Attendance currently 30,000 per game - big homestand upcoming

[rockondlouie]

I had tickets with a group of people last night which included my wife, daughter and son-in-law and others and I gave my ticket to a kid that they took in my place because of the heat. My wife said it was miserable in the heat.

It was OR

I thought w/the scrubs in town even the heat wouldn't keep the crowd down.

Not sure how it looked to you on TV but I'd bet less than 20,000 actually there.

[Mort Gage]

I had tickets with a group of people last night which included my wife, daughter and son-in-law and others and I gave my ticket to a kid that they took in my place because of the heat. My wife said it was miserable in the heat.

True it was a hot one, but the overall trend has to terrify the DeWitts. Last year they averaged 35,500 announced, 2.9mm on the season. That was the first non-pandemic year since 2003 they did not reach three million. This year they are only announcing 30,000 per game. It looks close whether they will clear 2.5mm on the year.

This is on BDW. If they had a real bat(like Tucker) in OF and perhaps another top starter with a Francona/Bochy in the dugout this a different situation
As it is now this FEELS like little more than a glorified AAAA outfit

Lower stadium and BPV revenue will likely cause the DeWitts to spend less in the short run. That's why it's critically important for Bloom to succeed in revamping the development program in the minors. Develop players who generate excitement, fans will start to return, then the DeWitts could feel freer to spend more. It will take several years though.

[12xu]

Cubbie announcers were surprised by the sparse crowd tonight. Loads of empty seats as cameras panned the ballpark.

Remarked that attendance of 30,000 per game was down 10,000 per game from 2 years ago. Is that correct?

Only 27,000 announced for their archrival. We can remove kids in school and cold temps from the possible reasons. Now it looks like some combination of the fans still not believing in this year's team, and economic anxiety in a region that isn't particularly wealthy to begin with. Anyone anticipating a payroll bump in the next 2-3 years will likely be disappointed.

So 27K announced?? For the 1st place Cubbies WITH Chicago folks in town?? BDW/MO/III have royally screwed their Golden Goose into the ground. Only a big name player, big name manager, or dominate 100 win type team will fix this…..fans have checked out

Wonder why. All the other major sports seem to have little trouble filling their arena.

Not all that mysterious. NBA and NHL play in indoor arenas which do not seat anywhere near 27K. They play half the number of games MLB plays. The NFL plays 17 games per regular season.

I did think of smaller arenas. Especially hockey. Does environment have any effects.

OF course it does. NBA and NHL indoor climate controlled environment. NFL weather is usually wonderful in October and November, and 10 of 30 NFL stadiums are enclosed anyway. Yes, Green Bay is brutally cold in winter, but it's the only game in town.

[illiniriles]

Really nice win, tonight. Didn't see or listen to it. I guess Arenado made a terrific play on the 27th out. And Helsley finally won a very di8fficult 1 run save. Maybe this WILL put more fannies in the seats. All I know is Cub fans are still convinced they're going to the World Series.They ain't so bad! Keep your foot on the gas. A four game sweep would be sweet.

[Honky Tonk Man]

I had tickets with a group of people last night which included my wife, daughter and son-in-law and others and I gave my ticket to a kid that they took in my place because of the heat. My wife said it was miserable in the heat.

True it was a hot one, but the overall trend has to terrify the DeWitts. Last year they averaged 35,500 announced, 2.9mm on the season. That was the first non-pandemic year since 2003 they did not reach three million. This year they are only announcing 30,000 per game. It looks close whether they will clear 2.5mm on the year.

This is on BDW. If they had a real bat(like Tucker) in OF and perhaps another top starter with a Francona/Bochy in the dugout this a different situation
As it is now this FEELS like little more than a glorified AAAA outfit

Lower stadium and BPV revenue will likely cause the DeWitts to spend less in the short run. That's why it's critically important for Bloom to succeed in revamping the development program in the minors. Develop players who generate excitement, fans will start to return, then the DeWitts could feel freer to spend more. It will take several years though.

Thank you Mr. Obvious

[JDW]

So in 2012, went to a couple games when one of those days the actual high temp was 112 if I remember right. You'd look at the outside temp your vehicle shows and would assume it was wrong until you heard on the radio that it's instead spot on, lol.
Another was a Sunday afternoon game (girl scouts day) when our younger daughter was in girl scouts. Both were somewhat miserable, although I'm pretty acclimated to summer heat, but for most that isn't the case, and the trend looks to continue to be hotter and for more extreme weather events moving forward.
Another reason new stadium MLB construction needs to incorporate a retractable roof, with the ability to control the indoor temp reasonably, while not forgetting the World Series now includes the possibility of November baseball.

[Goldfan]

So in 2012, went to a couple games when one of those days the actual high temp was 112 if I remember right. You'd look at the outside temp your vehicle shows and would assume it was wrong until you heard on the radio that it's instead spot on, lol.
Another was a Sunday afternoon game (girl scouts day) when our younger daughter was in girl scouts. Both were somewhat miserable, although I'm pretty acclimated to summer heat, but for most that isn't the case, and the trend looks to continue to be hotter and for more extreme weather events moving forward.
Another reason new stadium MLB construction needs to incorporate a retractable roof, with the ability to control the indoor temp reasonably, while not forgetting the World Series now includes the possibility of November baseball.

And yet they managed to draw well over 3mil in 2012……it ain’t the heat. There were whole mid tier sections empty last night. Against the Cubs fighting for 1st place. SAD

[12xu]

I was fortunate enough to attend last night's remarkable 8-7 victory with free tix and parking. One of the best games I have seen live in years. Nearly 30k in paid attendance, lots of empty seats, especially in RF bleachers - where the late afternoon sun is wicked hot. I would estimate that a third of the fans were cubby fans. It is disappointing to see such small crowds, but with the heat and low expectations for the team it was predictable.

The Cardinals keep playing like this - 7-1 streak - and perhaps the attendance will rise. Keep the faith, Cardinal fans!

[JDW]

So in 2012, went to a couple games when one of those days the actual high temp was 112 if I remember right. You'd look at the outside temp your vehicle shows and would assume it was wrong until you heard on the radio that it's instead spot on, lol.
Another was a Sunday afternoon game (girl scouts day) when our younger daughter was in girl scouts. Both were somewhat miserable, although I'm pretty acclimated to summer heat, but for most that isn't the case, and the trend looks to continue to be hotter and for more extreme weather events moving forward.
Another reason new stadium MLB construction needs to incorporate a retractable roof, with the ability to control the indoor temp reasonably, while not forgetting the World Series now includes the possibility of November baseball.

And yet they managed to draw well over 3mil in 2012……it ain’t the heat. There were whole mid tier sections empty last night. Against the Cubs fighting for 1st place. SAD

Yeah, I'm surprised. Really thought the Cards would see bigtime attendance for this series.
Once you lose them, not easy to rehook, maybe kinda like fishing.
Maybe there's some worries with the economy direction, IDK.

[ScotchMIrish]

6/24 game vs Cubs. 29,000.

This is the new reality. Poor TV deal. Lower attendance. The reason we are competing this year is because we have the lowest injured payroll in MLB.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll.

[WLTFE]

6/24 game vs Cubs. 29,000.

This is the new reality. Poor TV deal. Lower attendance. The reason we are competing this year is because we have the lowest injured payroll in MLB.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll.

or is the DH!!!!!!!

[Mort Gage]

I had tickets with a group of people last night which included my wife, daughter and son-in-law and others and I gave my ticket to a kid that they took in my place because of the heat. My wife said it was miserable in the heat.

True it was a hot one, but the overall trend has to terrify the DeWitts. Last year they averaged 35,500 announced, 2.9mm on the season. That was the first non-pandemic year since 2003 they did not reach three million. This year they are only announcing 30,000 per game. It looks close whether they will clear 2.5mm on the year.

This is on BDW. If they had a real bat(like Tucker) in OF and perhaps another top starter with a Francona/Bochy in the dugout this a different situation
As it is now this FEELS like little more than a glorified AAAA outfit

Lower stadium and BPV revenue will likely cause the DeWitts to spend less in the short run. That's why it's critically important for Bloom to succeed in revamping the development program in the minors. Develop players who generate excitement, fans will start to return, then the DeWitts could feel freer to spend more. It will take several years though.

Thank you Mr. Obvious

You're welcome, Shady.

[Adam2]

I had tickets with a group of people last night which included my wife, daughter and son-in-law and others and I gave my ticket to a kid that they took in my place because of the heat. My wife said it was miserable in the heat.

True it was a hot one, but the overall trend has to terrify the DeWitts. Last year they averaged 35,500 announced, 2.9mm on the season. That was the first non-pandemic year since 2003 they did not reach three million. This year they are only announcing 30,000 per game. It looks close whether they will clear 2.5mm on the year.

This is on BDW. If they had a real bat(like Tucker) in OF and perhaps another top starter with a Francona/Bochy in the dugout this a different situation
As it is now this FEELS like little more than a glorified AAAA outfit

Lower stadium and BPV revenue will likely cause the DeWitts to spend less in the short run. That's why it's critically important for Bloom to succeed in revamping the development program in the minors. Develop players who generate excitement, fans will start to return, then the DeWitts could feel freer to spend more. It will take several years though.

Thank you Mr. Obvious

Lol, you insulting people. shocker

[Mort Gage]

I had tickets with a group of people last night which included my wife, daughter and son-in-law and others and I gave my ticket to a kid that they took in my place because of the heat. My wife said it was miserable in the heat.

True it was a hot one, but the overall trend has to terrify the DeWitts. Last year they averaged 35,500 announced, 2.9mm on the season. That was the first non-pandemic year since 2003 they did not reach three million. This year they are only announcing 30,000 per game. It looks close whether they will clear 2.5mm on the year.

This is on BDW. If they had a real bat(like Tucker) in OF and perhaps another top starter with a Francona/Bochy in the dugout this a different situation
As it is now this FEELS like little more than a glorified AAAA outfit

Lower stadium and BPV revenue will likely cause the DeWitts to spend less in the short run. That's why it's critically important for Bloom to succeed in revamping the development program in the minors. Develop players who generate excitement, fans will start to return, then the DeWitts could feel freer to spend more. It will take several years though.

Thank you Mr. Obvious

Lol, you insulting people. shocker

Shady and his sock are playing the lamest game of good cop/bad cop I've seen. Shady positions himself on the high road, claiming only to want to discuss baseball. This new sock, who just so happens to agree with Shady on every thread he starts, lobs the insults. Pathetic.

[Adam2]

I had tickets with a group of people last night which included my wife, daughter and son-in-law and others and I gave my ticket to a kid that they took in my place because of the heat. My wife said it was miserable in the heat.

True it was a hot one, but the overall trend has to terrify the DeWitts. Last year they averaged 35,500 announced, 2.9mm on the season. That was the first non-pandemic year since 2003 they did not reach three million. This year they are only announcing 30,000 per game. It looks close whether they will clear 2.5mm on the year.

This is on BDW. If they had a real bat(like Tucker) in OF and perhaps another top starter with a Francona/Bochy in the dugout this a different situation
As it is now this FEELS like little more than a glorified AAAA outfit

Lower stadium and BPV revenue will likely cause the DeWitts to spend less in the short run. That's why it's critically important for Bloom to succeed in revamping the development program in the minors. Develop players who generate excitement, fans will start to return, then the DeWitts could feel freer to spend more. It will take several years though.

Thank you Mr. Obvious

Lol, you insulting people. shocker

Shady and his sock are playing the lamest game of good cop/bad cop I've seen. Shady positions himself on the high road, claiming only to want to discuss baseball. This new sock, who just so happens to agree with Shady on every thread he starts, lobs the insults. Pathetic.

To his credit, he can log in to a computer at 80 years old. Probably better than i will be able to do at 80. I guess i'll just have to chat cards baseball with my neighbor instead of insulting strangers on the internet by that point

[Goldfan]

So in 2012, went to a couple games when one of those days the actual high temp was 112 if I remember right. You'd look at the outside temp your vehicle shows and would assume it was wrong until you heard on the radio that it's instead spot on, lol.
Another was a Sunday afternoon game (girl scouts day) when our younger daughter was in girl scouts. Both were somewhat miserable, although I'm pretty acclimated to summer heat, but for most that isn't the case, and the trend looks to continue to be hotter and for more extreme weather events moving forward.
Another reason new stadium MLB construction needs to incorporate a retractable roof, with the ability to control the indoor temp reasonably, while not forgetting the World Series now includes the possibility of November baseball.

And yet they managed to draw well over 3mil in 2012……it ain’t the heat. There were whole mid tier sections empty last night. Against the Cubs fighting for 1st place. SAD

Yeah, I'm surprised. Really thought the Cards would see bigtime attendance for this series.
Once you lose them, not easy to rehook, maybe kinda like fishing.
Maybe there's some worries with the economy direction, IDK.

People flying, taking cruises, vacationing, restaurants packed…….I don’t think its the economy. BDW/MO (upset) thousands of hard core fans AND most of those fans are the over 50 crew…..so that group isn’t going and unfortunately I don’t think under 40 crowd cares as much about baseball as us AARP card crew….good luck getting it back. The short sighted BDW cheapness might have permanently screwed his long term revenue