Sam Horn

[acco40]

FWIW, Chase Daniel was an undrafted free agent. Drew Lock was taken in the second round. Brad Smith (my favorite) was a four year starter (never missed a start) after being redshirted his freshman year. Smith was drafted in the 4th round.

Blaine Gabbert was taken in the first round (10th pick) and many folks forget he left for the NFL early (after his junior season) and unusual for his time was not redshirted. He has two Super Bowl rings (as a backup). Sadly, my most lasting memory of Gabbert is the late game interception he threw against Iowa in the 2010 Insight Bowl. However, Gabbert did lead the offense to 512 yards (but "only" 24 points), 434 yards passing (41 of 57 completions including a touchdown) but threw 2 interceptions in that game. With Kendial Lawrence, Henry Josey, De'vion Moore and yes, James Franklin rushing - they only amassed 78 yards rushing on 29 attempts for an average of under 2.7 yards per carry. That'll happen with 57 pass plays in a game.

P.S. Steve Pisarkiewicz was also taken in the first round (19th pick). He was cursed by being drafted by the Cardinals and coached by old relic Bud Wilkinson.

The only issue was whether it would "detract" from Sam Horn's future success to compare him to Gabbert. At this point, I'd take a Gabbert-type career out of Horn - a 4-star recruit who's coming off Tommy John surgery, was beat out by Cook ,and has 3 completions in his college career.

If Horn came close to Gabbert, Daniel, Smith, Pisarkiewicz, Cook or heck - Mauk, Jones, Franklin, Handy, Bradley, Adler or even Bazelack - I'd be tickled pink.

[ClassicO]

FWIW, Chase Daniel was an undrafted free agent. Drew Lock was taken in the second round. Brad Smith (my favorite) was a four year starter (never missed a start) after being redshirted his freshman year. Smith was drafted in the 4th round.

Blaine Gabbert was taken in the first round (10th pick) and many folks forget he left for the NFL early (after his junior season) and unusual for his time was not redshirted. He has two Super Bowl rings (as a backup). Sadly, my most lasting memory of Gabbert is the late game interception he threw against Iowa in the 2010 Insight Bowl. However, Gabbert did lead the offense to 512 yards (but "only" 24 points), 434 yards passing (41 of 57 completions including a touchdown) but threw 2 interceptions in that game. With Kendial Lawrence, Henry Josey, De'vion Moore and yes, James Franklin rushing - they only amassed 78 yards rushing on 29 attempts for an average of under 2.7 yards per carry. That'll happen with 57 pass plays in a game.

P.S. Steve Pisarkiewicz was also taken in the first round (19th pick). He was cursed by being drafted by the Cardinals and coached by old relic Bud Wilkinson.

The only issue was whether it would "detract" from Sam Horn's future success to compare him to Gabbert. At this point, I'd take a Gabbert-type career out of Horn - a 4-star recruit who's coming off Tommy John surgery, was beat out by Cook ,and has 3 completions in his college career.

If Horn came close to Gabbert, Daniel, Smith, Pisarkiewicz, Cook or heck - Mauk, Jones, Franklin, Handy, Bradley, Adler or even Bazelack - I'd be tickled pink.

I got to see them all play as I went to MU 1973-81 and then returned to live in CoMO years later. Fun times with so many QBs, but none have been too successful in the NFL. Bradley, Jones and Franklin could run the ball. Maty had an insane HS record, breaking a lot of HS records. Chase Daniel was outstanding in multiple sports (baseball and track) and won 3 HS state TX championships. He didn't look like a top athlete, but he was.

[Barksdale's People]

Getting back to Sam Horn.

Y'all remember his HS days back in Georgia he had the great luxury of throwing to Travis Hunter, late of Colorado.

It's too much to expect the next Hunter to be hiding on the Missouri roster, but who do you expect to be the go to WR this season, regardless of who the QB is (and I personally would like Horn to make a showing).

Kevin Coleman, MSU transfer, would be my guess as WR1 this year. Marquis Johnson would be the only other player I could see leading the team and only if the deep passing game gets going again.

[jcgmoi]

Kevin Coleman, MSU transfer, would be my guess as WR1 this year.

Thanks. I saw him play against Georgia last year when he went for 100 yards but everyone was catching passes that game. Not a big guy but quick with good hands. Well-traveled, four schools in four years. I guess he'll play slot.

[winonsports]

Kevin Coleman, MSU transfer, would be my guess as WR1 this year.

Thanks. I saw him play against Georgia last year when he went for 100 yards but everyone was catching passes that game. Not a big guy but quick with good hands. Well-traveled, four schools in four years. I guess he'll play slot.

Mizzou was able to keep him to about half of that, and their QB had over 100 less yards passing total.

[acco40]

I got to see them all play as I went to MU 1973-81 and then returned to live in CoMO years later.

And I thought I was a slacker for taking five years to graduate (1974/75 to 1978/79)! I didn't decide on a major until my junior year so I graduated with a boatload of hours (150).

[knttiger]

FWIW, Chase Daniel was an undrafted free agent. Drew Lock was taken in the second round. Brad Smith (my favorite) was a four year starter (never missed a start) after being redshirted his freshman year. Smith was drafted in the 4th round.

Blaine Gabbert was taken in the first round (10th pick) and many folks forget he left for the NFL early (after his junior season) and unusual for his time was not redshirted. He has two Super Bowl rings (as a backup). Sadly, my most lasting memory of Gabbert is the late game interception he threw against Iowa in the 2010 Insight Bowl. However, Gabbert did lead the offense to 512 yards (but "only" 24 points), 434 yards passing (41 of 57 completions including a touchdown) but threw 2 interceptions in that game. With Kendial Lawrence, Henry Josey, De'vion Moore and yes, James Franklin rushing - they only amassed 78 yards rushing on 29 attempts for an average of under 2.7 yards per carry. That'll happen with 57 pass plays in a game.

P.S. Steve Pisarkiewicz was also taken in the first round (19th pick). He was cursed by being drafted by the Cardinals and coached by old relic Bud Wilkinson.

The only issue was whether it would "detract" from Sam Horn's future success to compare him to Gabbert. At this point, I'd take a Gabbert-type career out of Horn - a 4-star recruit who's coming off Tommy John surgery, was beat out by Cook ,and has 3 completions in his college career.

If Horn came close to Gabbert, Daniel, Smith, Pisarkiewicz, Cook or heck - Mauk, Jones, Franklin, Handy, Bradley, Adler or even Bazelack - I'd be tickled pink.

I got to see them all play as I went to MU 1973-81 and then returned to live in CoMO years later. Fun times with so many QBs, but none have been too successful in the NFL. Bradley, Jones and Franklin could run the ball. Maty had an insane HS record, breaking a lot of HS records. Chase Daniel was outstanding in multiple sports (baseball and track) and won 3 HS state TX championships. He didn't look like a top athlete, but he was.

Lots of people go to college for 8 years- they're called doctors.

[hdhntr148]

I got to see them all play as I went to MU 1973-81 and then returned to live in CoMO years later.

And I thought I was a slacker for taking five years to graduate (1974/75 to 1978/79)! I didn't decide on a major until my junior year so I graduated with a boatload of hours (150).

hold my beer. I started college in '68 when it was really cheap and declared a major second semester of what was my senior year. 162 hours of credit with multiple minors, usually whatever my frat bro's were taking, got great grades without studying much but it was a time where the fraternity was my family and had great summer job so I could pay my own way. finally did graduate with a history teaching certificate but of course only did student teaching and then went into a successful sales career.

major for much of time was freshman girls and fraternity. 3 of my wife's were from college

[hdhntr148]

One has to root for Sam as he has been a loyal if dinged up tiger for several years and really throws a really great spiral. But Beau has gotrdone on the field in big games against very tough competition, and makes really good decisions about when to throw, stays in pocket but when he runs is a Tough runner.

It will come down to who does the best in fall camp and hopefully especially in first game Eli gives them both on the field opportunities where they get to run the Whole offense and be in attack mode no matter the score. HATE HATE HATE it when backup comes into blowout game and only allowed to hand off the ball which accomplishes NOTHING. Then see who is best in a real game.The pud team is PAID to take a beating and Eli needs to do what's best for HIS team.

[acco40]

I got to see them all play as I went to MU 1973-81 and then returned to live in CoMO years later.

And I thought I was a slacker for taking five years to graduate (1974/75 to 1978/79)! I didn't decide on a major until my junior year so I graduated with a boatload of hours (150).

hold my beer. I started college in '68 when it was really cheap and declared a major second semester of what was my senior year. 162 hours of credit with multiple minors, usually whatever my frat bro's were taking, got great grades without studying much but it was a time where the fraternity was my family and had great summer job so I could pay my own way. finally did graduate with a history teaching certificate but of course only did student teaching and then went into a successful sales career.

major for much of time was freshman girls and fraternity. 3 of my wife's were from college

The ending of college deferments (except for divinity and medical students) in 1971 thinned out the collegiate ranks for males. This helped to accelerate female dominance in our colleges and universities so that now females constitute over 60% of students.

[Power74]

FWIW, Chase Daniel was an undrafted free agent. Drew Lock was taken in the second round. Brad Smith (my favorite) was a four year starter (never missed a start) after being redshirted his freshman year. Smith was drafted in the 4th round.

Blaine Gabbert was taken in the first round (10th pick) and many folks forget he left for the NFL early (after his junior season) and unusual for his time was not redshirted. He has two Super Bowl rings (as a backup). Sadly, my most lasting memory of Gabbert is the late game interception he threw against Iowa in the 2010 Insight Bowl. However, Gabbert did lead the offense to 512 yards (but "only" 24 points), 434 yards passing (41 of 57 completions including a touchdown) but threw 2 interceptions in that game. With Kendial Lawrence, Henry Josey, De'vion Moore and yes, James Franklin rushing - they only amassed 78 yards rushing on 29 attempts for an average of under 2.7 yards per carry. That'll happen with 57 pass plays in a game.

P.S. Steve Pisarkiewicz was also taken in the first round (19th pick). He was cursed by being drafted by the Cardinals and coached by old relic Bud Wilkinson.

The only issue was whether it would "detract" from Sam Horn's future success to compare him to Gabbert. At this point, I'd take a Gabbert-type career out of Horn - a 4-star recruit who's coming off Tommy John surgery, was beat out by Cook ,and has 3 completions in his college career.

If Horn came close to Gabbert, Daniel, Smith, Pisarkiewicz, Cook or heck - Mauk, Jones, Franklin, Handy, Bradley, Adler or even Bazelack - I'd be tickled pink.

I got to see them all play as I went to MU 1973-81 and then returned to live in CoMO years later. Fun times with so many QBs, but none have been too successful in the NFL. Bradley, Jones and Franklin could run the ball. Maty had an insane HS record, breaking a lot of HS records. Chase Daniel was outstanding in multiple sports (baseball and track) and won 3 HS state TX championships. He didn't look like a top athlete, but he was.

Lots of people go to college for 8 years- they're called doctors.

Did I hear a 'niner' in there? Were you in a walkie-talkie?

[knttiger]

Not unexpected, but Horn is participating in the MLB Draft Combine. Currently considered around the 125th rated player available, he could enter and accept a MLB contract, or return to school and re-enter after this season. Wish the best for the young man, but I'd selfishly prefer him to be the starting or back-up qb at Mizzou this season. The bench gets awfully short without him in the program.

[Kenny Boy]

Not unexpected, but Horn is participating in the MLB Draft Combine. Currently considered around the 125th rated player available, he could enter and accept a MLB contract, or return to school and re-enter after this season. Wish the best for the young man, but I'd selfishly prefer him to be the starting or back-up qb at Mizzou this season. The bench gets awfully short without him in the program.

Not sure what his NIL deal is. But with the very limited recent time spent on the mound (10 innings), I can't imagine a pro team throwing out a ton of cash at this point. I would think they would rather wait and see. Based on stats alone, his 10 innings looked like a mixed bag of success. Hopefully he thinks a college degree and some cash in the bank is a better idea.

[jcgmoi]

I didn't know there was such a thing as the MLB Draft Combine.

Clubs are trying to weigh his upside versus his lack of track record

Sure. He's a fine athlete and he reportedly works 95 and can touch 98 so they'll take a long look.

his desire to turn pro in baseball while continuing to compete for Missouri's starting quarterback job complicates matters

I'd say that signing an MLB deal could complicate matters for Missouri football too.

https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/draf ... orn-802413

[LwtnTigerZ]

Chase Daniel 13 yrs., 1,746 yards; Brad Smith 9 yrs., 976 yards; Drew Lock 5 yrs., 6,354 yards - who are the #1-#3 QBs in MU in some folks' eyes. https://www.ranker.com/list/best-missou ... e-football).

Brad Smith had a versatile 9 years in the pros, played primarily as WR and special teams. Output:
- Receiving: 104 for 987 yd. and 5 TDs
- Rushing: 134 for 973 yds. and 4 TD (lots of rushes from wildcat formation)
- Kickoff Returns: 112, with 4 TDs
- Passing: 4-10 for 51 Yds. and 1 TD (I found this low count surprising)
- Special Teams: 82 tackles