Going to be very interesting to see what they do. Who gets credit if they choose the right path ? who gets the blame if they choose the wrong path ?
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Honky Tonk Man wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:49 am Going to be very interesting to see what they do. Who gets credit if they choose the right path ? who gets the blame if they choose the wrong path ?
Bloom will get any credit, MO and Dewitt will get all the blame
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:44 am Your team is in the playoff hunt and could use some help with SP and bat in OF
As you’ve noticed your stadium looks awkwardly empty…..Cleveland had more fans…..
Instead of sitting on your hands this July like many in the past where you’ve done essentially NOTHING to bolster the playoff run
Trade for some difference makers
I ask though are you wanting a playoff team or a World Series team? Not sure enough moves can be made to achieve the latter. Respect your input.
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Re: July is here BDW/MO/Bloom

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Adam2 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:50 am
Honky Tonk Man wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:49 am Going to be very interesting to see what they do. Who gets credit if they choose the right path ? who gets the blame if they choose the wrong path ?
Bloom will get any credit, MO and Dewitt will get all the blame
Probably right, mo has worn out his welcome, Dewitt has shown a lot of loyalty to mo much to the detriment of the cardinal brand
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Adam2 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:50 am
Honky Tonk Man wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:49 am Going to be very interesting to see what they do. Who gets credit if they choose the right path ? who gets the blame if they choose the wrong path ?
Bloom will get any credit, MO and Dewitt will get all the blame
Yep. Standard fare on CT
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Jatalk wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:51 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:44 am Your team is in the playoff hunt and could use some help with SP and bat in OF
As you’ve noticed your stadium looks awkwardly empty…..Cleveland had more fans…..
Instead of sitting on your hands this July like many in the past where you’ve done essentially NOTHING to bolster the playoff run
Trade for some difference makers
I ask though are you wanting a playoff team or a World Series team? Not sure enough moves can be made to achieve the latter. Respect your input.
Um, making the playoffs gets you a chance at the WS. Please, enlighten us on the WS makeup of a team vs just a playoff team.

FYI, wildcards do pretty well
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:48 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:44 am Your team is in the playoff hunt and could use some help with SP and bat in OF
As you’ve noticed your stadium looks awkwardly empty…..Cleveland had more fans…..
Instead of sitting on your hands this July like many in the past where you’ve done essentially NOTHING to bolster the playoff run
Trade for some difference makers
Name nabes...it's easy to say do this but make names.

Who are you trading for and whom are you trading?
Help me out here Scouty…..am I making these trades?? Am I the one with unlimited ability to know the names and inner workings of my own organization and every other MLB team?? :lol: :lol: I’ll start the research if the checks start flowing this way :D
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Looks like Buyer/Seller could be the mode:

Buyer

-They need to add a RP to the pen', not a big move but a necessary one

-If they could find a RHHing OFer who could actually hit, then you could get a bigger deal (J. Walker dangled?)

Seller

-I'd move mountains and see if some team would take Mikolas (even if BDWJr has to eat some salary) just for his innings eating ability so Oli can slot M. McGreevy into his slot

-I'd move Matz, he's on the downswing and that IL stint could be looming

-Fedde might bring back something of value, I'd move him if they can't find a sucker errrrrrrr GM to take Mikolas again to clear a runway fr McGreevy

Helsley is a tough one.

There's NO CLOSER on this team, trading him would basically be waiving the white flag on a playoff spot.

(And NO you can't simply slot Maton there and think he'd be a great as he's been in the 8th, closing is a different animal)

My bet is they keep Helsley if they're anywhere close to a playoff spot.

Should be an interest Month, stay tuned
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:06 am
Jatalk wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:51 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:44 am Your team is in the playoff hunt and could use some help with SP and bat in OF
As you’ve noticed your stadium looks awkwardly empty…..Cleveland had more fans…..
Instead of sitting on your hands this July like many in the past where you’ve done essentially NOTHING to bolster the playoff run
Trade for some difference makers
I ask though are you wanting a playoff team or a World Series team? Not sure enough moves can be made to achieve the latter. Respect your input.
Um, making the playoffs gets you a chance at the WS. Please, enlighten us on the WS makeup of a team vs just a playoff team.

FYI, wildcards do pretty well
Truth is I don’t know but I would point out cardinals wild card history not great in recent years. I think to be WS competitive starting pitchers could be deeper. Bull pen also especially since I think they are in a forced trade position with Helsley. The outfield from offensive standpoint needs improvement. I have doubts also that Burleson and even Gorman continue to contribute at the current level. Arenado tends to choke in playoff situations. So honestly I don’t know but I could see current team sliding into wild card but getting past Dodgers, Mets, Philly and others hard to see.
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rockondlouie wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:35 am Looks like Buyer/Seller could be the mode:

Buyer

-They need to add a RP to the pen', not a big move but a necessary one

-If they could find a RHHing OFer who could actually hit, then you could get a bigger deal (J. Walker dangled?)

Seller

-I'd move mountains and see if some team would take Mikolas (even if BDWJr has to eat some salary) just for his innings eating ability so Oli can slot M. McGreevy into his slot

-I'd move Matz, he's on the downswing and that IL stint could be looming

-Fedde might bring back something of value, I'd move him if they can't find a sucker errrrrrrr GM to take Mikolas again to clear a runway fr McGreevy

Helsley is a tough one.

There's NO CLOSER on this team, trading him would basically be waiving the white flag on a playoff spot.

(And NO you can't simply slot Maton there and think he'd be a great as he's been in the 8th, closing is a different animal)

My bet is they keep Helsley if they're anywhere close to a playoff spot.

Should be an interest Month, stay tuned
What is left on Miles contract?? Half a year?? If thats an issue the old man should be in a home.
Another reliable SP is required.
Another bat is required.
They need to show some of the old Cardinals “Go for it” as in TRL time to gain back fan trust. This [nonsense] where “getting Walker back is like a trade” is not something fans want to hear.
Had an HVAC repair guy in house last week. The game was on and he says “I haven’t been to a game in years….used to go all the time….tired of BDW/MO. And it’s embarrassing now to see an empty Busch”. All my friends say the same. This ownership needs to produce or it’ll get worse.
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:44 am Your team is in the playoff hunt and could use some help with SP and bat in OF
As you’ve noticed your stadium looks awkwardly empty…..Cleveland had more fans…..
Instead of sitting on your hands this July like many in the past where you’ve done essentially NOTHING to bolster the playoff run
Trade for some difference makers
Cleveland had a lot of Cardinal fans in the stands.
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 09:14 am
rockondlouie wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:35 am Looks like Buyer/Seller could be the mode:

Buyer

-They need to add a RP to the pen', not a big move but a necessary one

-If they could find a RHHing OFer who could actually hit, then you could get a bigger deal (J. Walker dangled?)

Seller

-I'd move mountains and see if some team would take Mikolas (even if BDWJr has to eat some salary) just for his innings eating ability so Oli can slot M. McGreevy into his slot

-I'd move Matz, he's on the downswing and that IL stint could be looming

-Fedde might bring back something of value, I'd move him if they can't find a sucker errrrrrrr GM to take Mikolas again to clear a runway fr McGreevy

Helsley is a tough one.

There's NO CLOSER on this team, trading him would basically be waiving the white flag on a playoff spot.

(And NO you can't simply slot Maton there and think he'd be a great as he's been in the 8th, closing is a different animal)

My bet is they keep Helsley if they're anywhere close to a playoff spot.

Should be an interest Month, stay tuned
What is left on Miles contract?? Half a year?? If thats an issue the old man should be in a home.
Another reliable SP is required.
Another bat is required.
They need to show some of the old Cardinals “Go for it” as in TRL time to gain back fan trust. This [nonsense] where “getting Walker back is like a trade” is not something fans want to hear.
Had an HVAC repair guy in house last week. The game was on and he says “I haven’t been to a game in years….used to go all the time….tired of BDW/MO. And it’s embarrassing now to see an empty Busch”. All my friends say the same. This ownership needs to produce or it’ll get worse.
Well Apr-May-June are gone so July-Aug-Sept or (and this is simply a rough guess) about $8.8M.

I think McG could be that other reliable SP.

A RHHer is a must, but can they find one?

To me Walker is an enigma, his time here running out w/C. Bloom taking over and he has no connection to him since Walker is on Mo's resume.
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Jatalk wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:51 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:44 am Your team is in the playoff hunt and could use some help with SP and bat in OF
As you’ve noticed your stadium looks awkwardly empty…..Cleveland had more fans…..
Instead of sitting on your hands this July like many in the past where you’ve done essentially NOTHING to bolster the playoff run
Trade for some difference makers
I ask though are you wanting a playoff team or a World Series team? Not sure enough moves can be made to achieve the latter. Respect your input.
this is what people said about Arizona a few years ago!
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Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 08:25 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:48 am
Goldfan wrote: 30 Jun 2025 07:44 am Your team is in the playoff hunt and could use some help with SP and bat in OF
As you’ve noticed your stadium looks awkwardly empty…..Cleveland had more fans…..
Instead of sitting on your hands this July like many in the past where you’ve done essentially NOTHING to bolster the playoff run
Trade for some difference makers
Name nabes...it's easy to say do this but make names.

Who are you trading for and whom are you trading?
Help me out here Scouty…..am I making these trades?? Am I the one with unlimited ability to know the names and inner workings of my own organization and every other MLB team?? :lol: :lol: I’ll start the research if the checks start flowing this way :D
Thanks.your just aonkey at the zoo, throwing feces around...
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