What's the lineup for now?

[Shady]

Donovan, Herrera, Burleson, Contreras, Arenado first five against both RHP and LHP. Why not?

[hmoss859]

If you want 5 really slow dudes at top of order

[Shady]

If you want 5 really slow dudes at top of order

Speed is nice. But I want hitters, first priority. Is there any argument that Donovan, Herrera, Burleson and Contreras are the top four hitters on the Cardinals team, right now? I want them to have the best chance at five ABs in the game.

[cardstatman]

Past 28 days...

.319 .385 .596 .980 Gorman
.338 .373 .455 .828 Burleson
.333 .371 .455 .826 Walker
.256 .344 .439 .783 Contreras
.276 .368 .382 .749 Donovan
.250 .333 .370 .703 Herrera
.236 .266 .404 .670 Arenado
.255 .287 .333 .620 Winn
.176 .236 .353 .589 Pages
.194 .308 .224 .532 Scott
.167 .253 .238 .491 Nootbar

[Shady]

Past 28 days...

.319 .385 .596 .980 Gorman
.338 .373 .455 .828 Burleson
.333 .371 .455 .826 Walker
.256 .344 .439 .783 Contreras
.276 .368 .382 .749 Donovan
.250 .333 .370 .703 Herrera
.236 .266 .404 .670 Arenado
.255 .287 .333 .620 Winn
.176 .236 .353 .589 Pages
.194 .308 .224 .532 Scott
.167 .253 .238 .491 Nootbar

Helpful stats. Thanks. So what's your lineup? Right now, I'd be OK with Gorman 5 and Arenado 6.

[hmoss859]

Winn, Scott and Noot have stunk it up lately

[cardstatman]

Helpful stats. Thanks. So what's your lineup? Right now, I'd be OK with Gorman 5 and Arenado 6.

For the next few games...
.276 .368 .382 .749 Donovan 2B
.333 .371 .455 .826 Walker RF
.319 .385 .596 .980 Gorman DH
.256 .344 .439 .783 Contreras 1B
.338 .373 .455 .828 Burleson LF
.250 .333 .370 .703 Herrera C
.236 .266 .404 .670 Arenado 3B
.167 .253 .238 .491 Nootbar CF
.255 .287 .333 .620 Winn SS

Pages at C sometimes;
Scott in CF sometimes; Nootbar to bench, RF, or LF.

Change it as people get hot/cold. I don't mind mixing up the lineup regularly. Other than the 1st inning, it means nothing to the hitters.

[Shady]

Helpful stats. Thanks. So what's your lineup? Right now, I'd be OK with Gorman 5 and Arenado 6.

For the next few games...
.276 .368 .382 .749 Donovan 2B
.333 .371 .455 .826 Walker RF
.319 .385 .596 .980 Gorman DH
.256 .344 .439 .783 Contreras 1B
.338 .373 .455 .828 Burleson LF
.250 .333 .370 .703 Herrera C
.236 .266 .404 .670 Arenado 3B
.167 .253 .238 .491 Nootbar CF
.255 .287 .333 .620 Winn SS

Pages at C sometimes;
Scott in CF sometimes; Nootbar to bench, RF, or LF.

Change it as people get hot/cold. I don't mind mixing up the lineup regularly. Other than the 1st inning, it means nothing to the hitters.

Other than giving the early hitters in the lineup a better chance at an extra AB.

[icon]

Helpful stats. Thanks. So what's your lineup? Right now, I'd be OK with Gorman 5 and Arenado 6.

For the next few games...
.276 .368 .382 .749 Donovan 2B
.333 .371 .455 .826 Walker RF
.319 .385 .596 .980 Gorman DH
.256 .344 .439 .783 Contreras 1B
.338 .373 .455 .828 Burleson LF
.250 .333 .370 .703 Herrera C
.236 .266 .404 .670 Arenado 3B
.167 .253 .238 .491 Nootbar CF
.255 .287 .333 .620 Winn SS

Pages at C sometimes;
Scott in CF sometimes; Nootbar to bench, RF, or LF.

Change it as people get hot/cold. I don't mind mixing up the lineup regularly. Other than the 1st inning, it means nothing to the hitters.

Actually, lineups mean a lot in close games if plate appearances are not maximized for the best hitters.

[2ninr]

Putting your worst defensive lineup out there when your pitching is struggling just doesn't seem like a good idea.

[rockondlouie]

Donovan, Herrera, Burleson, Contreras, Arenado first five against both RHP and LHP. Why not?

Why did you omit Gorman, the hottest hitter on the team?

Courtesy of Bernie:

5. Nolan Gorman, warming trend. And it's also a warning to the pitchers. Among Cardinals that have 45 plate appearances since May 26, Gorman leads the team in batting average (.350), on-base percentage (.422), slugging percentage (.675), OPS (1.097), walk rate (11.1%) and wRC+. Per wRC+, Gorman is 105 percent above league average offensively since May 26.

6. Gorman a go-go, part two: Among left handed hitters in the National League that have at least 45 plate appearances since May 26, Gorman ranks 4th in batting average, 9th in on-base rate, 2nd in slugging, 5th in OPS, and 4th in wRC+. This is the proverbial small sample, but here’s my point: we were waiting for Gorman to produce after rebuilding his plate approach to have improved plate discipline. Well, he’s starting to put up numbers.

7. Gorman’s bat speed has increased. Before May 26, his average bat speed on a swing was 70.8 miles per hour. But over his last 16 games, that average bat speed has increased to 72.7 miles per hour. That’s a big difference. And we can see that in Gorman’s stronger numbers against four-seam fastballs: since May 26, Gorman is 6 for 7 (.857) with two doubles when smashing four-seam fastballs. Before May 26, Gorman was 2 for 22 with seven strikeouts against the four-seam fastballs.

8. Gorman, again: By the way, over his breakout stretch of offense since May 26, Gorman has pummeled right-handed pitchers for a .433 average and .767 slugging percentage. His totals over that time include two doubles, a triple and two homers. Gorman is taking better and more competitive at-bats against lefties.

[Honky Tonk Man]

Donovan, Herrera, Burleson, Contreras, Arenado first five against both RHP and LHP. Why not?

Why did you omit Gorman, the hottest hitter on the team?

Courtesy of Bernie:

5. Nolan Gorman, warming trend. And it's also a warning to the pitchers. Among Cardinals that have 45 plate appearances since May 26, Gorman leads the team in batting average (.350), on-base percentage (.422), slugging percentage (.675), OPS (1.097), walk rate (11.1%) and wRC+. Per wRC+, Gorman is 105 percent above league average offensively since May 26.

6. Gorman a go-go, part two: Among left handed hitters in the National League that have at least 45 plate appearances since May 26, Gorman ranks 4th in batting average, 9th in on-base rate, 2nd in slugging, 5th in OPS, and 4th in wRC+. This is the proverbial small sample, but here’s my point: we were waiting for Gorman to produce after rebuilding his plate approach to have improved plate discipline. Well, he’s starting to put up numbers.

7. Gorman’s bat speed has increased. Before May 26, his average bat speed on a swing was 70.8 miles per hour. But over his last 16 games, that average bat speed has increased to 72.7 miles per hour. That’s a big difference. And we can see that in Gorman’s stronger numbers against four-seam fastballs: since May 26, Gorman is 6 for 7 (.857) with two doubles when smashing four-seam fastballs. Before May 26, Gorman was 2 for 22 with seven strikeouts against the four-seam fastballs.

8. Gorman, again: By the way, over his breakout stretch of offense since May 26, Gorman has pummeled right-handed pitchers for a .433 average and .767 slugging percentage. His totals over that time include two doubles, a triple and two homers. Gorman is taking better and more competitive at-bats against lefties.

The only thing that will continue are the strikeouts probably end up near 33%

[Futuregm2]

Donovan, Herrera, Burleson, Contreras, Arenado first five against both RHP and LHP. Why not?

Why did you omit Gorman, the hottest hitter on the team?

Courtesy of Bernie:

5. Nolan Gorman, warming trend. And it's also a warning to the pitchers. Among Cardinals that have 45 plate appearances since May 26, Gorman leads the team in batting average (.350), on-base percentage (.422), slugging percentage (.675), OPS (1.097), walk rate (11.1%) and wRC+. Per wRC+, Gorman is 105 percent above league average offensively since May 26.

6. Gorman a go-go, part two: Among left handed hitters in the National League that have at least 45 plate appearances since May 26, Gorman ranks 4th in batting average, 9th in on-base rate, 2nd in slugging, 5th in OPS, and 4th in wRC+. This is the proverbial small sample, but here’s my point: we were waiting for Gorman to produce after rebuilding his plate approach to have improved plate discipline. Well, he’s starting to put up numbers.

7. Gorman’s bat speed has increased. Before May 26, his average bat speed on a swing was 70.8 miles per hour. But over his last 16 games, that average bat speed has increased to 72.7 miles per hour. That’s a big difference. And we can see that in Gorman’s stronger numbers against four-seam fastballs: since May 26, Gorman is 6 for 7 (.857) with two doubles when smashing four-seam fastballs. Before May 26, Gorman was 2 for 22 with seven strikeouts against the four-seam fastballs.

8. Gorman, again: By the way, over his breakout stretch of offense since May 26, Gorman has pummeled right-handed pitchers for a .433 average and .767 slugging percentage. His totals over that time include two doubles, a triple and two homers. Gorman is taking better and more competitive at-bats against lefties.

The only thing that will continue are the strikeouts probably end up near 33%

He’s not chasing like he has in years past, so we’ll see.

[Shady]

Anybody object to going with this lineup for a while vs RHP?
B Donovan LF
I Herrera C
A Burleson DH
W Contreras 1B
N Arenado 3B
N Gorman 2B
L Nootbaar RF
M Winn SS
V Scott II CF

[Futuregm2]

Anybody object to going with this lineup for a while vs RHP?
B Donovan LF
I Herrera C
A Burleson DH
W Contreras 1B
N Arenado 3B
N Gorman 2B
L Nootbaar RF
M Winn SS
V Scott II CF

Yes I am, Jordan Walker should be playing everyday. He’s got an .829 OPS over the last 30 days.

[Shady]

Anybody object to going with this lineup for a while vs RHP?
B Donovan LF
I Herrera C
A Burleson DH
W Contreras 1B
N Arenado 3B
N Gorman 2B
L Nootbaar RF
M Winn SS
V Scott II CF

Yes I am, Jordan Walker should be playing everyday. He’s got an .829 OPS over the last 30 days.

So who sits, Nootbaar?