Gorman

[Braund241]

Give Gorman 400-500 AB and see what happens

He will hit 20-25 homers with a 230 average. Ton of Ks and incredibly streaky, carrying your team at times and burying your team at times. I'm not siding either way, do you want that or don't want that?

Still waiting for the "carry the team" phase. Maybe today is the start. LOL

No joke. Dude hits .216. Like Nootbar, Scott, etc. Hitting a home run one a month doesn’t make you a superstar.

[JuanAgosto]

Oli will revert to benching him as soon as he can. Then he will say it's to build confidence.

He has 5 starts in a row and 8 in June. He’s playing…

He has 5 starts because Donovan has been out.

[JuanAgosto]

Oli will revert to benching him as soon as he can. Then he will say it's to build confidence.

So negative

Sometimes the truth is negative.

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Oli will revert to benching him as soon as he can. Then he will say it's to build confidence.

So negative

Yeah, his manager sure is negative.

[govman]

Give Gorman 400-500 AB and see what happens

how many SOs

[3dender]

Give Gorman 400-500 AB and see what happens

how many SOs

You can look up his k rate and do the math... he's at a career low 28%.

[woofy25]

I am by no means an Oli fan. I think the team can do better.
But:
Yes......Gorman needs to play. But where??
If Herrera was catching- he could DH. And Herrera has clearly demonstrated he needs to be in there every day over Gorman.
Donovan is a better 2B and hitter.
Arenado is a better 3B and hitter.
Burleson is a far better hitter than Gorman.
Now Walker is back and needs to play.
Oli has his work cut out.
It’ll be interesting to see if Noot and/or Arenado is dealt at the deadline.
To summarize- they need to give Gorman AB’s to see if he can produce. Unfortunately all the above named deserve to be in the lineup.
Except for Noot.

Gorman is having a much better season than Walker. Gorman can a lot by giving just one guy a day off. He deserves 500 ABs. Too late for that but hopefully gets 400

[Honky Tonk Man]

Give Gorman 400-500 AB and see what happens

He will hit 20-25 homers with a 230 average. Ton of Ks and incredibly streaky, carrying your team at times and burying your team at times. I'm not siding either way, do you want that or don't want that?

Still waiting for the "carry the team" phase. Maybe today is the start. LOL

No joke. Dude hits .216. Like Nootbar, Scott, etc. Hitting a home run one a month doesn’t make you a superstar.

This is the reality

[DRoss]

I’m just as big of a Gorman fan as anyone but when everyone is healthy he’s not a regular starter. I do think he should start about half the games. If I had it my way Arenado would be traded and Gorman would start at 3B but this isn’t PlayStation where you can force players and other teams to accept trades.

Why must Arenado be traded at all. If he is hindering the potential progress of another player then just simply bite the bullet and release Arenado.

The Cards are going to have to pay him whether he is traded or released.

[CCard]

Give Gorman 400-500 AB and see what happens

He will hit 20-25 homers with a 230 average. Ton of Ks and incredibly streaky, carrying your team at times and burying your team at times. I'm not siding either way, do you want that or don't want that?

Still waiting for the "carry the team" phase. Maybe today is the start. LOL

No joke. Dude hits .216. Like Nootbar, Scott, etc. Hitting a home run one a month doesn’t make you a superstar.

Indeed. He has a ton of potential but is failing on the grand stage. He's failed to make adjustments that must be made to succeed in the big leagues. The strikeouts must be brought under control. He should concentrate on driving the ball to the opposite field. Do it enough and pitchers will have to come back in to him, then he could start pulling those pitches out of the park. It's not rocket science and has been around since baseball began. My other pet peeve is that it looked like Gorman was dogging it in the field and that is patently unacceptable. Maybe I'm out of bounds but I can't remember when I've seen him dive for a ball. I know he's really a 3rd baseman and range limited so I probably should cut him some slack on that. As for Noot, he's been around long enough to know what's going on, yet recently he's fallen into the pull happy trap. Pitchers notice.

[moose-and-squirrel]

Give Gorman 400-500 AB and see what happens

He will hit 20-25 homers with a 230 average. Ton of Ks and incredibly streaky, carrying your team at times and burying your team at times. I'm not siding either way, do you want that or don't want that?

Still waiting for the "carry the team" phase. Maybe today is the start. LOL

No joke. Dude hits .216. Like Nootbar, Scott, etc. Hitting a home run one a month doesn’t make you a superstar.

Indeed. He has a ton of potential but is failing on the grand stage. He's failed to make adjustments that must be made to succeed in the big leagues. The strikeouts must be brought under control. He should concentrate on driving the ball to the opposite field. Do it enough and pitchers will have to come back in to him, then he could start pulling those pitches out of the park. It's not rocket science and has been around since baseball began. My other pet peeve is that it looked like Gorman was dogging it in the field and that is patently unacceptable. Maybe I'm out of bounds but I can't remember when I've seen him dive for a ball. I know he's really a 3rd baseman and range limited so I probably should cut him some slack on that. As for Noot, he's been around long enough to know what's going on, yet recently he's fallen into the pull happy trap. Pitchers notice.

guess you missed him going into shallow RF yesterday to make an over the shoulder catch? quite impressive

[CCard]

Give Gorman 400-500 AB and see what happens

He will hit 20-25 homers with a 230 average. Ton of Ks and incredibly streaky, carrying your team at times and burying your team at times. I'm not siding either way, do you want that or don't want that?

Still waiting for the "carry the team" phase. Maybe today is the start. LOL

No joke. Dude hits .216. Like Nootbar, Scott, etc. Hitting a home run one a month doesn’t make you a superstar.

Indeed. He has a ton of potential but is failing on the grand stage. He's failed to make adjustments that must be made to succeed in the big leagues. The strikeouts must be brought under control. He should concentrate on driving the ball to the opposite field. Do it enough and pitchers will have to come back in to him, then he could start pulling those pitches out of the park. It's not rocket science and has been around since baseball began. My other pet peeve is that it looked like Gorman was dogging it in the field and that is patently unacceptable. Maybe I'm out of bounds but I can't remember when I've seen him dive for a ball. I know he's really a 3rd baseman and range limited so I probably should cut him some slack on that. As for Noot, he's been around long enough to know what's going on, yet recently he's fallen into the pull happy trap. Pitchers notice.

guess you missed him going into shallow RF yesterday to make an over the shoulder catch? quite impressive

That's great, but one exceptional play doesn't make a guy Ozzie Smith, so save it.

Nolan Gorman has a defensive rating that is considered below average, with key attributes including a fielding rating of 48, arm strength of 51, and reaction time of 53. His overall defensive performance has been a work in progress as he learns new positions.

Not my words, just the way it is. If he's not hitting then he's a liability. I really like the promise, but TON and other players had a lot of promise but couldn't hold up also. Comes a time when you have to perform.

[moose-and-squirrel]

Give Gorman 400-500 AB and see what happens

He will hit 20-25 homers with a 230 average. Ton of Ks and incredibly streaky, carrying your team at times and burying your team at times. I'm not siding either way, do you want that or don't want that?

Still waiting for the "carry the team" phase. Maybe today is the start. LOL

No joke. Dude hits .216. Like Nootbar, Scott, etc. Hitting a home run one a month doesn’t make you a superstar.

Indeed. He has a ton of potential but is failing on the grand stage. He's failed to make adjustments that must be made to succeed in the big leagues. The strikeouts must be brought under control. He should concentrate on driving the ball to the opposite field. Do it enough and pitchers will have to come back in to him, then he could start pulling those pitches out of the park. It's not rocket science and has been around since baseball began. My other pet peeve is that it looked like Gorman was dogging it in the field and that is patently unacceptable. Maybe I'm out of bounds but I can't remember when I've seen him dive for a ball. I know he's really a 3rd baseman and range limited so I probably should cut him some slack on that. As for Noot, he's been around long enough to know what's going on, yet recently he's fallen into the pull happy trap. Pitchers notice.

guess you missed him going into shallow RF yesterday to make an over the shoulder catch? quite impressive

That's great, but one exceptional play doesn't make a guy Ozzie Smith, so save it.

Nolan Gorman has a defensive rating that is considered below average, with key attributes including a fielding rating of 48, arm strength of 51, and reaction time of 53. His overall defensive performance has been a work in progress as he learns new positions.

Not my words, just the way it is. If he's not hitting then he's a liability. I really like the promise, but TON and other players had a lot of promise but couldn't hold up also. Comes a time when you have to perform.

given playing time, I'm guessing he's an adequate fielder

just needs the playing time to find out. we shall see

[rockondlouie]

Right now both Gorman and Burleson have to get PA's against both sides of the mound.

Even when Donny gets back Gorman has to stay in the lineup if this is truly a "runway" season.

We saw something Gorman and only Gorman posses in the entire organization yesterday, RAW POWER!

Let's hope Oli doesn't screw it up and platoons him.

I play both until they show they can't handle it (ala Noot right now).

[Cusecards]

I am by no means an Oli fan. I think the team can do better.
But:
Yes......Gorman needs to play. But where??
If Herrera was catching- he could DH. And Herrera has clearly demonstrated he needs to be in there every day over Gorman.
Donovan is a better 2B and hitter.
Arenado is a better 3B and hitter.
Burleson is a far better hitter than Gorman.
Now Walker is back and needs to play.
Oli has his work cut out.
It’ll be interesting to see if Noot and/or Arenado is dealt at the deadline.
To summarize- they need to give Gorman AB’s to see if he can produce. Unfortunately all the above named deserve to be in the lineup.
Except for Noot.

Gorman is having a much better season than Walker. Gorman can a lot by giving just one guy a day off. He deserves 500 ABs. Too late for that but hopefully gets 400

They do need to find out what he can do.
Interesting to see what they do at the deadline?

[scoutyjones2]

Wetherholt has yet to make a single PA in AAA, let alone MLB. Lots of "can't miss" prospects actually do miss.

Meanwhile, the supposed FO plan for this year was to once and for all find out what the organization has in Gorman and Walker. Having them ride the bench will not fulfill that goal. They have to play.

But how much patience will the midget manager have regarding this duo?

Walker has as many ABs as Pages and that's with his IL stint