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Strick on with Kouleas says…
Blues are very interested in Mikael Granlund and have been for a long time.
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Would really like him at something like 2 years and 5 to 6 per. Figured he's headed back to SJ though.Pierre McGuire wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 17:02 pm Blues are very interested in Mikael Granlund and have been for a long time.
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He was really hood in the playoffs. He was dangerous and played with an edge
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Why?Army's Mom wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 17:05 pmWould really like him at something like 2 years and 5 to 6 per. Figured he's headed back to SJ though.Pierre McGuire wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 17:02 pm Blues are very interested in Mikael Granlund and have been for a long time.
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Read somewhere that he's just one of those guys who love the area and the org, and seems like a good fit for what Grier is trying to build.ShakeyWalton wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 17:21 pmWhy?Army's Mom wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 17:05 pmWould really like him at something like 2 years and 5 to 6 per. Figured he's headed back to SJ though.Pierre McGuire wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 17:02 pm Blues are very interested in Mikael Granlund and have been for a long time.
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Re: Strick on with Kouleas says…
If Granlund is the target then they are thinking about Dvorsky the way I am thinking about him, which is they think he'll be a stout part of the middle in 2-3 years and before then will be building up to it. They have to be seeing the org the same way as is general consensus here: top 6 center is solving itself internally with one free agent add on.
They have to be at the ready when the right RD is available. They have time to wait to pull that trigger because Faulk should still be serviceable for a regular season.
They have to be at the ready when the right RD is available. They have time to wait to pull that trigger because Faulk should still be serviceable for a regular season.
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They need a center and Granlund is just that so I get it.Pierre McGuire wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 17:02 pm Blues are very interested in Mikael Granlund and have been for a long time.
Serviceable player and available but he's been up and down.
I guess a minus 26 is what you get in San Jose?
I hope DD is a quick study.
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I'm thinking if they pay that much for someone, that means they will probably move on from Faksa (unless he is willing to take a lot less) and move Sunny into 4C.
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Depending on what AAV/term he wants, I’d definitely be interested in Granlund. Good player. Played mostly wing for Dallas though. But definitely a quality middle-6 player. Below average on faceoffs though.
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Seems like a good player with below-average FO%, but how much do 60pt centers make nowadays? Hard to see him taking less than the $5M he was making, especially if we're looking at a short term deal. Not sure how we'll fit him in.
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Ideal would be 2×5m.
I could see them going 3×5m.
Bring Faksa back on a 2 year deal at max 2.5m per, dump Texier/Joseph.
Buch Thomas Snuggy
Holloway Schenn Kyrou
Bolduc Granlund Neighbours
Walker/Faksa/Toro/Sunny/****
**** = Texier/Joseph/Dvorsky (likely starts in Springfield) or somebody like Kaskimaki makes a push.
Pretty crowded forward group mind.
I could see them going 3×5m.
Bring Faksa back on a 2 year deal at max 2.5m per, dump Texier/Joseph.
Buch Thomas Snuggy
Holloway Schenn Kyrou
Bolduc Granlund Neighbours
Walker/Faksa/Toro/Sunny/****
**** = Texier/Joseph/Dvorsky (likely starts in Springfield) or somebody like Kaskimaki makes a push.
Pretty crowded forward group mind.
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Re: Strick on with Kouleas says…
Schneider and Mika for NYR for Buch and Faulk
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Dom from the Athletic has this take on Granlund:
Hot take: I don’t think Mikael Granlund has changed all that much from his seemingly awful 2022-23 season and his seemingly stronger work since. Yes, he’s been better, but the degree to which is likely overstated. It’s easy to be fooled by points and Granlund is a prime example of that.
What’s changed for Granlund over the last two seasons is that he’s treated defense as completely optional. That’s allowed him to bounce back to being a 60-point player, but it’s come at a tremendous cost the other way. Some might argue that was because he played for the Sharks, but his xGA/60 was actually worse in Dallas (3.61 compared to 3.24 with San Jose) this season. Granlund was never really a strong play-driver, but he was never this much of a liability either.
Given his age, Granlund’s next deal has all the makings of a regrettable one. Under the right circumstances, he can work well as an offensive force on a sheltered line. But that does make him a tough fit and a tough sell at $5 million, as AFP Analytics projects. Anything over $4 million will probably be too much.
Points can make a player rich, but when there’s no substance underneath them they can be a red herring toward actually winning games. One of Granlund’s best comps being post-Penguins Phil Kessel speaks for itself.
Hot take: I don’t think Mikael Granlund has changed all that much from his seemingly awful 2022-23 season and his seemingly stronger work since. Yes, he’s been better, but the degree to which is likely overstated. It’s easy to be fooled by points and Granlund is a prime example of that.
What’s changed for Granlund over the last two seasons is that he’s treated defense as completely optional. That’s allowed him to bounce back to being a 60-point player, but it’s come at a tremendous cost the other way. Some might argue that was because he played for the Sharks, but his xGA/60 was actually worse in Dallas (3.61 compared to 3.24 with San Jose) this season. Granlund was never really a strong play-driver, but he was never this much of a liability either.
Given his age, Granlund’s next deal has all the makings of a regrettable one. Under the right circumstances, he can work well as an offensive force on a sheltered line. But that does make him a tough fit and a tough sell at $5 million, as AFP Analytics projects. Anything over $4 million will probably be too much.
Points can make a player rich, but when there’s no substance underneath them they can be a red herring toward actually winning games. One of Granlund’s best comps being post-Penguins Phil Kessel speaks for itself.
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Re: Strick on with Kouleas says…
ummmm... no
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I assumed Granlund may be a bit out of Armys reach salary/term-wise but i would think Granlund is exactly what the Blues need to shore up the middleSTL fan in MN wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 18:18 pm Depending on what AAV/term he wants, I’d definitely be interested in Granlund. Good player. Played mostly wing for Dallas though. But definitely a quality middle-6 player. Below average on faceoffs though.