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Re: Blues limited draft picks

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zamadoo wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:30 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:00 pm If there is any trade involving the 1st rounder, it would likely be to move down and acquire either a 2nd or a 3rd.

I won't rule out trying to move up, but we don't really have anything to move up with so it's not very likely.
That's what I'm thinking as a possibility.

I wonder if we could find a taker for Leddy and Faulk to recoup some 2-4th round picks.

Then maybe we sign a Jokiharju or Fabbro.
It still feels like Leddy has a negative value, even with just 1 season left. It also feels like Faulk is a negative too, not close to a 6.5M player. Although I just read that even though Faulk has a 6.5 cap hit, he is only paid 4.5M this upcoming season and only has 2 years left.

Since the Blues most likely won’t spend all the way to the cap (including Krug’s LTIR relief), if there is no replacement then Faulk at 4.5 isn’t terrible. They just need to stop throwing him out there on the PP, 5 on 6, 6 on 5, and so on!
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TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:51 pm
zamadoo wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:30 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:00 pm If there is any trade involving the 1st rounder, it would likely be to move down and acquire either a 2nd or a 3rd.

I won't rule out trying to move up, but we don't really have anything to move up with so it's not very likely.
That's what I'm thinking as a possibility.

I wonder if we could find a taker for Leddy and Faulk to recoup some 2-4th round picks.

Then maybe we sign a Jokiharju or Fabbro.
We aren't getting anything for Leddy other than maybe a lottery ticket prospect. The big thing with him would be the cap space.

Faulk, due to the limited amount of RHD might fetch something decent quite frankly since he still has 2 years left. Not anything of serious significance before everyone starts going crazy, but a mid level prospect and a 3rd rounder wouldn't be out of the question.
Looking at the summer market I was wondering about that. I think we have all said we are ready to trade Faulk. Can we really do better within our own org or FA? I feel like the team can. Just fearful we are undervaluing Faulk.
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Re: Blues limited draft picks

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dr0zombie wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:32 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:51 pm
zamadoo wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:30 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:00 pm If there is any trade involving the 1st rounder, it would likely be to move down and acquire either a 2nd or a 3rd.

I won't rule out trying to move up, but we don't really have anything to move up with so it's not very likely.
That's what I'm thinking as a possibility.

I wonder if we could find a taker for Leddy and Faulk to recoup some 2-4th round picks.

Then maybe we sign a Jokiharju or Fabbro.
We aren't getting anything for Leddy other than maybe a lottery ticket prospect. The big thing with him would be the cap space.

Faulk, due to the limited amount of RHD might fetch something decent quite frankly since he still has 2 years left. Not anything of serious significance before everyone starts going crazy, but a mid level prospect and a 3rd rounder wouldn't be out of the question.
Looking at the summer market I was wondering about that. I think we have all said we are ready to trade Faulk. Can we really do better within our own org or FA? I feel like the team can. Just fearful we are undervaluing Faulk.
Until we have signed or traded for someone, the fact is Faulk is going nowhere.
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Re: Blues limited draft picks

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TheJackBurton wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:24 am
dr0zombie wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:32 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:51 pm
zamadoo wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:30 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:00 pm If there is any trade involving the 1st rounder, it would likely be to move down and acquire either a 2nd or a 3rd.

I won't rule out trying to move up, but we don't really have anything to move up with so it's not very likely.
That's what I'm thinking as a possibility.

I wonder if we could find a taker for Leddy and Faulk to recoup some 2-4th round picks.

Then maybe we sign a Jokiharju or Fabbro.
We aren't getting anything for Leddy other than maybe a lottery ticket prospect. The big thing with him would be the cap space.

Faulk, due to the limited amount of RHD might fetch something decent quite frankly since he still has 2 years left. Not anything of serious significance before everyone starts going crazy, but a mid level prospect and a 3rd rounder wouldn't be out of the question.
Looking at the summer market I was wondering about that. I think we have all said we are ready to trade Faulk. Can we really do better within our own org or FA? I feel like the team can. Just fearful we are undervaluing Faulk.
Until we have signed or traded for someone, the fact is Faulk is going nowhere.
I believe you're correct on that, but I do think Leddy has more value than a lottery draft pick, especially if we eat some of his cap hit. However, we'd have to make that trade before/during the draft to get the picks we're missing. I just think Army should at least try to move Leddy/Faulk/Texier/Joseph to recoup some 2nd-4th round picks. With the way contracts will increase this offseason, a vet with a locked in contract might be on someone's wish list. Leddy @ $2-3M could be a bargain for someone. Faulk @ $3.5-4.5M as well.
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Re: Blues limited draft picks

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zamadoo wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:38 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:24 am
dr0zombie wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:32 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:51 pm
zamadoo wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:30 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:00 pm If there is any trade involving the 1st rounder, it would likely be to move down and acquire either a 2nd or a 3rd.

I won't rule out trying to move up, but we don't really have anything to move up with so it's not very likely.
That's what I'm thinking as a possibility.

I wonder if we could find a taker for Leddy and Faulk to recoup some 2-4th round picks.

Then maybe we sign a Jokiharju or Fabbro.
We aren't getting anything for Leddy other than maybe a lottery ticket prospect. The big thing with him would be the cap space.

Faulk, due to the limited amount of RHD might fetch something decent quite frankly since he still has 2 years left. Not anything of serious significance before everyone starts going crazy, but a mid level prospect and a 3rd rounder wouldn't be out of the question.
Looking at the summer market I was wondering about that. I think we have all said we are ready to trade Faulk. Can we really do better within our own org or FA? I feel like the team can. Just fearful we are undervaluing Faulk.
Until we have signed or traded for someone, the fact is Faulk is going nowhere.
I believe you're correct on that, but I do think Leddy has more value than a lottery draft pick, especially if we eat some of his cap hit. However, we'd have to make that trade before/during the draft to get the picks we're missing. I just think Army should at least try to move Leddy/Faulk/Texier/Joseph to recoup some 2nd-4th round picks. With the way contracts will increase this offseason, a vet with a locked in contract might be on someone's wish list. Leddy @ $2-3M could be a bargain for someone. Faulk @ $3.5-4.5M as well.
I would love to a 4th or better for Leddy, but he is in a position of very little need for most teams, only has a year left, has a 16 team no trade, and is coming off a season where he spent most of it on IL.

He just has no value really.
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Re: Blues limited draft picks

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TheJackBurton wrote: 12 Jun 2025 09:03 am
zamadoo wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:38 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:24 am
dr0zombie wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:32 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:51 pm
zamadoo wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:30 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:00 pm If there is any trade involving the 1st rounder, it would likely be to move down and acquire either a 2nd or a 3rd.

I won't rule out trying to move up, but we don't really have anything to move up with so it's not very likely.
That's what I'm thinking as a possibility.

I wonder if we could find a taker for Leddy and Faulk to recoup some 2-4th round picks.

Then maybe we sign a Jokiharju or Fabbro.
We aren't getting anything for Leddy other than maybe a lottery ticket prospect. The big thing with him would be the cap space.

Faulk, due to the limited amount of RHD might fetch something decent quite frankly since he still has 2 years left. Not anything of serious significance before everyone starts going crazy, but a mid level prospect and a 3rd rounder wouldn't be out of the question.
Looking at the summer market I was wondering about that. I think we have all said we are ready to trade Faulk. Can we really do better within our own org or FA? I feel like the team can. Just fearful we are undervaluing Faulk.
Until we have signed or traded for someone, the fact is Faulk is going nowhere.
I believe you're correct on that, but I do think Leddy has more value than a lottery draft pick, especially if we eat some of his cap hit. However, we'd have to make that trade before/during the draft to get the picks we're missing. I just think Army should at least try to move Leddy/Faulk/Texier/Joseph to recoup some 2nd-4th round picks. With the way contracts will increase this offseason, a vet with a locked in contract might be on someone's wish list. Leddy @ $2-3M could be a bargain for someone. Faulk @ $3.5-4.5M as well.
I would love to a 4th or better for Leddy, but he is in a position of very little need for most teams, only has a year left, has a 16 team no trade, and is coming off a season where he spent most of it on IL.

He just has no value really.
Hard to argue, and as much as I like to dream, it really seems like we'll be going into the season with what we've got. But, I never rule Army out of making the unexpected happen.
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zamadoo wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:38 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:24 am
dr0zombie wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:32 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:51 pm
zamadoo wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:30 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:00 pm If there is any trade involving the 1st rounder, it would likely be to move down and acquire either a 2nd or a 3rd.

I won't rule out trying to move up, but we don't really have anything to move up with so it's not very likely.
That's what I'm thinking as a possibility.

I wonder if we could find a taker for Leddy and Faulk to recoup some 2-4th round picks.

Then maybe we sign a Jokiharju or Fabbro.
We aren't getting anything for Leddy other than maybe a lottery ticket prospect. The big thing with him would be the cap space.

Faulk, due to the limited amount of RHD might fetch something decent quite frankly since he still has 2 years left. Not anything of serious significance before everyone starts going crazy, but a mid level prospect and a 3rd rounder wouldn't be out of the question.
Looking at the summer market I was wondering about that. I think we have all said we are ready to trade Faulk. Can we really do better within our own org or FA? I feel like the team can. Just fearful we are undervaluing Faulk.
Until we have signed or traded for someone, the fact is Faulk is going nowhere.
I believe you're correct on that, but I do think Leddy has more value than a lottery draft pick, especially if we eat some of his cap hit. However, we'd have to make that trade before/during the draft to get the picks we're missing. I just think Army should at least try to move Leddy/Faulk/Texier/Joseph to recoup some 2nd-4th round picks. With the way contracts will increase this offseason, a vet with a locked in contract might be on someone's wish list. Leddy @ $2-3M could be a bargain for someone. Faulk @ $3.5-4.5M as well.
Are you doing that so we can have to turn around and partake in the increased contracts? Joseph? Sure. Texier? Whatever but Faulk and Leddy? Why are you getting rid of them?

I mean sure if something comes along where we can better spend the money but otherwise why are you getting rid of them and retaining money?
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skilles wrote: 12 Jun 2025 09:17 am
zamadoo wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:38 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:24 am
dr0zombie wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:32 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:51 pm
zamadoo wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:30 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:00 pm If there is any trade involving the 1st rounder, it would likely be to move down and acquire either a 2nd or a 3rd.

I won't rule out trying to move up, but we don't really have anything to move up with so it's not very likely.
That's what I'm thinking as a possibility.

I wonder if we could find a taker for Leddy and Faulk to recoup some 2-4th round picks.

Then maybe we sign a Jokiharju or Fabbro.
We aren't getting anything for Leddy other than maybe a lottery ticket prospect. The big thing with him would be the cap space.

Faulk, due to the limited amount of RHD might fetch something decent quite frankly since he still has 2 years left. Not anything of serious significance before everyone starts going crazy, but a mid level prospect and a 3rd rounder wouldn't be out of the question.
Looking at the summer market I was wondering about that. I think we have all said we are ready to trade Faulk. Can we really do better within our own org or FA? I feel like the team can. Just fearful we are undervaluing Faulk.
Until we have signed or traded for someone, the fact is Faulk is going nowhere.
I believe you're correct on that, but I do think Leddy has more value than a lottery draft pick, especially if we eat some of his cap hit. However, we'd have to make that trade before/during the draft to get the picks we're missing. I just think Army should at least try to move Leddy/Faulk/Texier/Joseph to recoup some 2nd-4th round picks. With the way contracts will increase this offseason, a vet with a locked in contract might be on someone's wish list. Leddy @ $2-3M could be a bargain for someone. Faulk @ $3.5-4.5M as well.
Are you doing that so we can have to turn around and partake in the increased contracts? Joseph? Sure. Texier? Whatever but Faulk and Leddy? Why are you getting rid of them?

I mean sure if something comes along where we can better spend the money but otherwise why are you getting rid of them and retaining money?
As I mentioned initially, the main point would be to recoup the 2nd-4th round picks we don't have in the upcoming draft. Then we could fill their spots by signing younger guys like Jokiharju and Fabbro. Maybe the $ shakes out evenly or we gain some cap space while getting younger.
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zamadoo wrote: 12 Jun 2025 09:24 am
skilles wrote: 12 Jun 2025 09:17 am
zamadoo wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:38 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 12 Jun 2025 08:24 am
dr0zombie wrote: 11 Jun 2025 16:32 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:51 pm
zamadoo wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:30 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 14:00 pm If there is any trade involving the 1st rounder, it would likely be to move down and acquire either a 2nd or a 3rd.

I won't rule out trying to move up, but we don't really have anything to move up with so it's not very likely.
That's what I'm thinking as a possibility.

I wonder if we could find a taker for Leddy and Faulk to recoup some 2-4th round picks.

Then maybe we sign a Jokiharju or Fabbro.
We aren't getting anything for Leddy other than maybe a lottery ticket prospect. The big thing with him would be the cap space.

Faulk, due to the limited amount of RHD might fetch something decent quite frankly since he still has 2 years left. Not anything of serious significance before everyone starts going crazy, but a mid level prospect and a 3rd rounder wouldn't be out of the question.
Looking at the summer market I was wondering about that. I think we have all said we are ready to trade Faulk. Can we really do better within our own org or FA? I feel like the team can. Just fearful we are undervaluing Faulk.
Until we have signed or traded for someone, the fact is Faulk is going nowhere.
I believe you're correct on that, but I do think Leddy has more value than a lottery draft pick, especially if we eat some of his cap hit. However, we'd have to make that trade before/during the draft to get the picks we're missing. I just think Army should at least try to move Leddy/Faulk/Texier/Joseph to recoup some 2nd-4th round picks. With the way contracts will increase this offseason, a vet with a locked in contract might be on someone's wish list. Leddy @ $2-3M could be a bargain for someone. Faulk @ $3.5-4.5M as well.
Are you doing that so we can have to turn around and partake in the increased contracts? Joseph? Sure. Texier? Whatever but Faulk and Leddy? Why are you getting rid of them?

I mean sure if something comes along where we can better spend the money but otherwise why are you getting rid of them and retaining money?
As I mentioned initially, the main point would be to recoup the 2nd-4th round picks we don't have in the upcoming draft. Then we could fill their spots by signing younger guys like Jokiharju and Fabbro. Maybe the $ shakes out evenly or we gain some cap space while getting younger.
The only player doing that is maybe Faulk and we need him more than we need those picks.

I say we just trade the picks we have and skip the draft entirely this year...just joking..kind of.
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RE: trading pics this year--I would make the 3 picks in the draft this year. Promote from within. We have so many draft pics moving into the AHL in the next year or two. Keep drafting well--trust the process. Its good that we have less--after last 2 or 3 years--we have too many bodies if that is possible.
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Our General is running out of ammo, folks. Not much cap. No draft picks. Traded away the veterans with any value years ago.

Good thing Krug went on LTIR.
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Anybody see what Nashville has this year?

1 — 5 — Nashville
1 — 23 — from Tampa
1 — 26 — from Vegas (thru San Jose)
2 — 35 — Nashville
2 — 55 — from Tampa
3 — 67 — Nashville
4 — 99 — Nashville
5 — 131 — Nashville
6 — 163 — Nashville
6 — 182 — from Colorado

Minnesota, Colorado and Dallas don't have a 1st round pick...
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BalotelliMassive wrote: 12 Jun 2025 14:27 pm Anybody see what Nashville has this year?

1 — 5 — Nashville
1 — 23 — from Tampa
1 — 26 — from Vegas (thru San Jose)
2 — 35 — Nashville
2 — 55 — from Tampa
3 — 67 — Nashville
4 — 99 — Nashville
5 — 131 — Nashville
6 — 163 — Nashville
6 — 182 — from Colorado

Minnesota, Colorado and Dallas don't have a 1st round pick...
Philly has a ton of picks too.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 12 Jun 2025 13:59 pm Our General is running out of ammo, folks. Not much cap. No draft picks. Traded away the veterans with any value years ago.

Good thing Krug went on LTIR.
Go cheer for the Rangers. seriously--they have nothing.
Buch, Kyrou, Thomas, Parayko locked up.
Neighbours, Holloway, Snuggerud, Dvorsky, Bolduc all cost controlled. RFAS in future.
Broberg same situation.

Big questions are on defense--but we are ok for a year.
Ok on goalies.
As far as prospects--we have more than almost all other teams. 9 picks each of the last 2 years for God sakes. 3 is fine this year especially considering Broberg/Holloway moves.

This organization is absolutely loaded. Lots of ammo. What are you talking about bro?

I guess you just say the opposite of the truth.
Stenberg, Kaskimaki, Jecho, Mrsic, Burns, McIsaac, Dean, Pekarcik, Stacl, Jiricek, Lindstein, Buchinger, Fisher, Ralph, Kos, and Ellis
( a few more from last years in later rounds not mentioning. plus some others long in the tooth.) Thats a lot of draft capital. Lot of mortar shells, missiles, ammo, grenades, bullets. What I read from you is a lot of bull pucky. You seem to be full of shizzle. Do you troll other boards as well. Your Rangers stink btw.
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