NLC race

[ICCFIM2]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

Let me throw a name out there for the OF bat, Brent Rooker of the A's. He is there DH and does not play a great OF. But, he is a proven 30HR guy and is signed for 5/$60M through 2029. His NTV is $47M. If you offered the A's Noot, Walker and 1 of Roby, Hence or Mathews, that probably gets it done. Steep price to paired with Herrera, the Cards would have the MOTOB they need for the next 4.5 seasons along with Herrera. The OF defense would suffer. If they can get Alcantara, which probably cost them one of the other 2 SP prospects plus, they would have the SP and the bats needed to go all the way. They would also have significant player control going forward.

[LewisL]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

I’d love to get Sandy, despite his poor numbers this year. However, what would Cards have to give up to get him? Two of the team’s top 10 prospects, one being a pitcher, and another of the Cards’ top 50 prospects?

I love waiting on the boys…..they have a shot THIS YEAR. Solidify the SP and get an OF who can hit.

Just looked up stats of MB outfielders.......good luck trying to acquire an OF who can hit. Currently in all of MLB, there only 30 OF'rs with an OPS better than .750, of which only 14 higher than .800.

[Bad14]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

Let me throw a name out there for the OF bat, Brent Rooker of the A's. He is there DH and does not play a great OF. But, he is a proven 30HR guy and is signed for 5/$60M through 2029. His NTV is $47M. If you offered the A's Noot, Walker and 1 of Roby, Hence or Mathews, that probably gets it done. Steep price to paired with Herrera, the Cards would have the MOTOB they need for the next 4.5 seasons along with Herrera. The OF defense would suffer. If they can get Alcantara, which probably cost them one of the other 2 SP prospects plus, they would have the SP and the bats needed to go all the way. They would also have significant player control going forward.

I combed through the teams and came up with that name too. Something would have to give. We'd have a lot of DHs.

[Cusecards]

Good day !
A. Cardinals moved into 3rd place for the wildcard !

B. Cards gained a game on these teams in playoff contention: Losing teams were: Mets, Cubs, Brewers, Padres, and Giants

Go Cardinals !

Play Pirates three in their park and they just clobbered the Mets three straight.
Go figure!

Plus did you see the look on Brewers manager Pat Murphsy when Rox 9th hitter in top of 9th 2 outs hits a solo HR to tie the game. Milwaukee went on to lose in 11th. Milwaukee was none too please to lose that finale to the struggling Rockies. .

I missed the game tying HR but watched from the bottom of the ninth on!
Brewers almost lucked out with 3 cheesy IF hits in the 9th and 10th.

[ramfandan]

Brewers about to win it in the 10th against the awful Rockies.
The Brewers are a well run team but man do they get more cheap rinky dink hits!
Scott needs to watch Brice Turang who has great speed also but gets all kinds of cheesy hits by putting it in play.

Bit premature on Brewers about to win it in the 10th .. Remember Yogi 'it ain't over til it's over' .
Nice to see the Rockies hold them off in the 10th and go on to win it in the 11th .
In the top of the 9th, the Brewers were down to the final out .. 2outs and 1 strike on the batter and bingo SOlO HR to tie it by Colorado.
You could see the reaction on Pat Murphy in the dugout .. boy was he ticked . Then to go on to lose it 2nd extra inning was a gut punch for them !
Go Cards !

[Cusecards]

Brewers about to win it in the 10th against the awful Rockies.
The Brewers are a well run team but man do they get more cheap rinky dink hits!
Scott needs to watch Brice Turang who has great speed also but gets all kinds of cheesy hits by putting it in play.

Bit premature on Brewers about to win it in the 10th .. Remember Yogi 'it ain't over til it's over' .
Nice to see the Rockies hold them off in the 10th and go on to win it in the 11th .
In the top of the 9th, the Brewers were down to the final out .. 2outs and 1 strike on the batter and bingo SOlO HR to tie it by Colorado.
You could see the reaction on Pat Murphy in the dugout .. boy was he ticked . Then to go on to lose it 2nd extra inning was a gut punch for them !
Go Cards !

LOL....it certainly was premature!
And I’m VERY GLAD to be wrong!!!!!!

[ICCFIM2]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

Let me throw a name out there for the OF bat, Brent Rooker of the A's. He is there DH and does not play a great OF. But, he is a proven 30HR guy and is signed for 5/$60M through 2029. His NTV is $47M. If you offered the A's Noot, Walker and 1 of Roby, Hence or Mathews, that probably gets it done. Steep price to paired with Herrera, the Cards would have the MOTOB they need for the next 4.5 seasons along with Herrera. The OF defense would suffer. If they can get Alcantara, which probably cost them one of the other 2 SP prospects plus, they would have the SP and the bats needed to go all the way. They would also have significant player control going forward.

I combed through the teams and came up with that name too. Something would have to give. We'd have a lot of DHs.

What would give is the OF defense would be worse...Then you hope over the off season Herrera becomes a good OF...There are not that many bats out there on non-contending teams. In fact, he might be the only one. Given his control years and the low cost of the contract, he makes the most sense, albeit, with the only issue being defense.

[hugeCardfan]

6 games separate the top 4 teams in the NL Central. It is a real race that many thought the Cards would not be a part of. Which team stands in the way the most?

1. The "over-rated" Cubs: Near-elite offense, good defense. Not a stranger to second half collapses, but plenty of talent in the lineup this season. Average bullpen, beat up rotation, and record possibly inflated a little from soft schedule. If not for beat up rotation, probably not a race.

2. The pesky Reds: Lead by a future HOF manager and have a true ace in Abbott and MVP contender in De La Cruz. More of an honorable mention, but hanging in well enough to not be written off.

3. The always under-rated Brewers: Defy expectations yearly all the way to the division title. Can always pitch and seem to always hit just well enough.

With no stellar numbers to really support their case, I say the Brewers. They stole the pixie dust, and seem to figure it out someway, somehow, even when the numbers don't support.

I'll go out on a limb and predict an inexplicable and epic Cubs second-half collapse, and not so much out on a limb to say the Reds are a non-factor.

The Cardinals are enigmatic. No real star power but often gets star performances from different guys on different days. Tough defense and no-quit offense. Against RHP anyway. Some young guys too inexperienced or below average combined with some vets in decline or underperforming.

A trade deadline upgrade could make them a strong front-runner. Team is winning but too much overcompensation for dead weight guys bringing them down. An All-Star level right-handed OFer and another Sonny Gray type starter and a reliable BP arm and this team would roll.

Nice write. Let’s look at objective.

Play the young, see who can play. Wanted to move Goldie- Gone. Mik and Matz- expiring contracts- 30M. Still will move Mik and Matz.

They need to add in OFF-SEASON a bat. Then an arm. But….Right now Sandy type arm is available. I’d try for something like that. Then a bat in off season.

Then contend.

Really like the Alcantara suggestion. Someone is going to make that underrated move and I think it will pay off nicely.

But why stop ever so close to winning now? If there is an above average RH OFer to be had, he and SA could be truly transformative during the current race.

True. But that was not the plan. The plan was to expect heartache in the reset. We did just the opposite, kids flourishing, team winning, so everyone wants to take next big step. Too early.

A Sandy type works, makes this an elite young staff. The bat is an off season move, but it too would be considered if it presents itself. Timing is everything.

Agree on timing, on pretty much everything in life. As far as "not the plan"...the plan was put out there as a PR move in case they sucked. Mo didn't know what he had. Not too late to revise, I hope.

PR my a.s.s. Fans were up in arms mad at the DeWitts. Some of the roster didn't make sense if you were looking at a reset.

This is about more than Mo. I think it was a joint decision with Chaim heavily involved. Moreover, I'm not buying the Cards didn't know what they had. This really didn't set up as a reset. We kept Sonny, Fedde, Helsley, Arenado, Contreras and even signed Maton.

CT was all over the decision-making of the FO, and yet, here we are smack dab in the middle of it.... Yeah, we needed some players to gel.... Why are we shocked that they have?

[Bad14]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

Let me throw a name out there for the OF bat, Brent Rooker of the A's. He is there DH and does not play a great OF. But, he is a proven 30HR guy and is signed for 5/$60M through 2029. His NTV is $47M. If you offered the A's Noot, Walker and 1 of Roby, Hence or Mathews, that probably gets it done. Steep price to paired with Herrera, the Cards would have the MOTOB they need for the next 4.5 seasons along with Herrera. The OF defense would suffer. If they can get Alcantara, which probably cost them one of the other 2 SP prospects plus, they would have the SP and the bats needed to go all the way. They would also have significant player control going forward.

I combed through the teams and came up with that name too. Something would have to give. We'd have a lot of DHs.

What would give is the OF defense would be worse...Then you hope over the off season Herrera becomes a good OF...There are not that many bats out there on non-contending teams. In fact, he might be the only one. Given his control years and the low cost of the contract, he makes the most sense, albeit, with the only issue being defense.

That's a big issue but if they think Herrera can be an average outfielder then it makes sense. That contract is nothing compared to others.

[CorneliusWolfe]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

I’d love to get Sandy, despite his poor numbers this year. However, what would Cards have to give up to get him? Two of the team’s top 10 prospects, one being a pitcher, and another of the Cards’ top 50 prospects?

I love waiting on the boys…..they have a shot THIS YEAR. Solidify the SP and get an OF who can hit.

Just looked up stats of MB outfielders.......good luck trying to acquire an OF who can hit. Currently in all of MLB, there only 30 OF'rs with an OPS better than .750, of which only 14 higher than .800.

Thanks for sharing…admittedly a little disheartening. Maybe there’s not a star OFer to be had, but someone putting up 800-ish OPS vs lefties with a good glove and double down on the pen?

I don’t envy GM’s jobs and can’t begin to say what exact moves they should make, especially not being privy to all the information they have available to them that we as fans don’t.

I’m thinking Mo’s last year he won’t completely sit on his hands and he’ll at least try to get creative in filling some holes.

[scoutyjones2]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

Let me throw a name out there for the OF bat, Brent Rooker of the A's. He is there DH and does not play a great OF. But, he is a proven 30HR guy and is signed for 5/$60M through 2029. His NTV is $47M. If you offered the A's Noot, Walker and 1 of Roby, Hence or Mathews, that probably gets it done. Steep price to paired with Herrera, the Cards would have the MOTOB they need for the next 4.5 seasons along with Herrera. The OF defense would suffer. If they can get Alcantara, which probably cost them one of the other 2 SP prospects plus, they would have the SP and the bats needed to go all the way. They would also have significant player control going forward.

I combed through the teams and came up with that name too. Something would have to give. We'd have a lot of DHs.

What would give is the OF defense would be worse...Then you hope over the off season Herrera becomes a good OF...There are not that many bats out there on non-contending teams. In fact, he might be the only one. Given his control years and the low cost of the contract, he makes the most sense, albeit, with the only issue being defense.

Can he stay healthy

[scoutyjones2]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

I’d love to get Sandy, despite his poor numbers this year. However, what would Cards have to give up to get him? Two of the team’s top 10 prospects, one being a pitcher, and another of the Cards’ top 50 prospects?

I love waiting on the boys…..they have a shot THIS YEAR. Solidify the SP and get an OF who can hit.

Just looked up stats of MB outfielders.......good luck trying to acquire an OF who can hit. Currently in all of MLB, there only 30 OF'rs with an OPS better than .750, of which only 14 higher than .800.

Thanks for sharing…admittedly a little disheartening. Maybe there’s not a star OFer to be had, but someone putting up 800-ish OPS vs righties with a good glove and double down on the pen?

I don’t envy GM’s jobs and can’t begin to say what exact moves they should make, especially not being privy to all the information they have available to them that we as fans don’t.

I’m thinking Mo’s last year he won’t completely sit on his hands and he’ll at least try to get creative in filling some holes.

Need a RH bat fo the OF. Plenty of LH options that hit tightoes

[CorneliusWolfe]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

I’d love to get Sandy, despite his poor numbers this year. However, what would Cards have to give up to get him? Two of the team’s top 10 prospects, one being a pitcher, and another of the Cards’ top 50 prospects?

I love waiting on the boys…..they have a shot THIS YEAR. Solidify the SP and get an OF who can hit.

Just looked up stats of MB outfielders.......good luck trying to acquire an OF who can hit. Currently in all of MLB, there only 30 OF'rs with an OPS better than .750, of which only 14 higher than .800.

Thanks for sharing…admittedly a little disheartening. Maybe there’s not a star OFer to be had, but someone putting up 800-ish OPS vs righties with a good glove and double down on the pen?

I don’t envy GM’s jobs and can’t begin to say what exact moves they should make, especially not being privy to all the information they have available to them that we as fans don’t.

I’m thinking Mo’s last year he won’t completely sit on his hands and he’ll at least try to get creative in filling some holes.

Need a RH bat fo the OF. Plenty of LH options that hit tightoes

I messed it up. I meant RH that hits lefties, like you said.

[scoutyjones2]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

I’d love to get Sandy, despite his poor numbers this year. However, what would Cards have to give up to get him? Two of the team’s top 10 prospects, one being a pitcher, and another of the Cards’ top 50 prospects?

I love waiting on the boys…..they have a shot THIS YEAR. Solidify the SP and get an OF who can hit.

Just looked up stats of MB outfielders.......good luck trying to acquire an OF who can hit. Currently in all of MLB, there only 30 OF'rs with an OPS better than .750, of which only 14 higher than .800.

Thanks for sharing…admittedly a little disheartening. Maybe there’s not a star OFer to be had, but someone putting up 800-ish OPS vs righties with a good glove and double down on the pen?

I don’t envy GM’s jobs and can’t begin to say what exact moves they should make, especially not being privy to all the information they have available to them that we as fans don’t.

I’m thinking Mo’s last year he won’t completely sit on his hands and he’ll at least try to get creative in filling some holes.

Need a RH bat fo the OF. Plenty of LH options that hit tightoes

I messed it up. I meant RH that hits lefties, like you said.

I'm throwing it out there...Byron Buxton. Owed 3 more years at a little over $15/yr. Aged 31

[CorneliusWolfe]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

I’d love to get Sandy, despite his poor numbers this year. However, what would Cards have to give up to get him? Two of the team’s top 10 prospects, one being a pitcher, and another of the Cards’ top 50 prospects?

I love waiting on the boys…..they have a shot THIS YEAR. Solidify the SP and get an OF who can hit.

Just looked up stats of MB outfielders.......good luck trying to acquire an OF who can hit. Currently in all of MLB, there only 30 OF'rs with an OPS better than .750, of which only 14 higher than .800.

Thanks for sharing…admittedly a little disheartening. Maybe there’s not a star OFer to be had, but someone putting up 800-ish OPS vs righties with a good glove and double down on the pen?

I don’t envy GM’s jobs and can’t begin to say what exact moves they should make, especially not being privy to all the information they have available to them that we as fans don’t.

I’m thinking Mo’s last year he won’t completely sit on his hands and he’ll at least try to get creative in filling some holes.

Need a RH bat fo the OF. Plenty of LH options that hit tightoes

I messed it up. I meant RH that hits lefties, like you said.

I'm throwing it out there...Byron Buxton. Owed 3 more years at a little over $15/yr. Aged 31

He’d be perfect. Now I’ll have to pull for the Twins to completely collapse and force a sell off. They are underachieving.

[AnExParrot]

MO,go get Sandy and an OF bat
You wont get another chance

I’d love to get Sandy, despite his poor numbers this year. However, what would Cards have to give up to get him? Two of the team’s top 10 prospects, one being a pitcher, and another of the Cards’ top 50 prospects?

I love waiting on the boys…..they have a shot THIS YEAR. Solidify the SP and get an OF who can hit.

Just looked up stats of MB outfielders.......good luck trying to acquire an OF who can hit. Currently in all of MLB, there only 30 OF'rs with an OPS better than .750, of which only 14 higher than .800.

Thanks for sharing…admittedly a little disheartening. Maybe there’s not a star OFer to be had, but someone putting up 800-ish OPS vs righties with a good glove and double down on the pen?

I don’t envy GM’s jobs and can’t begin to say what exact moves they should make, especially not being privy to all the information they have available to them that we as fans don’t.

I’m thinking Mo’s last year he won’t completely sit on his hands and he’ll at least try to get creative in filling some holes.

Need a RH bat fo the OF. Plenty of LH options that hit tightoes

I messed it up. I meant RH that hits lefties, like you said.

I'm throwing it out there...Byron Buxton. Owed 3 more years at a little over $15/yr. Aged 31

Buxton has spent more time on the IL than ToN - 140 games one time and only one other season with 100+(102) games. Hell, the guy only managed 39 games in the shortened 2020 season.