Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Join the discussion about the Blues.

[Complete Blues coverage on STLtoday.com]

Moderators: STLtoday Forum Moderators, Blues Talk Moderators

Harry S Deals
Forum User
Posts: 1643
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:25 pm

Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by Harry S Deals »

Per Chris Johnson.... perhaps Dobson wants to stay in the East? If he wont sign an extension then the deal is worthless. I am a bit more comfortable with the proposed other deals, Buf and or NJ.
TheJackBurton
Forum User
Posts: 2361
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:43 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by TheJackBurton »

ehhh I'm not trading for Byrum.

We are loaded on the left side both in the NHL and prospect ranks.

I'm guessing Faulk is our #4 again.
Harry S Deals
Forum User
Posts: 1643
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:25 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by Harry S Deals »

TheJackBurton wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:02 am ehhh I'm not trading for Byrum.

We are loaded on the left side both in the NHL and prospect ranks.

I'm guessing Faulk is our #4 again.
A full year of Fowler under Monty and Broberg will take another step forward, it will be exciting to see what Tucker can do. I doubt Army is done though something will happen he seems aggressive this week
TheJackBurton
Forum User
Posts: 2361
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:43 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by TheJackBurton »

Harry S Deals wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:04 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:02 am ehhh I'm not trading for Byrum.

We are loaded on the left side both in the NHL and prospect ranks.

I'm guessing Faulk is our #4 again.
A full year of Fowler under Monty and Broberg will take another step forward, it will be exciting to see what Tucker can do. I doubt Army is done though something will happen he seems aggressive this week
I agree with that. It's obvious he is going to exhaust every avenue to try to improve.
skilles
Forum User
Posts: 1401
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:28 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by skilles »

I certainly wouldn't count on Fowler being better, he is a good player and will probably be a good player but I think he likely experienced a change of scenery bump last year and likely won't be quite as ridiculously good.

I also wouldn't buy to much into any of the rumors right now with all the negotiating and gamesmanship that is likely taking place.
Backesdraft
Forum User
Posts: 502
Joined: 15 Mar 2019 07:23 am

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by Backesdraft »

I haven’t seen Dobson play enough to really weigh in. But if the ask really was going to be $10m +…phew boy that’s a hefty number. Long term, it could be better he didn’t end up here.
bud white
Forum User
Posts: 1994
Joined: 26 Oct 2018 21:25 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by bud white »

skilles wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:15 am I certainly wouldn't count on Fowler being better, he is a good player and will probably be a good player but I think he likely experienced a change of scenery bump last year and likely won't be quite as ridiculously good.

I also wouldn't buy to much into any of the rumors right now with all the negotiating and gamesmanship that is likely taking place.
Fowler has terrific offensive skills, sense and awareness. His success is contingent on his D partner and the overall awareness of the forward on his team who must be aware that he is jumping into the play, so that forward needs to drop into a defensive posture. Many of the Blues forwards have that awareness. 1 or 2 don't.

Same can be said of Parayko and Faulk, actually.

As for Dobson ... I want the Blues to close on this just so that I can post a Jurassic Park gif ... "Dobson! We have Dobson!"
Harry S Deals
Forum User
Posts: 1643
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:25 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by Harry S Deals »

bud white wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:31 am
skilles wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:15 am I certainly wouldn't count on Fowler being better, he is a good player and will probably be a good player but I think he likely experienced a change of scenery bump last year and likely won't be quite as ridiculously good.

I also wouldn't buy to much into any of the rumors right now with all the negotiating and gamesmanship that is likely taking place.
Fowler has terrific offensive skills, sense and awareness. His success is contingent on his D partner and the overall awareness of the forward on his team who must be aware that he is jumping into the play, so that forward needs to drop into a defensive posture. Many of the Blues forwards have that awareness. 1 or 2 don't.

Same can be said of Parayko and Faulk, actually.

As for Dobson ... I want the Blues to close on this just so that I can post a Jurassic Park gif ... "Dobson! We have Dobson!"
Cam Fowlers success was no fluke, he just had a 48 pt season in Ana on a (bleep) team, hes an exceptional defenseman finally on a really good squad. You can bank on Fowler to again be in that 40-50 pt area providing he can play 70+ games which hes done three of the last four years. He actually averaged two fewer minutes per game in STL which is probably beneficial to him at this point in his career. Im hoping to see Fowler as the #1 PP QB with Broberg actually 2nd
LuvthaBlues
Forum User
Posts: 291
Joined: 06 Oct 2018 19:46 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by LuvthaBlues »

Is this when we start hearing about Army's failure to pull off a trade?
Nublues69
Forum User
Posts: 483
Joined: 27 May 2024 23:05 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by Nublues69 »

Lebrun just announced its down to jackets habs and us. Likely include a first 1nd pick and will be finiahed tonight
thegibby.
Forum User
Posts: 1311
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:03 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by thegibby. »

Nublues69 wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:46 am Lebrun just announced its down to jackets habs and us. Likely include a first 1nd pick and will be finiahed tonight
I'm also hearing Montreal wants to stick to their current plan and are not interested in paying the cost of a Dobson.
Nublues69
Forum User
Posts: 483
Joined: 27 May 2024 23:05 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by Nublues69 »

thegibby. wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:52 am
Nublues69 wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:46 am Lebrun just announced its down to jackets habs and us. Likely include a first 1nd pick and will be finiahed tonight
I'm also hearing Montreal wants to stick to their current plan and are not interested in paying the cost of a Dobson.
If its taking a first then what could the package be. Or is army playing chicken like he did with orielly
skilles
Forum User
Posts: 1401
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:28 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by skilles »

Harry S Deals wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:38 am
bud white wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:31 am
skilles wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:15 am I certainly wouldn't count on Fowler being better, he is a good player and will probably be a good player but I think he likely experienced a change of scenery bump last year and likely won't be quite as ridiculously good.

I also wouldn't buy to much into any of the rumors right now with all the negotiating and gamesmanship that is likely taking place.
Fowler has terrific offensive skills, sense and awareness. His success is contingent on his D partner and the overall awareness of the forward on his team who must be aware that he is jumping into the play, so that forward needs to drop into a defensive posture. Many of the Blues forwards have that awareness. 1 or 2 don't.

Same can be said of Parayko and Faulk, actually.

As for Dobson ... I want the Blues to close on this just so that I can post a Jurassic Park gif ... "Dobson! We have Dobson!"
Cam Fowlers success was no fluke, he just had a 48 pt season in Ana on a (bleep) team, hes an exceptional defenseman finally on a really good squad. You can bank on Fowler to again be in that 40-50 pt area providing he can play 70+ games which hes done three of the last four years. He actually averaged two fewer minutes per game in STL which is probably beneficial to him at this point in his career. Im hoping to see Fowler as the #1 PP QB with Broberg actually 2nd
40-50 points sounds about right but I wouldn't expect the same 60ish point pace. Never know though, I certainly would not expect him to exceed last year performance but he'll be good.
britishblue
Forum User
Posts: 278
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:26 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by britishblue »

I keep flip flopping on this, and i think it all comes down to Dobsons contract value.

I have always been critical of Kyrou, and absolutely think he should be moved in the right deal, but he is still an important part of the team and I am not sure Dobson is the right deal if it means a 8x10m contract.
skilles
Forum User
Posts: 1401
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:28 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by skilles »

britishblue wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:57 am I keep flip flopping on this, and i think it all comes down to Dobsons contract value.

I have always been critical of Kyrou, and absolutely think he should be moved in the right deal, but he is still an important part of the team and I am not sure Dobson is the right deal if it means a 8x10m contract.
I don't think the bidding goes that high if he demands 10 million but there is a learning curve with the cap right now so its possible.
britishblue
Forum User
Posts: 278
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:26 pm

Re: Dobson sweepstakes down to Bluejackets or Habs

Post by britishblue »

skilles wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:56 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:38 am
bud white wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:31 am
skilles wrote: 27 Jun 2025 10:15 am I certainly wouldn't count on Fowler being better, he is a good player and will probably be a good player but I think he likely experienced a change of scenery bump last year and likely won't be quite as ridiculously good.

I also wouldn't buy to much into any of the rumors right now with all the negotiating and gamesmanship that is likely taking place.
Fowler has terrific offensive skills, sense and awareness. His success is contingent on his D partner and the overall awareness of the forward on his team who must be aware that he is jumping into the play, so that forward needs to drop into a defensive posture. Many of the Blues forwards have that awareness. 1 or 2 don't.

Same can be said of Parayko and Faulk, actually.

As for Dobson ... I want the Blues to close on this just so that I can post a Jurassic Park gif ... "Dobson! We have Dobson!"
Cam Fowlers success was no fluke, he just had a 48 pt season in Ana on a (bleep) team, hes an exceptional defenseman finally on a really good squad. You can bank on Fowler to again be in that 40-50 pt area providing he can play 70+ games which hes done three of the last four years. He actually averaged two fewer minutes per game in STL which is probably beneficial to him at this point in his career. Im hoping to see Fowler as the #1 PP QB with Broberg actually 2nd
40-50 points sounds about right but I wouldn't expect the same 60ish point pace. Never know though, I certainly would not expect him to exceed last year performance but he'll be good.
Depends on his PP useage i reckon.

Regardless he is the best LHD we have had since JayBo which makes him the 2nd best LHD the Blues have had in the last 20 years.

It also helps that Broberg should continue to improve so we can actually shelter his minutes as he ages (not that he needs that).
Post Reply