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84-game schedule part of NHL CBA talks

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Moving to an 84-game regular season from 82 is one of the topics that has been discussed in collective bargaining talks between the NHL and the NHL Players’ Association, according to a person familiar with negotiations.

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John Cocktoastin wrote: 25 Jun 2025 20:17 pm Moving to an 84-game regular season from 82 is one of the topics that has been discussed in collective bargaining talks between the NHL and the NHL Players’ Association, according to a person familiar with negotiations.

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I would be curious how that impacts how many times you play in division.
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The last time they did that, they reverted after 2 years of it. It was 84 games in the 90s the two years when Montreal and the Rangers won Cups
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There is plenty of games already. They’re just gonna create more injuries.
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seattleblue wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:02 pm The last time they did that, they reverted after 2 years of it. It was 84 games in the 90s the two years when Montreal and the Rangers won Cups
And the two extra games were neutral site games. I saw the Blues play Hartford in Peoria one year.
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I'm for anything that will help Stillman keep this team competitive.
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2forDiving wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:02 pm The last time they did that, they reverted after 2 years of it. It was 84 games in the 90s the two years when Montreal and the Rangers won Cups
And the two extra games were neutral site games. I saw the Blues play Hartford in Peoria one year.
I do wish they would do neutral site games again.
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Stlcardsblues wrote: 26 Jun 2025 01:12 am
2forDiving wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:02 pm The last time they did that, they reverted after 2 years of it. It was 84 games in the 90s the two years when Montreal and the Rangers won Cups
And the two extra games were neutral site games. I saw the Blues play Hartford in Peoria one year.
I do wish they would do neutral site games again.
Because I don't remember 93-94 in that much detail, did EVERY team have a neutral site game? Because they do still have them, they're the International Series games. My coffee hasn't kicked in yet, but didn't we play one in like Sweden or something?
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TAFKAP wrote: 26 Jun 2025 06:38 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 26 Jun 2025 01:12 am
2forDiving wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:02 pm The last time they did that, they reverted after 2 years of it. It was 84 games in the 90s the two years when Montreal and the Rangers won Cups
And the two extra games were neutral site games. I saw the Blues play Hartford in Peoria one year.
I do wish they would do neutral site games again.
Because I don't remember 93-94 in that much detail, did EVERY team have a neutral site game? Because they do still have them, they're the International Series games. My coffee hasn't kicked in yet, but didn't we play one in like Sweden or something?
Each team played neutral site games. It was a way for the NHL to hold games in locations that they were eying for potential late 90s early 2000s expansion. You might see teams playing in Denver, Houston. Peoria, Atlanta and Kansas City for example. Some of the locations would end up with expansion or relocation while others are still waiting.
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Stlcardsblues wrote: 26 Jun 2025 07:39 am
TAFKAP wrote: 26 Jun 2025 06:38 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 26 Jun 2025 01:12 am
2forDiving wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:02 pm The last time they did that, they reverted after 2 years of it. It was 84 games in the 90s the two years when Montreal and the Rangers won Cups
And the two extra games were neutral site games. I saw the Blues play Hartford in Peoria one year.
I do wish they would do neutral site games again.
Because I don't remember 93-94 in that much detail, did EVERY team have a neutral site game? Because they do still have them, they're the International Series games. My coffee hasn't kicked in yet, but didn't we play one in like Sweden or something?
Each team played neutral site games. It was a way for the NHL to hold games in locations that they were eying for potential late 90s early 2000s expansion. You might see teams playing in Denver, Houston. Peoria, Atlanta and Kansas City for example. Some of the locations would end up with expansion or relocation while others are still waiting.
if they expand, or a team relocates, Houston should be at the top of the list
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2forDiving wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:02 pm The last time they did that, they reverted after 2 years of it. It was 84 games in the 90s the two years when Montreal and the Rangers won Cups
And the two extra games were neutral site games. I saw the Blues play Hartford in Peoria one year.
I was in Peoria for that game as well. Did you go via the Blueliners group that arranged that trip? The Blues used to have a club that arranged out of town trips for fans. Not sure if they still do that or not but it was always a good time. That Peoria trip was during my season ticket holder days. Good times back then, including road trips to Chicago, Detroit and Toronto.
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The 84 game schedule would come with a reduction in preseason games. Which would probably eliminate the neutral site games to places like KC, Des Moines, Milwaukee etc.

Here’s more of the details:
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/nhl-n ... eason-ltir
Here are some pertinent details of the agreement, according to both league and union sources:

•The NHL will move to 84-game regular seasons beginning in 2026-27. The preseason will be shortened, to an expected four games per team, and players with 100-plus career games played can play in a maximum of two preseason games.

•Player contracts will be term limited to a maximum of seven years for players re-signing with their current club and six years for players on the free agent market. The 2025-26 season (next week’s free agency) will mark the final eight-year deals in the NHL.

•A comprehensive playoff salary cap mechanism, which has many machinations to account for player acquisition, will effectively close the LTIR loophole for teams to significantly pad payroll by using injury relief space.

•Signing rights to draft picks will be uniform across the board until age 22, regardless of the league prospects are picked from or which league they matriculate to next. In other words, if an 18-year-old CHL player is drafted but decided to play NCAA, a team will still hold his rights for four years.

•Outlawing of player deferred salary in contracts, which previously lowered the cap hit of deals. This is one example of significantly more stringent contractual limitations that are expected to be in the new CBA for players.

•Revenue split will remain 50/50 between owners and players. There are not expected to be changes to the definitions of what constitutes hockey related revenue (HRR).

•Significant increase in Stanley Cup playoff bonus pool fund, nearly doubling previous amount.

•Establishment of ‘full-time’ Emergency Backup Goalie (EBUG) position within organizations so that amateur goalies signed out of beer league are not entering games in rare injury circumstances.

•Landmark player benefit improvements (health insurance and post-playing health insurance stipends), plus movement of player payroll taxes and worker’s compensation premiums to be paid out of owner’s share.

•Teams will no longer be able to mandate player dress code for arriving/departing games.

•As previously announced in February, the next three seasons of the salary cap’s upper limit: $95.5 million, $104 million and $113 million.
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I'm going to assume they are looking for the 2 additional games because they'd like to expand. Personally I think expansion is a mistake and will just water down the product, but owners like those big bucks rolling in from new franchises.
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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 26 Jun 2025 08:04 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 26 Jun 2025 07:39 am
TAFKAP wrote: 26 Jun 2025 06:38 am
Stlcardsblues wrote: 26 Jun 2025 01:12 am
2forDiving wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:02 pm The last time they did that, they reverted after 2 years of it. It was 84 games in the 90s the two years when Montreal and the Rangers won Cups
And the two extra games were neutral site games. I saw the Blues play Hartford in Peoria one year.
I do wish they would do neutral site games again.
Because I don't remember 93-94 in that much detail, did EVERY team have a neutral site game? Because they do still have them, they're the International Series games. My coffee hasn't kicked in yet, but didn't we play one in like Sweden or something?
Each team played neutral site games. It was a way for the NHL to hold games in locations that they were eying for potential late 90s early 2000s expansion. You might see teams playing in Denver, Houston. Peoria, Atlanta and Kansas City for example. Some of the locations would end up with expansion or relocation while others are still waiting.
if they expand, or a team relocates, Houston should be at the top of the list
I would imagine Houston will be a front runner. The one that seems to have lost steam is Kansas City. 90’s and 00’s they were always listed as a real chance to get a team. Now they seem to be bumped to the long shot list.
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John Cocktoastin wrote: 25 Jun 2025 20:17 pm Moving to an 84-game regular season from 82 is one of the topics that has been discussed in collective bargaining talks between the NHL and the NHL Players’ Association, according to a person familiar with negotiations.

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I would way prefer this and reduce preseason games. Give the players more time in camp.
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Pierre McGuire wrote: 26 Jun 2025 08:10 am
2forDiving wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:19 pm
seattleblue wrote: 25 Jun 2025 21:02 pm The last time they did that, they reverted after 2 years of it. It was 84 games in the 90s the two years when Montreal and the Rangers won Cups
And the two extra games were neutral site games. I saw the Blues play Hartford in Peoria one year.
I was in Peoria for that game as well. Did you go via the Blueliners group that arranged that trip? The Blues used to have a club that arranged out of town trips for fans. Not sure if they still do that or not but it was always a good time. That Peoria trip was during my season ticket holder days. Good times back then, including road trips to Chicago, Detroit and Toronto.
I knew some of the people in the Blueliners back then, but we did not go in their group. We had gone to Rivermen games frequently back then, so we were familiar with the arena and area. I think we mostly went for the trips to Alexander’s Steakhouse (?) where you grilled your own steak. Great concept and good food :D
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