Cup Winning Centers

[TheHighHat]

Thank you for your breakdowns Seattle and Minny.

[TBone]

Yeah, not only is it not a troll posting, he's right. Bergeron and ROR were elite two-way centers in the NHL. That is why they hard matched ROR against the MacKinnon Makar unit in 2022 and expected ROR to succeed in that role and he did. They hard matched ROR against Boston's "Perfection Line" that also had Marchand on it and he succeeded. That is elite hockey. Hockey is more than points. Anyone who appreciates #27 knows that for example.

Excellent post. The inconvienent truth (for some) is there is no cup without Ryan O'Reilly.

They never won jack with Pietrangelo or Steen until ROR and Berube came and set the tone on the ice and behind the bench.

Elite hockey player, indeed.

[theograce]

Yeah, not only is it not a troll posting, he's right. Bergeron and ROR were elite two-way centers in the NHL. That is why they hard matched ROR against the MacKinnon Makar unit in 2022 and expected ROR to succeed in that role and he did. They hard matched ROR against Boston's "Perfection Line" that also had Marchand on it and he succeeded. That is elite hockey. Hockey is more than points. Anyone who appreciates #27 knows that for example.

Excellent post. The inconvienent truth (for some) is there is no cup without Ryan O'Reilly.

They never won jack with Pietrangelo or Steen until ROR and Berube came and set the tone on the ice and behind the bench.

Elite hockey player, indeed.

He was so good before stl … and after

Laughing

[theograce]

Outside of STL ROR has played 30 playoff games

18 points
-1

That’s an ouch.

Lost his legs along with his love for the game.

Booze, Copenhagen, twangin on his guyytar thinking about Tim Horton’s and ol’ trucks

[TBone]

He was so good before stl … and after

Laughing

Not my problem that you're all up in your feels over facts.

[theograce]

He was so good before stl … and after

Laughing

Not my problem that you're all up in your feels over facts.

You gloss over the facts out of pain. He’s a criminal and a liar … along with -156 over the past few years

Laughing … it’s the best.

[a smell of green grass]

Excellent research. Thanks for posting.

[Cahokanut]

R0R was only a first line center. Because of the team he played on.

I'd bet if you looked further you'd notice that most top teams throughout that period had at least three of there top five point getters under 26.

ROR was an elite center when we won the cup….elite. People who do not understand hockey only look at goals and assists, but when your center can absolutely shut down the other teams top line, that is elite. The Boston top line could not get anything going against our top line. There is a reason Florida has overwhelmed teams other top lines and that is Barkov. McDavid was completely neutralized, similarly to what ROR did to other teams top lines. To win the cup you need an elite defensive center.

Give me a break dude.
This is troll posting, if ever.
He was never elite and only a 1c on the St. Louis Blues

Who gives a [shirt]?? Really?!? He won the Stanley Cup and the Conn Smythe.

They call it the asylum for a reason. Before he got here, the Blues Talk experts labeled him "Paul Stastny 2.0". He wins a Cup, Conn Smythe, and becomes Captain, he's loved. Nobody says [shirt] until he leaves. Now he's back to being Paul. Labels mean nothing, trophies mean everything. Results matter.

I don't put much into anything here. I like reading the many different and interesting thoughts. Maybe calm down.

True. You, some others, don't care if something not true, as long as they win for your team.
That's not me. It's not right it's not fair, it's like cheating. He wasn't, and he didn't.
He did learn to be a better teammate by January of 19, was one of many reasons we got a cup, and became a well liked captain. A good guy, just never elite and only a 1c here. Nothing wrong with that, man.

[netboy65]

R0R was only a first line center. Because of the team he played on.

I'd bet if you looked further you'd notice that most top teams throughout that period had at least three of there top five point getters under 26.

ROR was an elite center when we won the cup….elite. People who do not understand hockey only look at goals and assists, but when your center can absolutely shut down the other teams top line, that is elite. The Boston top line could not get anything going against our top line. There is a reason Florida has overwhelmed teams other top lines and that is Barkov. McDavid was completely neutralized, similarly to what ROR did to other teams top lines. To win the cup you need an elite defensive center.

Give me a break dude.
This is troll posting, if ever.
He was never elite and only a 1c on the St. Louis Blues

Who gives a [shirt]?? Really?!? He won the Stanley Cup and the Conn Smythe.

They call it the asylum for a reason. Before he got here, the Blues Talk experts labeled him "Paul Stastny 2.0". He wins a Cup, Conn Smythe, and becomes Captain, he's loved. Nobody says [shirt] until he leaves. Now he's back to being Paul. Labels mean nothing, trophies mean everything. Results matter.

I don't put much into anything here. I like reading the many different and interesting thoughts. Maybe calm down.

True. You, some others, don't care if something not true, as long as they win for your team.
That's not me. It's not right it's not fair, it's like cheating. He wasn't, and he didn't.
He did learn to be a better teammate by January of 19, was one of many reasons we got a cup, and became a well liked captain. A good guy, just never elite and only a 1c here. Nothing wrong with that, man.

It began far sooner than January of 19, the whole first part of the season in fall of ‘18 he’s the only reason the Blues were even the same zip code as the rest of the league.

[seattleblue]

Yeah, not only is it not a troll posting, he's right. Bergeron and ROR were elite two-way centers in the NHL. That is why they hard matched ROR against the MacKinnon Makar unit in 2022 and expected ROR to succeed in that role and he did. They hard matched ROR against Boston's "Perfection Line" that also had Marchand on it and he succeeded. That is elite hockey. Hockey is more than points. Anyone who appreciates #27 knows that for example.

Excellent post. The inconvienent truth (for some) is there is no cup without Ryan O'Reilly.

They never won jack with Pietrangelo or Steen until ROR and Berube came and set the tone on the ice and behind the bench.

Elite hockey player, indeed.

Please don't use my post to leverage into a thing about Petro. I am aware of your body of work against Pietrangelo and let's just say I couldn't possibly disagree more with what you've said about him.

[TBone]

Please don't use my post to leverage into a thing about Petro. I am aware of your body of work against Pietrangelo and let's just say I couldn't possibly disagree more with what you've said about him.

I'm not sure what I said (or you think I said) about Pietrangelo other than the following...

- In 2019 Ryan O'Reilly set the work ethic tone (first and last on the ice), not any previous leader with the team (see Petro and Steen)
- During the 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs Parayko and Bouwmeester drew the top pair defensive assignments, not Petro.
- In the 2020 playoffs the captain acknowledged he never picked up a stick during the shutdown and the team followed his lead.
- For as big as he is, Petro isn't much of a physical presence. Any time a fight breaks out he usually ends up on the ice.

- All of the above said, letting Petro walk was Armstrong's biggest mistake. He got his ego involved and signed Krug in a fit of petulance.

If you care to debate any of these opinions, feel free. I wish we still had him, but he's not the all-time great some prop him up to be.

[seattleblue]

Please don't use my post to leverage into a thing about Petro. I am aware of your body of work against Pietrangelo and let's just say I couldn't possibly disagree more with what you've said about him.

I'm not sure what I said (or you think I said) about Pietrangelo other than the following...

- In 2019 Ryan O'Reilly set the work ethic tone (first and last on the ice), not any previous leader with the team (see Petro and Steen)
- During the 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs Parayko and Bouwmeester drew the top pair defensive assignments, not Petro.
- In the 2020 playoffs the captain acknowledged he never picked up a stick during the shutdown and the team followed his lead.
- For as big as he is, Petro isn't much of a physical presence. Any time a fight breaks out he usually ends up on the ice.

- All of the above said, letting Petro walk was Armstrong's biggest mistake. He got his ego involved and signed Krug in a fit of petulance.

If you care to debate any of these opinions, feel free. I wish we still had him, but he's not the all-time great some prop him up to be.

I could absolutely have and easily win this tired debate, but all I'm saying is I'm aware you've made memes for years to ridicule and shower disrespect onto one of the greatest players to ever wear the Blue Note. This is a player who was on the ice for 18 of the Blues 20 shots in Game 7 and who led the West's winningest regular season team in ice time for a decade and elevated every playoffs. I totally get that it's partly about a fight with a person. All of those memes were wrong though and you definitively lost the argument when he won the Cup for Vegas.

[Aesa]

Please don't use my post to leverage into a thing about Petro. I am aware of your body of work against Pietrangelo and let's just say I couldn't possibly disagree more with what you've said about him.

I'm not sure what I said (or you think I said) about Pietrangelo other than the following...

- In 2019 Ryan O'Reilly set the work ethic tone (first and last on the ice), not any previous leader with the team (see Petro and Steen)
- During the 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs Parayko and Bouwmeester drew the top pair defensive assignments, not Petro.
- In the 2020 playoffs the captain acknowledged he never picked up a stick during the shutdown and the team followed his lead.
- For as big as he is, Petro isn't much of a physical presence. Any time a fight breaks out he usually ends up on the ice.

- All of the above said, letting Petro walk was Armstrong's biggest mistake. He got his ego involved and signed Krug in a fit of petulance.

If you care to debate any of these opinions, feel free. I wish we still had him, but he's not the all-time great some prop him up to be.

I could absolutely have and easily win this tired debate, but all I'm saying is I'm aware you've made memes for years to ridicule and shower disrespect onto one of the greatest players to ever wear the Blue Note. This is a player who was on the ice for 18 of the Blues 20 shots in Game 7 and who led the West's winningest regular season team in ice time for a decade and elevated every playoffs. I totally get that it's partly about a fight with a person. All of those memes were wrong though and you definitively lost the argument when he won the Cup for Vegas.

I take umbrage with some of this post. Petro did NOT win the Cup for the Blues or Vegas. He was part of a TEAM that won the Cup. There were 22 other contributors on both TEAMS.

[seattleblue]

Please don't use my post to leverage into a thing about Petro. I am aware of your body of work against Pietrangelo and let's just say I couldn't possibly disagree more with what you've said about him.

I'm not sure what I said (or you think I said) about Pietrangelo other than the following...

- In 2019 Ryan O'Reilly set the work ethic tone (first and last on the ice), not any previous leader with the team (see Petro and Steen)
- During the 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs Parayko and Bouwmeester drew the top pair defensive assignments, not Petro.
- In the 2020 playoffs the captain acknowledged he never picked up a stick during the shutdown and the team followed his lead.
- For as big as he is, Petro isn't much of a physical presence. Any time a fight breaks out he usually ends up on the ice.

- All of the above said, letting Petro walk was Armstrong's biggest mistake. He got his ego involved and signed Krug in a fit of petulance.

If you care to debate any of these opinions, feel free. I wish we still had him, but he's not the all-time great some prop him up to be.

I could absolutely have and easily win this tired debate, but all I'm saying is I'm aware you've made memes for years to ridicule and shower disrespect onto one of the greatest players to ever wear the Blue Note. This is a player who was on the ice for 18 of the Blues 20 shots in Game 7 and who led the West's winningest regular season team in ice time for a decade and elevated every playoffs. I totally get that it's partly about a fight with a person. All of those memes were wrong though and you definitively lost the argument when he won the Cup for Vegas.

I take umbrage with some of this post. Petro did NOT win the Cup for the Blues or Vegas. He was part of a TEAM that won the Cup. There were 22 other contributors on both TEAMS.

"I'm saying I'm mad because of how I want to twist how you phrased this to suit my being mad," sure knock yourself out

[Aesa]

Please don't use my post to leverage into a thing about Petro. I am aware of your body of work against Pietrangelo and let's just say I couldn't possibly disagree more with what you've said about him.

I'm not sure what I said (or you think I said) about Pietrangelo other than the following...

- In 2019 Ryan O'Reilly set the work ethic tone (first and last on the ice), not any previous leader with the team (see Petro and Steen)
- During the 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs Parayko and Bouwmeester drew the top pair defensive assignments, not Petro.
- In the 2020 playoffs the captain acknowledged he never picked up a stick during the shutdown and the team followed his lead.
- For as big as he is, Petro isn't much of a physical presence. Any time a fight breaks out he usually ends up on the ice.

- All of the above said, letting Petro walk was Armstrong's biggest mistake. He got his ego involved and signed Krug in a fit of petulance.

If you care to debate any of these opinions, feel free. I wish we still had him, but he's not the all-time great some prop him up to be.

I could absolutely have and easily win this tired debate, but all I'm saying is I'm aware you've made memes for years to ridicule and shower disrespect onto one of the greatest players to ever wear the Blue Note. This is a player who was on the ice for 18 of the Blues 20 shots in Game 7 and who led the West's winningest regular season team in ice time for a decade and elevated every playoffs. I totally get that it's partly about a fight with a person. All of those memes were wrong though and you definitively lost the argument when he won the Cup for Vegas.

I take umbrage with some of this post. Petro did NOT win the Cup for the Blues or Vegas. He was part of a TEAM that won the Cup. There were 22 other contributors on both TEAMS.

"I'm saying I'm mad because of how I want to twist how you phrased this to suit my being mad," sure knock yourself out

Dude, I have no problem with you at all but apparently you have a problem with facts. There was no spin or snark intended in that post, just a clarification of FACT.

[theograce]

Please don't use my post to leverage into a thing about Petro. I am aware of your body of work against Pietrangelo and let's just say I couldn't possibly disagree more with what you've said about him.

I'm not sure what I said (or you think I said) about Pietrangelo other than the following...

- In 2019 Ryan O'Reilly set the work ethic tone (first and last on the ice), not any previous leader with the team (see Petro and Steen)
- During the 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs Parayko and Bouwmeester drew the top pair defensive assignments, not Petro.
- In the 2020 playoffs the captain acknowledged he never picked up a stick during the shutdown and the team followed his lead.
- For as big as he is, Petro isn't much of a physical presence. Any time a fight breaks out he usually ends up on the ice.

- All of the above said, letting Petro walk was Armstrong's biggest mistake. He got his ego involved and signed Krug in a fit of petulance.

If you care to debate any of these opinions, feel free. I wish we still had him, but he's not the all-time great some prop him up to be.

I could absolutely have and easily win this tired debate, but all I'm saying is I'm aware you've made memes for years to ridicule and shower disrespect onto one of the greatest players to ever wear the Blue Note. This is a player who was on the ice for 18 of the Blues 20 shots in Game 7 and who led the West's winningest regular season team in ice time for a decade and elevated every playoffs. I totally get that it's partly about a fight with a person. All of those memes were wrong though and you definitively lost the argument when he won the Cup for Vegas.

I take umbrage with some of this post. Petro did NOT win the Cup for the Blues or Vegas. He was part of a TEAM that won the Cup. There were 22 other contributors on both TEAMS.

"I'm saying I'm mad because of how I want to twist how you phrased this to suit my being mad," sure knock yourself out

I’m so very confused. You didn’t know that it takes a team of good players to win a cup?