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riff raff
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Re: High School

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ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:53 pm
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 09:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:36 am
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:25 am So last night watching my Tigers play they made the comment that 55% of MLB players played college ball. Except for the fact that in some cases for top prospects the bonus is too good to pass up or they actually have the chance to play at the MLB level in a year or two ( this only applies to a few players at best), I don’t know why any high schooler would skip college. Good coaching, NIL, better travel conditions, in some cases better facilities, etc.

I’m wondering if in 10 years minor league teams go away or levels such as A maybe AA are eliminated or teams reduced. Much cheaper in organizations to let college pay for the training. I would like to see colleges revert back to wood bats. Also there would have to be more flexibility in draft eligibility allowing plays to come out earlier.

Thoughts?
You don’t know why someone would postpone college to fulfill a lifelong dream? Really?
If I knew I was going to minors and could go to college I would choose college most likely.
100% of former pro ballers who initially skipped college can always go back to college.

I like those odds…
On a scholarship?
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Re: High School

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riff raff wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:56 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:53 pm
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 09:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:36 am
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:25 am So last night watching my Tigers play they made the comment that 55% of MLB players played college ball. Except for the fact that in some cases for top prospects the bonus is too good to pass up or they actually have the chance to play at the MLB level in a year or two ( this only applies to a few players at best), I don’t know why any high schooler would skip college. Good coaching, NIL, better travel conditions, in some cases better facilities, etc.

I’m wondering if in 10 years minor league teams go away or levels such as A maybe AA are eliminated or teams reduced. Much cheaper in organizations to let college pay for the training. I would like to see colleges revert back to wood bats. Also there would have to be more flexibility in draft eligibility allowing plays to come out earlier.

Thoughts?
You don’t know why someone would postpone college to fulfill a lifelong dream? Really?
If I knew I was going to minors and could go to college I would choose college most likely.
100% of former pro ballers who initially skipped college can always go back to college.

I like those odds…
On a scholarship?
Depends on the age

Local kid was drafted by the Crew iny daughters class. Million dollar signing bonus...he took the money and run. Played many years in the minors. He's doing just fine.
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Re: High School

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If I interpret this page correctly, players drafted in the 15th round got $125k. Rounds 16-20 get much less.
https://www.southernpigskin.com/recruit ... ot-values/
I doubt Div 1 NIL cash gets near that for baseball players. I can definitely see the draft being more attractive to a lot of high school graduates.

Just thinking about the numbers. There are 300 D1 baseball teams with 34 roster spots (no idea if every school fills it - I'd guess yes), meaning there are about 3,000 spots being offered annually (to both HS and Juco). MLB drafts 20 rounds x 30 teams = 600 players from HS and college (in the USA and Canada).

I'd love to see real statistics about players who choose college ball over signing with the pros? I do know that I always look up draft histories every time I look up a player, and it seems like almost always a player was drafted after high school, went to college, and was drafted again.
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Re: High School

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riff raff wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:56 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:53 pm
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 09:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:36 am
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:25 am So last night watching my Tigers play they made the comment that 55% of MLB players played college ball. Except for the fact that in some cases for top prospects the bonus is too good to pass up or they actually have the chance to play at the MLB level in a year or two ( this only applies to a few players at best), I don’t know why any high schooler would skip college. Good coaching, NIL, better travel conditions, in some cases better facilities, etc.

I’m wondering if in 10 years minor league teams go away or levels such as A maybe AA are eliminated or teams reduced. Much cheaper in organizations to let college pay for the training. I would like to see colleges revert back to wood bats. Also there would have to be more flexibility in draft eligibility allowing plays to come out earlier.

Thoughts?
You don’t know why someone would postpone college to fulfill a lifelong dream? Really?
If I knew I was going to minors and could go to college I would choose college most likely.
100% of former pro ballers who initially skipped college can always go back to college.

I like those odds…
On a scholarship?
A lot of teams include a sum of money to cover college in the contract if a kid doesn’t make it and taps out. I don’t know how long players have to make that decision but I gather it’s likely until close to their 40-man eligibility cutoff.
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Re: High School

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I think it depends on what kind of player they are. If you’re a first round talent probably not smart to college. Especially if it’s someone at the top of the draft it would make no sense for a guy like Jackson Holliday to go to college he was drafted at 18 in the majors at 20 clocks already running he will become a free agent sooner than he would have out of college
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Re: High School

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 19:00 pm
riff raff wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:56 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:53 pm
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 09:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:36 am
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:25 am So last night watching my Tigers play they made the comment that 55% of MLB players played college ball. Except for the fact that in some cases for top prospects the bonus is too good to pass up or they actually have the chance to play at the MLB level in a year or two ( this only applies to a few players at best), I don’t know why any high schooler would skip college. Good coaching, NIL, better travel conditions, in some cases better facilities, etc.

I’m wondering if in 10 years minor league teams go away or levels such as A maybe AA are eliminated or teams reduced. Much cheaper in organizations to let college pay for the training. I would like to see colleges revert back to wood bats. Also there would have to be more flexibility in draft eligibility allowing plays to come out earlier.

Thoughts?
You don’t know why someone would postpone college to fulfill a lifelong dream? Really?
If I knew I was going to minors and could go to college I would choose college most likely.
100% of former pro ballers who initially skipped college can always go back to college.

I like those odds…
On a scholarship?
Depends on the age

Local kid was drafted by the Crew iny daughters class. Million dollar signing bonus...he took the money and run. Played many years in the minors. He's doing just fine.
Did he go back to college on a scholarship?
Yeah if you get a million its a no brainer duh
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Re: High School

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I don’t understand why you would go to A or even AA vs going to a good college program but I understand everyone’s point of view.
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Re: High School

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riff raff wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:26 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 19:00 pm
riff raff wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:56 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:53 pm
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 09:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:36 am
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:25 am So last night watching my Tigers play they made the comment that 55% of MLB players played college ball. Except for the fact that in some cases for top prospects the bonus is too good to pass up or they actually have the chance to play at the MLB level in a year or two ( this only applies to a few players at best), I don’t know why any high schooler would skip college. Good coaching, NIL, better travel conditions, in some cases better facilities, etc.

I’m wondering if in 10 years minor league teams go away or levels such as A maybe AA are eliminated or teams reduced. Much cheaper in organizations to let college pay for the training. I would like to see colleges revert back to wood bats. Also there would have to be more flexibility in draft eligibility allowing plays to come out earlier.

Thoughts?
You don’t know why someone would postpone college to fulfill a lifelong dream? Really?
If I knew I was going to minors and could go to college I would choose college most likely.
100% of former pro ballers who initially skipped college can always go back to college.

I like those odds…
On a scholarship?
Depends on the age

Local kid was drafted by the Crew iny daughters class. Million dollar signing bonus...he took the money and run. Played many years in the minors. He's doing just fine.
Did he go back to college on a scholarship?
Yeah if you get a million its a no brainer duh
Yea how long would it have taken a million even if he went to college probably a long time
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Re: High School

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Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 09:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:36 am
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:25 am So last night watching my Tigers play they made the comment that 55% of MLB players played college ball. Except for the fact that in some cases for top prospects the bonus is too good to pass up or they actually have the chance to play at the MLB level in a year or two ( this only applies to a few players at best), I don’t know why any high schooler would skip college. Good coaching, NIL, better travel conditions, in some cases better facilities, etc.

I’m wondering if in 10 years minor league teams go away or levels such as A maybe AA are eliminated or teams reduced. Much cheaper in organizations to let college pay for the training. I would like to see colleges revert back to wood bats. Also there would have to be more flexibility in draft eligibility allowing plays to come out earlier.

Thoughts?
You don’t know why someone would postpone college to fulfill a lifelong dream? Really?
If I knew I was going to minors and could go to college I would choose college most likely.
Some players get million or multi-millions out of high school. They would be dumb to pass that up. They go to college and they are one serious injury away from losing a lot of money they could have had.
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Re: High School

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CardsBest wrote: 10 Jun 2025 20:40 pm
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 09:24 am
ecleme22 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:36 am
Jatalk wrote: 09 Jun 2025 08:25 am So last night watching my Tigers play they made the comment that 55% of MLB players played college ball. Except for the fact that in some cases for top prospects the bonus is too good to pass up or they actually have the chance to play at the MLB level in a year or two ( this only applies to a few players at best), I don’t know why any high schooler would skip college. Good coaching, NIL, better travel conditions, in some cases better facilities, etc.

I’m wondering if in 10 years minor league teams go away or levels such as A maybe AA are eliminated or teams reduced. Much cheaper in organizations to let college pay for the training. I would like to see colleges revert back to wood bats. Also there would have to be more flexibility in draft eligibility allowing plays to come out earlier.

Thoughts?
You don’t know why someone would postpone college to fulfill a lifelong dream? Really?
If I knew I was going to minors and could go to college I would choose college most likely.
Some players get million or multi-millions out of high school. They would be dumb to pass that up. They go to college and they are one serious injury away from losing a lot of money they could have had.
Mentioned that in my post.
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