The Cardinals with Kyle Tucker.

[Cranny]

I like the Tucker possibility, I'm saying that up front.

That being said, I don't see any big, out-of-house signings before the huge labor obstacle is solved in 2027. I never expect the big signings in a normal setting, that's not our makeup.

We could do an inhouse signing or two this offseason, but that's about it.

Bet your butt that some billionaire will sign him. Just not the penny pinching DeWitt. Another star going to a high payroll team, probably with deferred money.

CCard - Guess that makes 2/3 of the owners of ML teams "penny pinchers". Right?

Just watch the playoffs and you'll see who spends money. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

So, you would like to spend like the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc.?

You know who else cries poor all the time? The Pirates, Reds, Marlins, etc etc. What do these teams have in common? They don't pony up on the payroll. No one is saying to spend $350 million like the Dodgers, but come on, cutting payroll when you're already way below the luxury tax threshold? This has been beaten to death already. They're being cheap. And cheap in the MLB gets you jack cht.

They're actually giving some talented young players a chance to succeed. Pretty exciting to see, and working fairly well so far. You should watch the interview with Cerfolio that was posted on here. It was revealing.

I love young players succeeding. But those young players eventually have to be paid. Here's where you have perennial losers show up. They can't keep the stars they grow, pardon me, they WON'T keep the players they grow. That being said, where you become an elite team is plugging in a superstar here or there. It only takes a couple to lift a team to championship status. The best way is to sign a top tier pitcher or two if you can get lucky and sign them.

The Cards like to first see how a player fits in with teammates, manager, coaches, the front office, fans, the St. Louis Community, etc. Look to the Matt Holliday model. That’s the key. Bloom and Cerfolio feel the same way.

I don't care if they live in the community or screw the neighbor's dog. I only care about the Cards winning. Nothing else matters. I don't watch the games because they're good neighbor's or fabulous people. That's just a silly way to load up a ballclub. Get the best players you can and win championships. I don't personally know any ball players. Do you? If they do something bad enough, you know, like take steroids or beat their wife, then ship their butts out and replace them. Otherwise, stay out of their personal lives and let them produce for the team.

As a matter of fact I do know some players. And they all talk about how important team chemistry is. Suggestion for you -
listen to the entirety of the Cerfolio interview that was post on here. Then come back and we can discuss how important character is when building a team that can win together.

[desertrat23]

I like the Tucker possibility, I'm saying that up front.

That being said, I don't see any big, out-of-house signings before the huge labor obstacle is solved in 2027. I never expect the big signings in a normal setting, that's not our makeup.

We could do an inhouse signing or two this offseason, but that's about it.

Bet your butt that some billionaire will sign him. Just not the penny pinching DeWitt. Another star going to a high payroll team, probably with deferred money.

CCard - Guess that makes 2/3 of the owners of ML teams "penny pinchers". Right?

Just watch the playoffs and you'll see who spends money. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

So, you would like to spend like the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc.?

You know who else cries poor all the time? The Pirates, Reds, Marlins, etc etc. What do these teams have in common? They don't pony up on the payroll. No one is saying to spend $350 million like the Dodgers, but come on, cutting payroll when you're already way below the luxury tax threshold? This has been beaten to death already. They're being cheap. And cheap in the MLB gets you jack cht.

They're actually giving some talented young players a chance to succeed. Pretty exciting to see, and working fairly well so far. You should watch the interview with Cerfolio that was posted on here. It was revealing.

I love young players succeeding. But those young players eventually have to be paid. Here's where you have perennial losers show up. They can't keep the stars they grow, pardon me, they WON'T keep the players they grow. That being said, where you become an elite team is plugging in a superstar here or there. It only takes a couple to lift a team to championship status. The best way is to sign a top tier pitcher or two if you can get lucky and sign them.

The Cards like to first see how a player fits in with teammates, manager, coaches, the front office, fans, the St. Louis Community, etc. Look to the Matt Holliday model. That’s the key. Bloom and Cerfolio feel the same way.

I don't care if they live in the community or screw the neighbor's dog. I only care about the Cards winning. Nothing else matters. I don't watch the games because they're good neighbor's or fabulous people. That's just a silly way to load up a ballclub. Get the best players you can and win championships. I don't personally know any ball players. Do you? If they do something bad enough, you know, like take steroids or beat their wife, then ship their butts out and replace them. Otherwise, stay out of their personal lives and let them produce for the team.

As a matter of fact I do know some players. And they all talk about how important team chemistry is. Suggestion for you -
listen to the entirety of the Cerfolio interview that was post on here. Then come back and we can discuss how important character is when building a team that can win together.

God, so patronizing.

Yes, character is important. You know what’s more important? The most talented baseball players you can find. And sometimes you have to pay top dollar for them, but this owner refuses to do so.

[mattmitchl44]

Depends on how close you think the Cardinals actually are to competing and how much Tucker is going to get.

If Tucker gets, say, 10 yrs./$300 million, you should be expecting to be in "win now" mode over about the first five years of that contract moreso than waiting until the last five.

There are positive signs in the productivity of the Cardinals young players, but I don't know if this offseason or the offseason after the 2026 season is the time to start adding pieces again.

The last projection I saw was 12 years for 525

Tucker is not coming to Stl.

For a guy who, at his best, has been about a 5 fWAR player, that would be pretty crazy.

[Bad14]

I like the Tucker possibility, I'm saying that up front.

That being said, I don't see any big, out-of-house signings before the huge labor obstacle is solved in 2027. I never expect the big signings in a normal setting, that's not our makeup.

We could do an inhouse signing or two this offseason, but that's about it.

Bet your butt that some billionaire will sign him. Just not the penny pinching DeWitt. Another star going to a high payroll team, probably with deferred money.

CCard - Guess that makes 2/3 of the owners of ML teams "penny pinchers". Right?

Just watch the playoffs and you'll see who spends money. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

So, you would like to spend like the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc.?

You know who else cries poor all the time? The Pirates, Reds, Marlins, etc etc. What do these teams have in common? They don't pony up on the payroll. No one is saying to spend $350 million like the Dodgers, but come on, cutting payroll when you're already way below the luxury tax threshold? This has been beaten to death already. They're being cheap. And cheap in the MLB gets you jack cht.

They're actually giving some talented young players a chance to succeed. Pretty exciting to see, and working fairly well so far. You should watch the interview with Cerfolio that was posted on here. It was revealing.

I love young players succeeding. But those young players eventually have to be paid. Here's where you have perennial losers show up. They can't keep the stars they grow, pardon me, they WON'T keep the players they grow. That being said, where you become an elite team is plugging in a superstar here or there. It only takes a couple to lift a team to championship status. The best way is to sign a top tier pitcher or two if you can get lucky and sign them.

The Cards like to first see how a player fits in with teammates, manager, coaches, the front office, fans, the St. Louis Community, etc. Look to the Matt Holliday model. That’s the key. Bloom and Cerfolio feel the same way.

I don't care if they live in the community or screw the neighbor's dog. I only care about the Cards winning. Nothing else matters. I don't watch the games because they're good neighbor's or fabulous people. That's just a silly way to load up a ballclub. Get the best players you can and win championships. I don't personally know any ball players. Do you? If they do something bad enough, you know, like take steroids or beat their wife, then ship their butts out and replace them. Otherwise, stay out of their personal lives and let them produce for the team.

As a matter of fact I do know some players. And they all talk about how important team chemistry is. Suggestion for you -
listen to the entirety of the Cerfolio interview that was post on here. Then come back and we can discuss how important character is when building a team that can win together.

Do they walk out from cornfields to talk to you?

[Cranny]

I like the Tucker possibility, I'm saying that up front.

That being said, I don't see any big, out-of-house signings before the huge labor obstacle is solved in 2027. I never expect the big signings in a normal setting, that's not our makeup.

We could do an inhouse signing or two this offseason, but that's about it.

Bet your butt that some billionaire will sign him. Just not the penny pinching DeWitt. Another star going to a high payroll team, probably with deferred money.

CCard - Guess that makes 2/3 of the owners of ML teams "penny pinchers". Right?

Just watch the playoffs and you'll see who spends money. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

So, you would like to spend like the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc.?

You know who else cries poor all the time? The Pirates, Reds, Marlins, etc etc. What do these teams have in common? They don't pony up on the payroll. No one is saying to spend $350 million like the Dodgers, but come on, cutting payroll when you're already way below the luxury tax threshold? This has been beaten to death already. They're being cheap. And cheap in the MLB gets you jack cht.

They're actually giving some talented young players a chance to succeed. Pretty exciting to see, and working fairly well so far. You should watch the interview with Cerfolio that was posted on here. It was revealing.

I love young players succeeding. But those young players eventually have to be paid. Here's where you have perennial losers show up. They can't keep the stars they grow, pardon me, they WON'T keep the players they grow. That being said, where you become an elite team is plugging in a superstar here or there. It only takes a couple to lift a team to championship status. The best way is to sign a top tier pitcher or two if you can get lucky and sign them.

The Cards like to first see how a player fits in with teammates, manager, coaches, the front office, fans, the St. Louis Community, etc. Look to the Matt Holliday model. That’s the key. Bloom and Cerfolio feel the same way.

I don't care if they live in the community or screw the neighbor's dog. I only care about the Cards winning. Nothing else matters. I don't watch the games because they're good neighbor's or fabulous people. That's just a silly way to load up a ballclub. Get the best players you can and win championships. I don't personally know any ball players. Do you? If they do something bad enough, you know, like take steroids or beat their wife, then ship their butts out and replace them. Otherwise, stay out of their personal lives and let them produce for the team.

As a matter of fact I do know some players. And they all talk about how important team chemistry is. Suggestion for you -
listen to the entirety of the Cerfolio interview that was post on here. Then come back and we can discuss how important character is when building a team that can win together.

Do they walk out from cornfields to talk to you?

Watch the Cerfolio interview and learn.

[Bad14]

Bet your butt that some billionaire will sign him. Just not the penny pinching DeWitt. Another star going to a high payroll team, probably with deferred money.

CCard - Guess that makes 2/3 of the owners of ML teams "penny pinchers". Right?

Just watch the playoffs and you'll see who spends money. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

So, you would like to spend like the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc.?

You know who else cries poor all the time? The Pirates, Reds, Marlins, etc etc. What do these teams have in common? They don't pony up on the payroll. No one is saying to spend $350 million like the Dodgers, but come on, cutting payroll when you're already way below the luxury tax threshold? This has been beaten to death already. They're being cheap. And cheap in the MLB gets you jack cht.

They're actually giving some talented young players a chance to succeed. Pretty exciting to see, and working fairly well so far. You should watch the interview with Cerfolio that was posted on here. It was revealing.

I love young players succeeding. But those young players eventually have to be paid. Here's where you have perennial losers show up. They can't keep the stars they grow, pardon me, they WON'T keep the players they grow. That being said, where you become an elite team is plugging in a superstar here or there. It only takes a couple to lift a team to championship status. The best way is to sign a top tier pitcher or two if you can get lucky and sign them.

The Cards like to first see how a player fits in with teammates, manager, coaches, the front office, fans, the St. Louis Community, etc. Look to the Matt Holliday model. That’s the key. Bloom and Cerfolio feel the same way.

I don't care if they live in the community or screw the neighbor's dog. I only care about the Cards winning. Nothing else matters. I don't watch the games because they're good neighbor's or fabulous people. That's just a silly way to load up a ballclub. Get the best players you can and win championships. I don't personally know any ball players. Do you? If they do something bad enough, you know, like take steroids or beat their wife, then ship their butts out and replace them. Otherwise, stay out of their personal lives and let them produce for the team.

As a matter of fact I do know some players. And they all talk about how important team chemistry is. Suggestion for you -
listen to the entirety of the Cerfolio interview that was post on here. Then come back and we can discuss how important character is when building a team that can win together.

Do they walk out from cornfields to talk to you?

Watch the Cerfolio interview and learn.

I did. And he didn't say all of what you're saying. You're living in the distant past. No team wants a clubhouse cancer. Just look at Devers. But teams aren't looking for community leaders either. They're looking for star players who can win, sell merchandise, and put butts in seats. And teams don't need to do a test drive on a player. Teams had plenty of data of a player's character before they bring him in.