Two tough losses in a row but your statement is just dumb. There's a lot to like about this team.cardsfaninla wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:26 pm Wow ... heck of a team L
Embarrassing to score 9 and lose.
This team is not worth getting excited about.
GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
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There’s a guy named Granillo I would like to see called up no need to sabotage startersCarp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:29 pmHow else do you improve the pen? Nearly all elite pen arms were drafted as possible SPs.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:21 pmI hope they don’tCarp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:18 pm If Oli hadnt brought in Roycroft to blow up the game, we’d actually have a decent chance right here.
At what point do we throw in the towel on developing one of McGreevey, Roby, Hence as a SP and bring them up for bullpen help in a move to actually improve this team?
I don’t think the Memphis pen is going to improve the situation.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
I would not have pitched Roycroft but then I would never pitch him. Im not sure what Ollie did wrong other than that. He didnt pull Mikolas early enough but the pitching is thin and the schedule is brutal. Tonight he didn't have any pitchers orher than king who didnt give up runs. The pitching staff is starting to suffer from its lack of strikeouts.
Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
F Mikolas. He (censored) sux
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I'm not even going to blame Marmol for using Roycroft. I blame the putz Mo for having him on the roster. And I blame DeWitt for still having Mo around.
Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
You sure don't know the ups and downs of a baseball season..Carp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:18 pm If Oli hadnt brought in Roycroft to blow up the game, we’d actually have a decent chance right here.
At what point do we throw in the towel on developing one of McGreevey, Roby, Hence as a SP and bring them up for bullpen help in a move to actually improve this team?
Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
OK, but if he’s any good then why is Roycroft even here? We already know he’s a zero.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:32 pmThere’s a guy named Granillo I would like to see called up no need to sabotage startersCarp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:29 pmHow else do you improve the pen? Nearly all elite pen arms were drafted as possible SPs.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:21 pmI hope they don’tCarp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:18 pm If Oli hadnt brought in Roycroft to blow up the game, we’d actually have a decent chance right here.
At what point do we throw in the towel on developing one of McGreevey, Roby, Hence as a SP and bring them up for bullpen help in a move to actually improve this team?
I don’t think the Memphis pen is going to improve the situation.
Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
Nah. Guys like Helsley have ups and downs. Maybe Matan and Laheay.thetank2 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:39 pmYou sure don't know the ups and downs of a baseball season..Carp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:18 pm If Oli hadnt brought in Roycroft to blow up the game, we’d actually have a decent chance right here.
At what point do we throw in the towel on developing one of McGreevey, Roby, Hence as a SP and bring them up for bullpen help in a move to actually improve this team?
Roycroft is just a down and should never be on the roster of a winning team
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Ask mo my guess is Granillo isn’t on roster and he doesn’t want to risk losing valuable relievers like roycroft and Munoz to make room for himCarp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:39 pmOK, but if he’s any good then why is Roycroft even here? We already know he’s a zero.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:32 pmThere’s a guy named Granillo I would like to see called up no need to sabotage startersCarp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:29 pmHow else do you improve the pen? Nearly all elite pen arms were drafted as possible SPs.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:21 pmI hope they don’tCarp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:18 pm If Oli hadnt brought in Roycroft to blow up the game, we’d actually have a decent chance right here.
At what point do we throw in the towel on developing one of McGreevey, Roby, Hence as a SP and bring them up for bullpen help in a move to actually improve this team?
I don’t think the Memphis pen is going to improve the situation.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
The future of the team I find quite exciting. This year's team I do not. Minus Gray the pitching is not great. The offense is hit or miss and lacking punch. The defense is often pretty good, so that's nice. But, overall, not an exciting team. They have lots of holes. They blow leads. They fall short on comebacks.Bob Kunush wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:31 pmTwo tough losses in a row but your statement is just dumb. There's a lot to like about this team.cardsfaninla wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:26 pm Wow ... heck of a team L
Embarrassing to score 9 and lose.
This team is not worth getting excited about.
Seems a lot like the last two years. You may think it is dumb all you want. But, I try not to get too excited because I don't want to be let down again. That part of May was quite fun, but I figured they were playing way above their talent level. And, it seems to have been true.
So, I don't see much reason to get too excited about the team. It helps manage expectations and frustration. Sorry if I don't pump sunshine.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
Yeah I was looking at the Redbirds stats the other day and he has some impressive numbers!Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:32 pmThere’s a guy named Granillo I would like to see called up no need to sabotage startersCarp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:29 pmHow else do you improve the pen? Nearly all elite pen arms were drafted as possible SPs.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:21 pmI hope they don’tCarp4Cy wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:18 pm If Oli hadnt brought in Roycroft to blow up the game, we’d actually have a decent chance right here.
At what point do we throw in the towel on developing one of McGreevey, Roby, Hence as a SP and bring them up for bullpen help in a move to actually improve this team?
I don’t think the Memphis pen is going to improve the situation.
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
RoycroftJuanAgosto wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:39 pm I'm not even going to blame Marmol for using Roycroft. I blame the putz Mo for having him on the roster. And I blame DeWitt for still having Mo around.
And Vilade
And Pallante
And Mikolas
And O'Brien
I dislike Marmol as much as anyone, but we've yet to see what, if anything, he could do with a real roster.
Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
I agree about the excitement over the future.cardsfaninla wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:46 pmThe future of the team I find quite exciting. This year's team I do not. Minus Gray the pitching is not great. The offense is hit or miss and lacking punch. The defense is often pretty good, so that's nice. But, overall, not an exciting team. They have lots of holes. They blow leads. They fall short on comebacks.Bob Kunush wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:31 pmTwo tough losses in a row but your statement is just dumb. There's a lot to like about this team.cardsfaninla wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:26 pm Wow ... heck of a team L
Embarrassing to score 9 and lose.
This team is not worth getting excited about.
Seems a lot like the last two years. You may think it is dumb all you want. But, I try not to get too excited because I don't want to be let down again. That part of May was quite fun, but I figured they were playing way above their talent level. And, it seems to have been true.
So, I don't see much reason to get too excited about the team. It helps manage expectations and frustration. Sorry if I don't pump sunshine.
This season I’m just trying to be patient and not have unrealistic expectations.
Some good young guys.
Rotation needs a boost going into 2026. Hopefully some of the youngsters(McGreevy, Roby, Mathews, Hence, etc) come knocking on the door later this season??
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
Spot on.Cusecards wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:58 pmI agree about the excitement over the future.cardsfaninla wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:46 pmThe future of the team I find quite exciting. This year's team I do not. Minus Gray the pitching is not great. The offense is hit or miss and lacking punch. The defense is often pretty good, so that's nice. But, overall, not an exciting team. They have lots of holes. They blow leads. They fall short on comebacks.Bob Kunush wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:31 pmTwo tough losses in a row but your statement is just dumb. There's a lot to like about this team.cardsfaninla wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:26 pm Wow ... heck of a team L
Embarrassing to score 9 and lose.
This team is not worth getting excited about.
Seems a lot like the last two years. You may think it is dumb all you want. But, I try not to get too excited because I don't want to be let down again. That part of May was quite fun, but I figured they were playing way above their talent level. And, it seems to have been true.
So, I don't see much reason to get too excited about the team. It helps manage expectations and frustration. Sorry if I don't pump sunshine.
This season I’m just trying to be patient and not have unrealistic expectations.
Some good young guys.
Rotation needs a boost going into 2026. Hopefully some of the youngsters(McGreevy, Roby, Mathews, Hence, etc) come knocking on the door later this season??
In my younger years I had crazy high expectations. Always looking for the 162-0 season....And I was way too frustrated way too often. Now I have more reasonable expectations. If fact I often expect the worst. So now I am often happily surprised instead of often broken hearted. It works for me.
Go Cards of the future!
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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
We got a glimpse in '22. He did a good job of staying out of Albert, Goldy, and Arenado's way. But then he tried to manage Game 1 of the NLDS.sdaltons wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:56 pmRoycroftJuanAgosto wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 21:39 pm I'm not even going to blame Marmol for using Roycroft. I blame the putz Mo for having him on the roster. And I blame DeWitt for still having Mo around.
And Vilade
And Pallante
And Mikolas
And O'Brien
I dislike Marmol as much as anyone, but we've yet to see what, if anything, he could do with a real roster.

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Re: GDT : Cards vs. Blue Jays (6/10) ~ 6:45pm CDT
Lol always so funny seeing all the emotional ones come out after every loss.
"FIRE EVERYBODY!!! THEY'RE ALL LOSERS!!"
"I don't care if they just came off a month where they were the best team in all of baseball!! Or just took two of 3 from the dodgers!"
"Idc. Every loss, I must be ANGRY!!"
Ha but now that I'm done picking on the crybabies and know-it-alls, in all seriousness Helsley does need to get it together. Sucks the pitching is blowing games, starters and bullpen. Sucks they ruined both Herrera and Gorman's big at bats


"FIRE EVERYBODY!!! THEY'RE ALL LOSERS!!"
"I don't care if they just came off a month where they were the best team in all of baseball!! Or just took two of 3 from the dodgers!"
"Idc. Every loss, I must be ANGRY!!"
Ha but now that I'm done picking on the crybabies and know-it-alls, in all seriousness Helsley does need to get it together. Sucks the pitching is blowing games, starters and bullpen. Sucks they ruined both Herrera and Gorman's big at bats