Cards HAVE to trade Nado!

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Cards HAVE to trade Nado!

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I'm a big Nolan Arenado fan. I hope he goes into the HOF someday. But he has no place being on this team.

Make no mistake...Cards are rebuilding and any rebuild starts with youth. Winn, Scott, Herrera, Walker, Gorman, even Burly. With JW coming back sooner rather than later, this team has to give regular playing time to both Walker & Gorman....and that is so much easier with the 34 year-old and obviously declining Nado gone.

Why not talk to the Cubs? They are in desperate need of a third baseman and currently have nothing. Nado is still great defensively and may just see a resurgence playing in the friendly confines of Wrigley. And realistically, we're not catching the Cubbies this season anyway, so why not?

I don't know...it'll never happen...but it would behoove Mo & the Cardinals to do whatever is necessary to move Nado. Yes, he has a no trade...but...I'm sure he'd like a legit shot at a ring. Not happening here I don't think.
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He's one of many I would trade. Although this season has been fun to watch, they're not going to deep in the playoffs if they make it to the postseason. I'd trade Helsey, Fredde, Mikolas, and Gray. I'd also get rid of Contreras if I could and go all in with the youth movement.
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I think we have to just give him away, who’s looking for an 7th place hitter that plays good 3rd base defense. I just don’t see anybody giving anything up of worth.
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While they are at it they need to see if the catcher who can't catch and has a sizzling 730 OPS would wave his no trade clause.
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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 11 Jun 2025 07:26 am I'm a big Nolan Arenado fan. I hope he goes into the HOF someday. But he has no place being on this team.

Make no mistake...Cards are rebuilding and any rebuild starts with youth. Winn, Scott, Herrera, Walker, Gorman, even Burly. With JW coming back sooner rather than later, this team has to give regular playing time to both Walker & Gorman....and that is so much easier with the 34 year-old and obviously declining Nado gone.

Why not talk to the Cubs? They are in desperate need of a third baseman and currently have nothing. Nado is still great defensively and may just see a resurgence playing in the friendly confines of Wrigley. And realistically, we're not catching the Cubbies this season anyway, so why not?

I don't know...it'll never happen...but it would behoove Mo & the Cardinals to do whatever is necessary to move Nado. Yes, he has a no trade...but...I'm sure he'd like a legit shot at a ring. Not happening here I don't think.
If he has a late season surge they might be able to him next year but it’s not happening this year. Moe squandered enough time and resource trying to force square peg into circle hole.

He should just make his rounds and get into the short time mode. His services are no longer required. Let Chaim get full control and make moves then.
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Honky Tonk Man wrote: 11 Jun 2025 07:38 am While they are at it they need to see if the catcher who can't catch and has a sizzling 730 OPS would wave his no trade clause.
Whatever you say Marshall! That catcher is now the starting first baseman and is on pace for a 100 RBI season.

You see...unlike your boy, Burly, Contreras can actually run and hit more than just singles!

Shady...we all know this is you! At least you stopped using racist socks! No wonder Mary left you!!!
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amaram wrote: 11 Jun 2025 07:37 am I think we have to just give him away, who’s looking for an 7th place hitter that plays good 3rd base defense. I just don’t see anybody giving anything up of worth.
Of course not...we won't get much at all...but that's not the point.
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He's owed 31m for the next two seasons, outside of the money the Rockies are paying and the Cardinals deferrals. Could he get 2/31M as a free agent?
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Maybe. Not a huge deal
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It's quite the dilemma. Although it makes some sense, would Nado even waive his NTC to go to the Cubs? Idk.
I agree he needs to be traded, not only for the runway to open for Gorman, but not that far into the future, Wetherholt, a 1st round draft guy is going to get an opportunity. He's not going to be a bench player when he gets his first shot at the show.
Are the Yankees a more probable target for NA? Bundle him with Burleson and some money. I know a few on here like Burly, and understandably so, but is he much more than a tease? AB has gotten his bWAR up to +0.3, which while OK does hint it's hard for Burly to provide much overall value as a position player. Gorman also has his bWAR up to +0.3 in about a little over half the same opportunity as AB. There's no net loss subbing in Gorman into Burly's current playing time imo. Possibly instead a net positive.
The Cards would still have Wetherholt, Winn, Donovan, Gorman, Contreras, Sagesse and others to form an infield moving forward. Possibly next year Herrera can also fill in as the backup 1B. Hoping LF also becomes an option for Herrera next year. One could speculate that IF Herrera could play LF next year, the DH could open for Burly, but there's always candidates for the DH, and we don't know yet whether LF would be a good fit for IH.
Anyway, the Yankees will be going for it, and yes, their offense is very good, but there's still some holes in it. Judge currently just overshadows those holes where they're not as visible to the naked eye. Both Nado and Burly could help fill those in, especially in their home ballpark.
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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 11 Jun 2025 07:26 am I'm a big Nolan Arenado fan. I hope he goes into the HOF someday. But he has no place being on this team.

Make no mistake...Cards are rebuilding and any rebuild starts with youth. Winn, Scott, Herrera, Walker, Gorman, even Burly. With JW coming back sooner rather than later, this team has to give regular playing time to both Walker & Gorman....and that is so much easier with the 34 year-old and obviously declining Nado gone.

Why not talk to the Cubs? They are in desperate need of a third baseman and currently have nothing. Nado is still great defensively and may just see a resurgence playing in the friendly confines of Wrigley. And realistically, we're not catching the Cubbies this season anyway, so why not?

I don't know...it'll never happen...but it would behoove Mo & the Cardinals to do whatever is necessary to move Nado. Yes, he has a no trade...but...I'm sure he'd like a legit shot at a ring. Not happening here I don't think.
No, [fork] the Scrubs. Also, goNado has to approve
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Keep Nado, trade Gorman.
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riff raff wrote: 11 Jun 2025 08:11 am Keep Nado, trade Gorman.
that's the ticket
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 11 Jun 2025 07:52 am He's owed 31m for the next two seasons, outside of the money the Rockies are paying and the Cardinals deferrals. Could he get 2/31M as a free agent?
Something in that neighborhood, yes.
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Honky Tonk Man wrote: 11 Jun 2025 08:12 am
riff raff wrote: 11 Jun 2025 08:11 am Keep Nado, trade Gorman.
that's the ticket
Hi Shady. I'd rather they trade Burleson before his lack of conditioning leads to another late season collapse.
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amaram wrote: 11 Jun 2025 07:37 am I think we have to just give him away, who’s looking for an 7th place hitter that plays good 3rd base defense. I just don’t see anybody giving anything up of worth.
Super Slo Mo had N/A traded twice.
The first time, N/A refused to go to Houston.
The second time, when Mo wisely declined the Yankees offer of Stroman in return, The Yankees made a different offer and DeWitt refused to eat what I believe was around 15M for the Yankees to simply take N/A off STL's hands.
In other words, there were at least 2 known matches last offseason.
Should be even easier now.
Two reasons.
One, as others have noted, N/A is only owed an average of 15.5M the next 2 years and there will be only about 8M remaining for this season at the deadline.
Two, N/A's defense has improved compared to the prior 2 seasons and his bat has stabilized at last year's level without further decline - which gives other teams a bit more certainty as to what they would be acquiring.
Now, it would certainly be helpful if N/A could hit reasonably well over the next 30 days.
But if he simply plays as he has so far this year, a trade should be quite simple to accommodate - albeit with very limited return.
Now, there is one, shall we say, wildcard.
N/A claims to want to win a WS ring - or at least have a shot at one in the postseason - before he hangs up his cleats.
But, that clearly is not really true.
What N/A really wants is to be comfortable, to be at ease, to be free from scrutiny - while teammates carry the load of expectations and leadership.
And that just might compel him to stay right where he is at.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.
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