Cards pull to within 2 1/2 games of the Cubs.

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Cards pull to within 2 1/2 games of the Cubs.

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They are making the buy/sell decision rather difficult. If within five at the deadline. I look for Mo to stand pat.
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clear. to be as ... mud or somethin'
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Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:04 pm They are making the buy/sell decision rather difficult.
I hope they trade Roby, Sagesse and Burlseon for a stud RFer. Could you survive such a turn of events?
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No $1 tacos tomorrow. Shucks.
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Re: Cards pull to within 2 1/2 games of the Cubs.

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:08 pm
Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:04 pm They are making the buy/sell decision rather difficult.
I hope they trade Roby, Sagesse and Burlseon for a stud RFer. Could you survive such a turn of events?
You seem more obsessed with my posting than I am with Burleson, Saggese and Roby as players. By the way, Saggese has slid a little on my promotional efforts right mow.
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Re: Cards pull to within 2 1/2 games of the Cubs.

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Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:11 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:08 pm
Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:04 pm They are making the buy/sell decision rather difficult.
I hope they trade Roby, Sagesse and Burlseon for a stud RFer. Could you survive such a turn of events?
You seem more obsessed with my posting than I am with Burleson, Saggese and Roby as players. By the way, Saggese has slid a little on my promotional efforts right mow.
Aww c’mon, don’t jump off the bandwagon now! Stand by your man, like Tammy Wynette!

I actually like Sagesse too. Don’t really care much about tracking prospects. Too much hype and too many busts to get my hopes up for. Then out of nowhere you get a Donovan or Pujols. So I just wait till they hit the bigs and see what they can do. Not enough time in the day.
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Re: Cards pull to within 2 1/2 games of the Cubs.

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It is a "buy" / "stand pat" / "sell" decision.

They won't sell if they are still in the race.

The reason to buy would be to fix some of the weakest links or add a crazy strong link.

IMHO, the pitching staff is the weakest link. Maybe add a reliever or two to upgrade King and/or O'Brien?

3.36 2.96 Gray
3.70 3.05 Liberatore
4.76 3.96 Mikolas
4.11 4.49 Fedde
4.43 4.53 Pallante
4.22 3.37 McGreevy - depth / insurance

1.69 2.09 Maton
3.38 2.65 Matz (LH)
2.82 3.81 Leahy
3.41 3.88 Helsley
2.81 3.91 Romero (LH)
4.50 4.26 King
3.24 3.75 Svanson
2.25 4.59 O'Brien
1.35 2.94 Granillo - depth / insurance
6.62 2.81 Graceffo - depth / insurance
6.92 3.78 Roycroft - depth / insurance

Or they could go big and trade Walker and valuables to add a starting pitcher to replace Mikolas.
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Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:04 pm They are making the buy/sell decision rather difficult. If within five at the deadline. I look for Mo to stand pat.
'Standing pat' risks falling behind our division rivals. . Everybody and their uncle know the Brewers will make a big move ( word is acquiring a starting pitcher ) and Cubs aren't going to sit idle either .
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cardstatman wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:23 pm It is a "buy" / "stand pat" / "sell" decision.

They won't sell if they are still in the race.

The reason to buy would be to fix some of the weakest links or add a crazy strong link.

IMHO, the pitching staff is the weakest link. Maybe add a reliever or two to upgrade King and/or O'Brien?

3.36 2.96 Gray
3.70 3.05 Liberatore
4.76 3.96 Mikolas
4.11 4.49 Fedde
4.43 4.53 Pallante
4.22 3.37 McGreevy - depth / insurance

1.69 2.09 Maton
3.38 2.65 Matz (LH)
2.82 3.81 Leahy
3.41 3.88 Helsley
2.81 3.91 Romero (LH)
4.50 4.26 King
3.24 3.75 Svanson
2.25 4.59 O'Brien
1.35 2.94 Granillo - depth / insurance
6.62 2.81 Graceffo - depth / insurance
6.92 3.78 Roycroft - depth / insurance

Or they could go big and trade Walker and valuables to add a starting pitcher to replace Mikolas.
Trading Walker would probably be rock bottom return. Maybe better to stash him in AAA and hope he has a sustained run of dominance. Then decide if it’s real or flip him as fool’s gold.
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immediate improvement: DFA Mikolas and give his starter spot to McGreevy
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cardstatman wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:23 pm It is a "buy" / "stand pat" / "sell" decision.

They won't sell if they are still in the race.

The reason to buy would be to fix some of the weakest links or add a crazy strong link.

IMHO, the pitching staff is the weakest link. Maybe add a reliever or two to upgrade King and/or O'Brien?

3.36 2.96 Gray
3.70 3.05 Liberatore
4.76 3.96 Mikolas
4.11 4.49 Fedde
4.43 4.53 Pallante
4.22 3.37 McGreevy - depth / insurance

1.69 2.09 Maton
3.38 2.65 Matz (LH)
2.82 3.81 Leahy
3.41 3.88 Helsley
2.81 3.91 Romero (LH)
4.50 4.26 King
3.24 3.75 Svanson
2.25 4.59 O'Brien
1.35 2.94 Granillo - depth / insurance
6.62 2.81 Graceffo - depth / insurance
6.92 3.78 Roycroft - depth / insurance

Or they could go big and trade Walker and valuables to add a starting pitcher to replace Mikolas.
Mile
Fedde
Pallente
Provide nothing except every 4-5 starts they get lucky giving up a couple runs and the hopium continues. Upgrade the starting staff!!
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Re: Cards pull to within 2 1/2 games of the Cubs.

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:21 pm
Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:11 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:08 pm
Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:04 pm They are making the buy/sell decision rather difficult.
I hope they trade Roby, Sagesse and Burlseon for a stud RFer. Could you survive such a turn of events?
You seem more obsessed with my posting than I am with Burleson, Saggese and Roby as players. By the way, Saggese has slid a little on my promotional efforts right mow.
Aww c’mon, don’t jump off the bandwagon now! Stand by your man, like Tammy Wynette!

I actually like Sagesse too. Don’t really care much about tracking prospects. Too much hype and too many busts to get my hopes up for. Then out of nowhere you get a Donovan or Pujols. So I just wait till they hit the bigs and see what they can do. Not enough time in the day.
Corn, do you consider Burleson "out of nowhere"? And, Saggese will be fine. I'm just a little disappointed in how tentative he's seemed at the plate since he's returned.
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Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:11 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:08 pm
Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:04 pm They are making the buy/sell decision rather difficult.
I hope they trade Roby, Sagesse and Burlseon for a stud RFer. Could you survive such a turn of events?
You seem more obsessed with my posting than I am with Burleson, Saggese and Roby as players. By the way, Saggese has slid a little on my promotional efforts right mow.
Why?
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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:08 pm
Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:04 pm They are making the buy/sell decision rather difficult.
I hope they trade Roby, Sagesse and Burlseon for a stud RFer. Could you survive such a turn of events?
I don't know why you would trade Burleson he's one of the best hitters on the team and he's improving on defense.
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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:08 pm
Shady wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:04 pm They are making the buy/sell decision rather difficult.
I hope they trade Roby, Sagesse and Burlseon for a stud RFer. Could you survive such a turn of events?
How'd they get Roby and Saggese?
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cardstatman wrote: 29 Jun 2025 17:23 pm It is a "buy" / "stand pat" / "sell" decision.

They won't sell if they are still in the race.

The reason to buy would be to fix some of the weakest links or add a crazy strong link.

IMHO, the pitching staff is the weakest link. Maybe add a reliever or two to upgrade King and/or O'Brien?

3.36 2.96 Gray
3.70 3.05 Liberatore
4.76 3.96 Mikolas
4.11 4.49 Fedde
4.43 4.53 Pallante
4.22 3.37 McGreevy - depth / insurance

1.69 2.09 Maton
3.38 2.65 Matz (LH)
2.82 3.81 Leahy
3.41 3.88 Helsley
2.81 3.91 Romero (LH)
4.50 4.26 King
3.24 3.75 Svanson
2.25 4.59 O'Brien
1.35 2.94 Granillo - depth / insurance
6.62 2.81 Graceffo - depth / insurance
6.92 3.78 Roycroft - depth / insurance

Or they could go big and trade Walker and valuables to add a starting pitcher to replace Mikolas.
One current hitter with an 800 OPS on the entire team, and it's 804.

Nobody should be untouchable to trade
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