Edmonton Newspaper: Losing Holloway & Broberg to STL Really Hurt

[skilles]

I posted on the Oiler's Hockey Futures site if the board would feel more optimistic about the future if they had not lost Broberg and Holloway and I lost my privilege to post for asking that question.

A bit testy they may be... hmm?

I think they did answer my question with that response. I mean it was not snarky in any way. I just wanted to know.

Funny, I just saw a video on Facebook from a site called OilersNation. Some 12-yr old looking kid was talking about why the Oilers should offer sheet Hofer. In the end, it seemed his main reason was to “F#@% St. Louis”. I was going to make a comment but then thought about,your post and figured why bother. They are a cranky, irrational bunch right now so I’m not rubbing salt in the wounds.

honestly, the could DEFINITELY use Hofer.. problem is, don't think they can afford him.. not at a salary that STL wouldn't match

saw another article a week or so ago saying how the Flyers should OS him at 2.8 and that STL wouldn't match that..lol

some of these team based writers are ridiculous

If I'm the Oilers I'm 100% giving Hofer the Broberg deal if he would sign it.

[a smell of green grass]

I posted on the Oiler's Hockey Futures site if the board would feel more optimistic about the future if they had not lost Broberg and Holloway and I lost my privilege to post for asking that question.

Perfectly natural question.

[bluetunehead]

I posted on the Oiler's Hockey Futures site if the board would feel more optimistic about the future if they had not lost Broberg and Holloway and I lost my privilege to post for asking that question.

A bit testy they may be... hmm?

I think they did answer my question with that response. I mean it was not snarky in any way. I just wanted to know.

Funny, I just saw a video on Facebook from a site called OilersNation. Some 12-yr old looking kid was talking about why the Oilers should offer sheet Hofer. In the end, it seemed his main reason was to “F#@% St. Louis”. I was going to make a comment but then thought about,your post and figured why bother. They are a cranky, irrational bunch right now so I’m not rubbing salt in the wounds.

honestly, the could DEFINITELY use Hofer.. problem is, don't think they can afford him.. not at a salary that STL wouldn't match

saw another article a week or so ago saying how the Flyers should OS him at 2.8 and that STL wouldn't match that..lol

some of these team based writers are ridiculous

If I'm the Oilers I'm 100% giving Hofer the Broberg deal if he would sign it.

That would leave them with about 7.3M to sign Bouchard and 3 additional forwards. That’s not a good situation to be in. They’d have to do some cap dumping. The only really plausible options would be Kane (a very tough sell) or Walman (might not be enough on his own).

[DIAMONDINTHEROUGH]

What did Clark Kimble get banned for?

[skilles]

I posted on the Oiler's Hockey Futures site if the board would feel more optimistic about the future if they had not lost Broberg and Holloway and I lost my privilege to post for asking that question.

A bit testy they may be... hmm?

I think they did answer my question with that response. I mean it was not snarky in any way. I just wanted to know.

Funny, I just saw a video on Facebook from a site called OilersNation. Some 12-yr old looking kid was talking about why the Oilers should offer sheet Hofer. In the end, it seemed his main reason was to “F#@% St. Louis”. I was going to make a comment but then thought about,your post and figured why bother. They are a cranky, irrational bunch right now so I’m not rubbing salt in the wounds.

honestly, the could DEFINITELY use Hofer.. problem is, don't think they can afford him.. not at a salary that STL wouldn't match

saw another article a week or so ago saying how the Flyers should OS him at 2.8 and that STL wouldn't match that..lol

some of these team based writers are ridiculous

If I'm the Oilers I'm 100% giving Hofer the Broberg deal if he would sign it.

That would leave them with about 7.3M to sign Bouchard and 3 additional forwards. That’s not a good situation to be in. They’d have to do some cap dumping. The only really plausible options would be Kane (a very tough sell) or Walman (might not be enough on his own).

Yeah, I'd find a way and not just to get back at the Blues but because I think its a very good move.

[rbirules]

If I'm the Oilers I'm 100% giving Hofer the Broberg deal if he would sign it.

That would leave them with about 7.3M to sign Bouchard and 3 additional forwards. That’s not a good situation to be in. They’d have to do some cap dumping. The only really plausible options would be Kane (a very tough sell) or Walman (might not be enough on his own).

Yeah, I'd find a way and not just to get back at the Blues but because I think its a very good move.

I mean, ignoring the salary cap I think there's a lot of very good moves the Oilers could make to address their glaring hole(s), but once you factor in their salary cap situation, the fact that all their short term contracts have mNTCs if not outright NMCs, or are an albatross (Nurse) with a NMC, and that they have no attractive picks (no 1st until 2027, no second until 2026, only a 3rd, 6th, and 7th this year), and no high end prospects to entice teams to take those contracts to free up space. They are in a really tough spot. While yes their FO is "paid to figure this out" this is the same team that got them into a situation where there is a reason they lost Broberg and Holloway last summer, and it's because of the state of the team. They went all in on their 2023-2025 window and now have no future assets and a horrible cap situation, but hey, they lost to the eventual cup winner three four years in a row, including twice in the finals.

Edit: Currently they don't even have enough cap space to sign Bouchard to a long term deal, and I'm not sure they have space to sign him to a bridge deal, let alone add three forwards to fill out their roster . . . not to mention upgrading their goalie situation which is priority #2 after retaining Bouchard.

[dhsux]

What did Clark Kimble get banned for?

I don't know.

[Harry York 37]

I’ve known Clark for fifty years, and we even roomed together when we both lived in Los Angeles.
He has lived a remarkable life and and has come out on top with his incredible enthusiasm and curiosity.
I imagine it was his inability to steer clear of politics. He is passionate and 95% of the time I am on his side.
I had to walk that line this weekend at a reunion in the Cumberland Gap. My kid brother, who I love, has been on the other side since he hit it huge in the Corporate world. For the past eight years, we have both abided by what we call “The Reuniuon Rules”, which means zero politics are discussed.It has worked remarkably well and I recommend it for friends and family..

Clark is a good guy. I am glad I know him.

[skilles]

If I'm the Oilers I'm 100% giving Hofer the Broberg deal if he would sign it.

That would leave them with about 7.3M to sign Bouchard and 3 additional forwards. That’s not a good situation to be in. They’d have to do some cap dumping. The only really plausible options would be Kane (a very tough sell) or Walman (might not be enough on his own).

Yeah, I'd find a way and not just to get back at the Blues but because I think its a very good move.

I mean, ignoring the salary cap I think there's a lot of very good moves the Oilers could make to address their glaring hole(s), but once you factor in their salary cap situation, the fact that all their short term contracts have mNTCs if not outright NMCs, or are an albatross (Nurse) with a NMC, and that they have no attractive picks (no 1st until 2027, no second until 2026, only a 3rd, 6th, and 7th this year), and no high end prospects to entice teams to take those contracts to free up space. They are in a really tough spot. While yes their FO is "paid to figure this out" this is the same team that got them into a situation where there is a reason they lost Broberg and Holloway last summer, and it's because of the state of the team. They went all in on their 2023-2025 window and now have no future assets and a horrible cap situation, but hey, they lost to the eventual cup winner three four years in a row, including twice in the finals.

Edit: Currently they don't even have enough cap space to sign Bouchard to a long term deal, and I'm not sure they have space to sign him to a bridge deal, let alone add three forwards to fill out their roster . . . not to mention upgrading their goalie situation which is priority #2 after retaining Bouchard.

Probably gonna have to move someone they really don't want to move. For me goal tending she be a higher priority than Bouchard.

To your point though yes I agree its level 10 difficult if not impossible for them to make this work.

I personally think there is a good chance they lose McDavid

[rbirules]

If I'm the Oilers I'm 100% giving Hofer the Broberg deal if he would sign it.

That would leave them with about 7.3M to sign Bouchard and 3 additional forwards. That’s not a good situation to be in. They’d have to do some cap dumping. The only really plausible options would be Kane (a very tough sell) or Walman (might not be enough on his own).

Yeah, I'd find a way and not just to get back at the Blues but because I think its a very good move.

I mean, ignoring the salary cap I think there's a lot of very good moves the Oilers could make to address their glaring hole(s), but once you factor in their salary cap situation, the fact that all their short term contracts have mNTCs if not outright NMCs, or are an albatross (Nurse) with a NMC, and that they have no attractive picks (no 1st until 2027, no second until 2026, only a 3rd, 6th, and 7th this year), and no high end prospects to entice teams to take those contracts to free up space. They are in a really tough spot. While yes their FO is "paid to figure this out" this is the same team that got them into a situation where there is a reason they lost Broberg and Holloway last summer, and it's because of the state of the team. They went all in on their 2023-2025 window and now have no future assets and a horrible cap situation, but hey, they lost to the eventual cup winner three four years in a row, including twice in the finals.

Edit: Currently they don't even have enough cap space to sign Bouchard to a long term deal, and I'm not sure they have space to sign him to a bridge deal, let alone add three forwards to fill out their roster . . . not to mention upgrading their goalie situation which is priority #2 after retaining Bouchard.

Probably gonna have to move someone they really don't want to move. For me goal tending she be a higher priority than Bouchard.

To your point though yes I agree its level 10 difficult if not impossible for them to make this work.

I personally think there is a good chance they lose McDavid

Unless McDavid is just dead set on staying in Edmonton for his entire career, I honestly don't see why he would choose to stay. I think this was the last year of their "real contention window". Sure they'll still be decent next year with him and Draisaitl, but they are really getting into a cap crunch, and once they have to pay him a raise and Bouchard's kicks in they will be stuck in the same position . . . no money for a goalie or depth.

Remove McDavid from the roster, like when he becomes a FA in 12 months, and would Edmonton's roster (with a signed Bouchard) be anywhere close to the best destination for a top FA like McDavid. So many teams would be better than Edmonton if they got to add a McDavid to their roster (and I'd include the Blues in that list, not saying he'll come here but the Blues with McDavid in 12 months are probably in a better position than the Oilers with McDavid in 12 months).

They need a miracle trade or two, that allows them to dump a terrible contract on some sucker GM without giving up much to do so, to have any chance in the near future, IMO.

[dr0zombie]

If I'm the Oilers I'm 100% giving Hofer the Broberg deal if he would sign it.

That would leave them with about 7.3M to sign Bouchard and 3 additional forwards. That’s not a good situation to be in. They’d have to do some cap dumping. The only really plausible options would be Kane (a very tough sell) or Walman (might not be enough on his own).

Yeah, I'd find a way and not just to get back at the Blues but because I think its a very good move.

I mean, ignoring the salary cap I think there's a lot of very good moves the Oilers could make to address their glaring hole(s), but once you factor in their salary cap situation, the fact that all their short term contracts have mNTCs if not outright NMCs, or are an albatross (Nurse) with a NMC, and that they have no attractive picks (no 1st until 2027, no second until 2026, only a 3rd, 6th, and 7th this year), and no high end prospects to entice teams to take those contracts to free up space. They are in a really tough spot. While yes their FO is "paid to figure this out" this is the same team that got them into a situation where there is a reason they lost Broberg and Holloway last summer, and it's because of the state of the team. They went all in on their 2023-2025 window and now have no future assets and a horrible cap situation, but hey, they lost to the eventual cup winner three four years in a row, including twice in the finals.

Edit: Currently they don't even have enough cap space to sign Bouchard to a long term deal, and I'm not sure they have space to sign him to a bridge deal, let alone add three forwards to fill out their roster . . . not to mention upgrading their goalie situation which is priority #2 after retaining Bouchard.

You are spot on with the Oilers cap situation and Bouchard. People can debate if Bouchard is a product of the team or a talent all his own, but he still gets paid for the results he has shown. Even if they get someone to take Kane, or buy him out, they are still in a very tight situation.

If I was an Oilers fan I would blame that bad management move and the offer sheet for the loss. To make this insult to injury, the situation with Bouchard really shines a light on the BAD (yes all caps lol) free agent signings last year over Broberg and Holloway. Even on arbitration deals the Oilers would be in better shape. Not to mention just with a bit of expected growth from Broberg and Holloway it isn't too hard to see that team that got dominated playing more like the team that fought for seven games. Even if you just call it the results of "younger legs". The results speak for themselves. One team played to seven right up to the the wire. One team struggled in four and rolled over and gave up in six.

[skilles]

If I'm the Oilers I'm 100% giving Hofer the Broberg deal if he would sign it.

That would leave them with about 7.3M to sign Bouchard and 3 additional forwards. That’s not a good situation to be in. They’d have to do some cap dumping. The only really plausible options would be Kane (a very tough sell) or Walman (might not be enough on his own).

Yeah, I'd find a way and not just to get back at the Blues but because I think its a very good move.

I mean, ignoring the salary cap I think there's a lot of very good moves the Oilers could make to address their glaring hole(s), but once you factor in their salary cap situation, the fact that all their short term contracts have mNTCs if not outright NMCs, or are an albatross (Nurse) with a NMC, and that they have no attractive picks (no 1st until 2027, no second until 2026, only a 3rd, 6th, and 7th this year), and no high end prospects to entice teams to take those contracts to free up space. They are in a really tough spot. While yes their FO is "paid to figure this out" this is the same team that got them into a situation where there is a reason they lost Broberg and Holloway last summer, and it's because of the state of the team. They went all in on their 2023-2025 window and now have no future assets and a horrible cap situation, but hey, they lost to the eventual cup winner three four years in a row, including twice in the finals.

Edit: Currently they don't even have enough cap space to sign Bouchard to a long term deal, and I'm not sure they have space to sign him to a bridge deal, let alone add three forwards to fill out their roster . . . not to mention upgrading their goalie situation which is priority #2 after retaining Bouchard.

Probably gonna have to move someone they really don't want to move. For me goal tending she be a higher priority than Bouchard.

To your point though yes I agree its level 10 difficult if not impossible for them to make this work.

I personally think there is a good chance they lose McDavid

Unless McDavid is just dead set on staying in Edmonton for his entire career, I honestly don't see why he would choose to stay. I think this was the last year of their "real contention window". Sure they'll still be decent next year with him and Draisaitl, but they are really getting into a cap crunch, and once they have to pay him a raise and Bouchard's kicks in they will be stuck in the same position . . . no money for a goalie or depth.

Remove McDavid from the roster, like when he becomes a FA in 12 months, and would Edmonton's roster (with a signed Bouchard) be anywhere close to the best destination for a top FA like McDavid. So many teams would be better than Edmonton if they got to add a McDavid to their roster (and I'd include the Blues in that list, not saying he'll come here but the Blues with McDavid in 12 months are probably in a better position than the Oilers with McDavid in 12 months).

They need a miracle trade or two, that allows them to dump a terrible contract on some sucker GM without giving up much to do so, to have any chance in the near future, IMO.

I'm personally A little surprised they were a contender this year to be honest.

[rbirules]

If I'm the Oilers I'm 100% giving Hofer the Broberg deal if he would sign it.

That would leave them with about 7.3M to sign Bouchard and 3 additional forwards. That’s not a good situation to be in. They’d have to do some cap dumping. The only really plausible options would be Kane (a very tough sell) or Walman (might not be enough on his own).

Yeah, I'd find a way and not just to get back at the Blues but because I think its a very good move.

I mean, ignoring the salary cap I think there's a lot of very good moves the Oilers could make to address their glaring hole(s), but once you factor in their salary cap situation, the fact that all their short term contracts have mNTCs if not outright NMCs, or are an albatross (Nurse) with a NMC, and that they have no attractive picks (no 1st until 2027, no second until 2026, only a 3rd, 6th, and 7th this year), and no high end prospects to entice teams to take those contracts to free up space. They are in a really tough spot. While yes their FO is "paid to figure this out" this is the same team that got them into a situation where there is a reason they lost Broberg and Holloway last summer, and it's because of the state of the team. They went all in on their 2023-2025 window and now have no future assets and a horrible cap situation, but hey, they lost to the eventual cup winner three four years in a row, including twice in the finals.

Edit: Currently they don't even have enough cap space to sign Bouchard to a long term deal, and I'm not sure they have space to sign him to a bridge deal, let alone add three forwards to fill out their roster . . . not to mention upgrading their goalie situation which is priority #2 after retaining Bouchard.

Probably gonna have to move someone they really don't want to move. For me goal tending she be a higher priority than Bouchard.

To your point though yes I agree its level 10 difficult if not impossible for them to make this work.

I personally think there is a good chance they lose McDavid

Unless McDavid is just dead set on staying in Edmonton for his entire career, I honestly don't see why he would choose to stay. I think this was the last year of their "real contention window". Sure they'll still be decent next year with him and Draisaitl, but they are really getting into a cap crunch, and once they have to pay him a raise and Bouchard's kicks in they will be stuck in the same position . . . no money for a goalie or depth.

Remove McDavid from the roster, like when he becomes a FA in 12 months, and would Edmonton's roster (with a signed Bouchard) be anywhere close to the best destination for a top FA like McDavid. So many teams would be better than Edmonton if they got to add a McDavid to their roster (and I'd include the Blues in that list, not saying he'll come here but the Blues with McDavid in 12 months are probably in a better position than the Oilers with McDavid in 12 months).

They need a miracle trade or two, that allows them to dump a terrible contract on some sucker GM without giving up much to do so, to have any chance in the near future, IMO.

I'm personally A little surprised they were a contender this year to be honest.

Yeah, last year's team with Broberg and Holloway (at least the playoff versions) was probably better than this year's team. They could have easily lost in the first round to the Kings.