The Cardinals with Kyle Tucker.

[sikeston bulldog2]

If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.

You're fixated on Tucker, Dawg. Don't be like Shady.

Not at all. Here’s the deal. We must get a bat. Period. That’s the plan. Do we settle for Herrera, or do you want to compete, and be tabbed a favorite.

The reason I’m focused on Tucker is- he’s available; he’s that game changer for THIS team, and it’s money, and like bum cakes, My man’s got them.

Any thing less is mediocre- where we currently waddle.

As for me and Shady- can’t be like him. He’s a HoF coach, I’m an old man.

[Cranny]

If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.

You're fixated on Tucker, Dawg. Don't be like Shady.

Not at all. Here’s the deal. We must get a bat. Period. That’s the plan. Do we settle for Herrera, or do you want to compete, and be tabbed a favorite.

The reason I’m focused on Tucker is- he’s available; he’s that game changer for THIS team, and it’s money, and like bum cakes, My man’s got them.

Any thing less is mediocre- where we currently waddle.

As for me and Shady- can’t be like him. He’s a HoF coach, I’m an old man.

Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to media revenue, low attendance, and a possible strike? Plus, the competition of big market teams that have gone crazy with payroll?

[rockondlouie]

If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.

You're fixated on Tucker, Dawg. Don't be like Shady.

Not at all. Here’s the deal. We must get a bat. Period. That’s the plan. Do we settle for Herrera, or do you want to compete, and be tabbed a favorite.

The reason I’m focused on Tucker is- he’s available; he’s that game changer for THIS team, and it’s money, and like bum cakes, My man’s got them.

Any thing less is mediocre- where we currently waddle.

As for me and Shady- can’t be like him. He’s a HoF coach, I’m an old man.

Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to media revenue, low attendance, and a possible strike? Plus, the competition of big market teams that have gone crazy with payroll?

Let me fix that for you toady front office footstool:

"Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to BDWJr being a cheapskates"?

[sikeston bulldog2]

If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.

You're fixated on Tucker, Dawg. Don't be like Shady.

Not at all. Here’s the deal. We must get a bat. Period. That’s the plan. Do we settle for Herrera, or do you want to compete, and be tabbed a favorite.

The reason I’m focused on Tucker is- he’s available; he’s that game changer for THIS team, and it’s money, and like bum cakes, My man’s got them.

Any thing less is mediocre- where we currently waddle.

As for me and Shady- can’t be like him. He’s a HoF coach, I’m an old man.

Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to media revenue, low attendance, and a possible strike? Plus, the competition of big market teams that have gone crazy with payroll?

You aren’t listening. We are in a reset. We have a plan to compete. It includes signing a stud pitcher. And a stud bat. One this off season or deadline, one the next.

We must go big or we will never compete at the now established levels.

I could care less if the guys name is Boog Powell. As long as he is a stud, and plays right field, we are good. Tucker just happens to fit all needs.

As for work stoppage, let’s see business goes on. As for crowds, that’s based on performance. Up the performance up the crowd. Up the revenue.

Easy.

[WLTFE]

I've been on the sign Kyle Tucker (if the Cubs don't extend him) bandwagon basically since he became a Cub. It makes a lot of sense, but I just don't see ownership going after a top FA like Tucker.

+1...DeTwit is an old man and has no interest in making a significant signing for this team...and the fans are letting them know by booing on opening day...and the drop in attendance.

[Cranny]

If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.

You're fixated on Tucker, Dawg. Don't be like Shady.

Not at all. Here’s the deal. We must get a bat. Period. That’s the plan. Do we settle for Herrera, or do you want to compete, and be tabbed a favorite.

The reason I’m focused on Tucker is- he’s available; he’s that game changer for THIS team, and it’s money, and like bum cakes, My man’s got them.

Any thing less is mediocre- where we currently waddle.

As for me and Shady- can’t be like him. He’s a HoF coach, I’m an old man.

Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to media revenue, low attendance, and a possible strike? Plus, the competition of big market teams that have gone crazy with payroll?

Let me fix that for you toady front office footstool:

"Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to BDWJr being a cheapskates"?

I'm guessing that you've never run a business, rock. Right?

Sorry, but BDW, Jr. isn't a "cheapskate" and I'm not a "toady footstool". Only in your imagination. I'm just a practical and realistic business person with decades managing a revenues/expenses budget. And BDW, Jr. is one of the best owners in baseball. Respected by his peers.

[Carp4Cy]

Good morning.

Just a signing away.
Team would trade away Walker, Matz, Mik, and Helmsley and outfield will be Tucker Scott and Burleson.

Infield Willy Donovan Winn Nado. Pages at catcher. Gorman and Herrera at DH.

Staff

Gray
Libby
Pallante
Mcg
Young gun.

Closer- maton or granillo.

That completes year two of reset.

Why would we trade all those Cardinals if Tucker will be a FA we can just sign?

[Cranny]

Good morning.

Just a signing away.
Team would trade away Walker, Matz, Mik, and Helmsley and outfield will be Tucker Scott and Burleson.

Infield Willy Donovan Winn Nado. Pages at catcher. Gorman and Herrera at DH.

Staff

Gray
Libby
Pallante
Mcg
Young gun.

Closer- maton or granillo.

That completes year two of reset.

Why would we trade all those Cardinals if Tucker will be a FA we can just sign?

Because you can't "just sign him". There will be heavy competition from the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc.

[desertrat23]

If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.

You're fixated on Tucker, Dawg. Don't be like Shady.

Not at all. Here’s the deal. We must get a bat. Period. That’s the plan. Do we settle for Herrera, or do you want to compete, and be tabbed a favorite.

The reason I’m focused on Tucker is- he’s available; he’s that game changer for THIS team, and it’s money, and like bum cakes, My man’s got them.

Any thing less is mediocre- where we currently waddle.

As for me and Shady- can’t be like him. He’s a HoF coach, I’m an old man.

Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to media revenue, low attendance, and a possible strike? Plus, the competition of big market teams that have gone crazy with payroll?

You aren’t listening. We are in a reset. We have a plan to compete. It includes signing a stud pitcher. And a stud bat. One this off season or deadline, one the next.

We must go big or we will never compete at the now established levels.

I could care less if the guys name is Boog Powell. As long as he is a stud, and plays right field, we are good. Tucker just happens to fit all needs.

As for work stoppage, let’s see business goes on. As for crowds, that’s based on performance. Up the performance up the crowd. Up the revenue.

Easy.

Boog Powell is 83 and probably doesn't have the range we're looking for, but I agree.

If the DeWitts want better attendance, they've got to show the fans that they care. Attendance is down because the fanbase as a whole just doesn't believe it or feel that excitement. Chaim Bloom and Rob Cerfolio are nice hires, but executives aren't going to move the needle in a positive fashion.

[desertrat23]

Good morning.

Just a signing away.
Team would trade away Walker, Matz, Mik, and Helmsley and outfield will be Tucker Scott and Burleson.

Infield Willy Donovan Winn Nado. Pages at catcher. Gorman and Herrera at DH.

Staff

Gray
Libby
Pallante
Mcg
Young gun.

Closer- maton or granillo.

That completes year two of reset.

Why would we trade all those Cardinals if Tucker will be a FA we can just sign?

Because you can't "just sign him". There will be heavy competition from the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc.

So why try, right?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Just a signing away.
Team would trade away Walker, Matz, Mik, and Helmsley and outfield will be Tucker Scott and Burleson.

Infield Willy Donovan Winn Nado. Pages at catcher. Gorman and Herrera at DH.

Staff

Gray
Libby
Pallante
Mcg
Young gun.

Closer- maton or granillo.

That completes year two of reset.

Why would we trade all those Cardinals if Tucker will be a FA we can just sign?

Because you can't "just sign him". There will be heavy competition from the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc.

Sure there will be. Competition.

That’s why we match them. Generalization signing. Under your model, it’s develop a Tucker. That don’t work in big business. They seize the moment.

[rockondlouie]

If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.

You're fixated on Tucker, Dawg. Don't be like Shady.

Not at all. Here’s the deal. We must get a bat. Period. That’s the plan. Do we settle for Herrera, or do you want to compete, and be tabbed a favorite.

The reason I’m focused on Tucker is- he’s available; he’s that game changer for THIS team, and it’s money, and like bum cakes, My man’s got them.

Any thing less is mediocre- where we currently waddle.

As for me and Shady- can’t be like him. He’s a HoF coach, I’m an old man.

Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to media revenue, low attendance, and a possible strike? Plus, the competition of big market teams that have gone crazy with payroll?

Let me fix that for you toady front office footstool:

"Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to BDWJr being a cheapskates"?

I'm guessing that you've never run a business, rock. Right?

Sorry, but BDW, Jr. isn't a "cheapskate" and I'm not a "toady footstool". Only in your imagination. I'm just a practical and realistic business person with decades managing a revenues/expenses budget. And BDW, Jr. is one of the best owners in baseball. Respected by his peers.

Wrong as usual, try again.

Started my company over a decade ago after years in banking/finance.

BDWJr WAS one of the best owners in MLB, he's been out of the loop for too long allowing Mo to run his franchise into the ditch.

BUT

I'm very happy to see Bill has awoken and is sending Mo packing, errrrrrrrrrrr into "retirement" (yea right ) while bringing in a fellow Yalie to hopefully get the franchise back on course.

[Cranny]

If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.

You're fixated on Tucker, Dawg. Don't be like Shady.

Not at all. Here’s the deal. We must get a bat. Period. That’s the plan. Do we settle for Herrera, or do you want to compete, and be tabbed a favorite.

The reason I’m focused on Tucker is- he’s available; he’s that game changer for THIS team, and it’s money, and like bum cakes, My man’s got them.

Any thing less is mediocre- where we currently waddle.

As for me and Shady- can’t be like him. He’s a HoF coach, I’m an old man.

Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to media revenue, low attendance, and a possible strike? Plus, the competition of big market teams that have gone crazy with payroll?

Let me fix that for you toady front office footstool:

"Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to BDWJr being a cheapskates"?

I'm guessing that you've never run a business, rock. Right?

Sorry, but BDW, Jr. isn't a "cheapskate" and I'm not a "toady footstool". Only in your imagination. I'm just a practical and realistic business person with decades managing a revenues/expenses budget. And BDW, Jr. is one of the best owners in baseball. Respected by his peers.

Wrong as usual, try again.

Started my company over a decade ago after years in banking/finance.

BDWJr WAS one of the best owners in MLB, he's been out of the loop for too long allowing Mo to run his franchise into the ditch.

BUT

I'm very happy to see Bill has awoken and is sending Mo packing, errrrrrrrrrrr into "retirement" (yea right ) while bringing in a fellow Yalie to hopefully get the franchise back on course.

Then you understand that you have to stay within your revenue envelope. Right?

[renostl]

Good morning.

Just a signing away.
Team would trade away Walker, Matz, Mik, and Helmsley and outfield will be Tucker Scott and Burleson.

Infield Willy Donovan Winn Nado. Pages at catcher. Gorman and Herrera at DH.

Staff

Gray
Libby
Pallante
Mcg
Young gun.

Closer- maton or granillo.

That completes year two of reset.

Why would we trade all those Cardinals if Tucker will be a FA we can just sign?

Because you can't "just sign him". There will be heavy competition from the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Phillies, etc.

Sure there will be. Competition.

That’s why we match them. Generalization signing. Under your model, it’s develop a Tucker. That don’t work in big business. They seize the moment.

You are spot on with the viewpoint that they should be looking to add.
They've shaved plenty of money off the books to make moves if they WANT to. They have more committed money
going. You aren't push for much here BD and it doesn't have to be Tucker, he's just a known, where trades are harder.
Who seen Devers to SF in April?

Fans should be able to expect a team to compete and also remain realistic. The team has had over $175 million
payrolls in the past with yesteryear dollars without demise. They have a significant part of the roster with minimum wage players.
IF they can't afford an add now, then is a roster with only minimum wage players and $100 million payroll the
operating budget?

Fans left when excitement about the team left. Not the other way around. They'll return when
excitement returns. Maybe not 40K+ every night, but 30K+ is.

[rockondlouie]

If we added tucker and Sandy A. What level would that put us at- Mets Phillies level, or LAD level.

Even if this was true (and I don't believe it is), that assumes those teams will not add at the deadline or in the free agency next season. That's likely not the case (especially with LAD), and when that happens, they will raising the bar even further.

I can’t help that, them raising the bar. Maybe a franchise impossible to emulate. But if I added those two, end of year, would that be enough to compete with Phillie, Mets, and Cubs.

Are we there? Possible. Sure it won’t happen, but to turn this around with a reasonable team like this year, will take moves like this. Otherwise we are stuck in stereo.

You're fixated on Tucker, Dawg. Don't be like Shady.

Not at all. Here’s the deal. We must get a bat. Period. That’s the plan. Do we settle for Herrera, or do you want to compete, and be tabbed a favorite.

The reason I’m focused on Tucker is- he’s available; he’s that game changer for THIS team, and it’s money, and like bum cakes, My man’s got them.

Any thing less is mediocre- where we currently waddle.

As for me and Shady- can’t be like him. He’s a HoF coach, I’m an old man.

Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to media revenue, low attendance, and a possible strike? Plus, the competition of big market teams that have gone crazy with payroll?

Let me fix that for you toady front office footstool:

"Why do you keep pounding on a signing that will never happen due to BDWJr being a cheapskates"?

I'm guessing that you've never run a business, rock. Right?

Sorry, but BDW, Jr. isn't a "cheapskate" and I'm not a "toady footstool". Only in your imagination. I'm just a practical and realistic business person with decades managing a revenues/expenses budget. And BDW, Jr. is one of the best owners in baseball. Respected by his peers.

Wrong as usual, try again.

Started my company over a decade ago after years in banking/finance.

BDWJr WAS one of the best owners in MLB, he's been out of the loop for too long allowing Mo to run his franchise into the ditch.

BUT

I'm very happy to see Bill has awoken and is sending Mo packing, errrrrrrrrrrr into "retirement" (yea right ) while bringing in a fellow Yalie to hopefully get the franchise back on course.

Then you understand that you have to stay within your revenue envelope. Right?

I do

But you know as well as I that the Cardinals revenue streams, circa 2025, should've had them in the $190+M payroll range, right?

We both know it takes money, to make money.

If Bill tries to get away w/another "runway" season in 2026, then he's looking at 2M in attendance.

Trust me cranny, I've held season tix for over a decade and I talk to people at the stadium all the time.

People are (upset) and want more of a commitment from BDWJr payroll wise, Mo & Oli gone.

Mo is gone at seasons end, Oli should follow.

But Bill has to give Bloom that $170+M payroll if he ever wants to see 3+m again.

[3dender]

I do

But you know as well as I that the Cardinals revenue streams, circa 2025, should've had them in the $190+M payroll range, right?

We both know it takes money, to make money.

If Bill tries to get away w/another "runway" season in 2026, then he's looking at 2M in attendance.

Trust me cranny, I've held season tix for over a decade and I talk to people at the stadium all the time.

People are (upset) and want more of a commitment from BDWJr payroll wise, Mo & Oli gone.

Mo is gone at seasons end, Oli should follow.

But Bill has to give Bloom that $170+M payroll if he ever wants to see 3+m again.

I predict we won't break the $170M for another 5 years at least, and it'll just be due to inflation. We'll stay in the 15th highest payroll range just so they can sometimes say we're in the top of half of league payrolls.